[time-nuts] Advantest U3641 problem

2015-01-16 Thread Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX
My Advantest spectrum analyzer now comes up with an error 900 complaining about no PLL lock. This would appear to be a fault on the PLL board but the brain damaged Advantest service manual has no schematics for the boards. Any suggestions other than don't buy anything from Advantest? --

Re: [time-nuts] L1 and L2 frequencies

2015-01-16 Thread Magnus Danielson
Björn, On 01/16/2015 12:01 AM, Björn Gabrielsson wrote: Magnus, I naturally meant with a reasonable price-tag, sorry for being sloppy on that detail, and I do know that there is vendors for those signals. If we had dual or triple frequency receivers below 500 USD things would start to be

Re: [time-nuts] Advantest U3641 problem

2015-01-16 Thread Bob Camp
Hi Usually (but not always) these are VCO drift issues. If you can spot a tuning adjust on that board you are lucky. A lot of this stuff is now done “no adjust” boards. They just swap out the board … Bob On Jan 16, 2015, at 12:27 AM, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX c...@omen.com wrote: My

Re: [time-nuts] L1 and L2 frequencies

2015-01-16 Thread Li Ang
Hi I have a question about the GPS antenna. Since the GPS signal strength on the ground is about 20db lower than the thermal noise, does the gain of antenna matter? 2015-01-16 7:01 GMT+08:00 Björn Gabrielsson b...@lysator.liu.se: Magnus, If civilian receivers where to implement L2C and L5

Re: [time-nuts] L1 and L2 frequencies

2015-01-16 Thread Jim Lux
On 1/16/15 4:58 AM, Li Ang wrote: Hi I have a question about the GPS antenna. Since the GPS signal strength on the ground is about 20db lower than the thermal noise, does the gain of antenna matter? Not a whole lot.. Obviously, you don't want something -10dBi, and there is a direct effect

Re: [time-nuts] Advantest U3641 problem

2015-01-16 Thread paul swed
Chuck if its not a totally integrated PLL board then you might reverse engineer it and go from there. As Bob says thats harder and harder to do because adjustments are done in software and theres a big black chip with no clue these days. Technically speaking WAS (we are screwed). :-) Or in a

Re: [time-nuts] L1 and L2 frequencies

2015-01-16 Thread Magnus Danielson
Hi, Well, if you can avoid reception from ground you avoid both handling reflexes as well as the thermal noise (300K vs. 3K). You can't have higher antenna gain, since you want to receive fairly omni-directional above the horizon, with maybe the first 5-10 degrees nulled out. What however

Re: [time-nuts] Advantest U3641 problem

2015-01-16 Thread Magnus Danielson
Hi, Well, there can be steerable pots, DACs, DDSes and other similar settings, but it may need the control which has not been left for either users or service stations. This is sufficient to make enough boards go through factor testing and out as sold products. We didn't use to have

[time-nuts] Shera VXCO Controller and PCM61P

2015-01-16 Thread Jerry Pixton
Hello all. I am a Freq-nut recently joining the Time-nut list. I am putting together the parts for the Shera VXCO controller using the AA PCB. What are folks using now a days for the Burr-Brown PCM-61P DAC? I can not find the Analog Devices AD1861N chip anywhere either. I do see the

Re: [time-nuts] Current state of optical clocks and the definition of the second

2015-01-16 Thread Stéphane Rey
Hi, I've took the time to read carefully your long and detailed message Magnus and this was very interesting. I've learned many things that have enabled me to investigate further. Ah yes, you're right saying that the more you fall into these things, the more you discover that you have to

[time-nuts] Ublox 6T receiver, noisy PPS.

2015-01-16 Thread dan
Hi All,   I've been playing a Ublox 6T receivers on a synergy SSR-6Tru module. The unit has been running as part of a GPSDO. In logging the phase between GPS PPS and OXCO, a few days ago the normally small amplitude short term (10s to ~500s) phase wander became rather erratic. For the

Re: [time-nuts] Ublox 6T receiver, noisy PPS.

2015-01-16 Thread John C. Westmoreland, P.E.
Hello Dan, I have a LEA-6T running; have a nice external antenna, etc - it's been running for several days - I will check the 1PPS and report if I find anything like what you've discussed. Regards, John On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 4:03 PM, d...@irtelemetrics.com wrote: Hi All, I've been

Re: [time-nuts] Ublox 6T receiver, noisy PPS.

2015-01-16 Thread Azelio Boriani
I have noticed the sudden improvement of the PPS wander after the survey on a LEA-5T but the RMS wander is 30ns (see the timing appnote GPS.G6-X-11007 from uBlox) uncorrected and 15ns if sawtooth corrected. Your 3ns is strange, not the 30ns. On Sat, Jan 17, 2015 at 1:03 AM,

Re: [time-nuts] Ublox 6T receiver, noisy PPS.

2015-01-16 Thread Bob Camp
Hi It sounds like you are not doing sawtooth correction. If that is correct, then you may have been watching hanging bridges. Bob On Jan 16, 2015, at 7:03 PM, d...@irtelemetrics.com wrote: Hi All, I've been playing a Ublox 6T receivers on a synergy SSR-6Tru module. The unit has