Re: [time-nuts] New Timestamping / Time Interval Counter: the TICC

2016-11-27 Thread Bob Camp
Hi At least in my “unconstrained by reality” state, my thought is that the “sync” PPS signal is there all the time. You are as much doing a phase lock as a sync. The “PLL” only has a phase resolution of 100 ns so once it’s running, not much happens. Yes, this might get you into all sorts of

Re: [time-nuts] New Timestamping / Time Interval Counter: the TICC

2016-11-27 Thread Tom Van Baak
John, The PD15 divider that you're using will sync to within 1 PIC instruction. That's sounds good, but the TICC reads down to picoseconds so the 400 ns PIC granularity will look pretty high. There is another solution. And that is not to sync the h/w or s/w counters at all. You just let them

Re: [time-nuts] New Timestamping / Time Interval Counter: the TICC

2016-11-27 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
Hi Bob -- It's certainly possible to synchronize the TICC timescale epoch to an external pulse at startup. The external sync pulse would have to simultaneously reset (a) the picDIV and (b) the coarse (100us) counter in the Arduino. The signals to do that are available, so it's a worthwhile

[time-nuts] FS: HP Z3801A

2016-11-27 Thread Joseph Gray
I'm selling my remaining Z3801A. Months ago, I replaced the original GPS module with a more sensitive Oncore VP. At that time, I also replaced several suspect capacitors on the DC-DC converter board. Everything has been 100% since. The RS-232 mod was done long ago. A serial cable and a 24 VDC

Re: [time-nuts] New Timestamping / Time Interval Counter: the TICC

2016-11-27 Thread Bob Camp
Hi Ok, so the guess was fairly close :) How about a connector to allow an external PPS to reset the internal 10 MHz divider? That way all the data is “in sync” with the house standard. If I want to know that my GPSDO is +32.751 ns off from the house standard, I just look at the data on a

Re: [time-nuts] New Timestamping / Time Interval Counter: the TICC

2016-11-27 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
Good guess. The 10 MHz reference drives all the logic on the board, and particularly the counter that maintains a local timescale in 100us increments; the TDC7200 interpolates between the 100us ticks to stamp incoming events on channel A and/or B with picosecond precision. The stamps on both

Re: [time-nuts] New Timestamping / Time Interval Counter: the TICC

2016-11-27 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
Hi Luciano -- Glad to hear that! The capability you asked for already exists (great minds think alike...) In timestamp mode, the TICC will output the stamps for each channel independently, measured against the common 10 MHz reference. So if both channels are active, you'll see a bunch of

Re: [time-nuts] New Timestamping / Time Interval Counter: the TICC

2016-11-27 Thread Bob Camp
Hi Without doing a bunch of actual *work* I’m not sure what is inside the guts of the board. Being lazy I’ll just guess …. There appears to be a 10 MHz time base input and a pair of measurement inputs. In a lot us will be comparing to a “house standard”. That standard has a pps output that

Re: [time-nuts] Trimble 65256 OCXO

2016-11-27 Thread Bob Camp
Hi Pin 5 is the EFC reference pin. It may (or may not) have a voltage on it. If there is a voltage on it, it’s a voltage that the original OEM customer found useful. It may (or may not) have a series resistor to match up with an OEM specified trim pot. Bob > On Nov 27, 2016, at 2:04 AM, Dave

Re: [time-nuts] UCCM arrived

2016-11-27 Thread Bob Camp
Hi You have a system with cascaded gains and noise figures. The “front end” of the GPSDO is in the antenna. The cable is between the front end of the receiver and the rest of the “radio”. With a cascaded noise figure situation, as long as the noise figure of the first stage is low (it is)

Re: [time-nuts] New Timestamping / Time Interval Counter: the TICC

2016-11-27 Thread timeok
Hi John, I have planned to buy two TICC. An interesting feature would be to be able to do two simultaneous acquisitions, and Timelab as real time display,using the two indipendent input channels and the 10Mhz clock as single reference. Luciano www.timeok.it From "time-nuts"

Re: [time-nuts] UCCM arrived

2016-11-27 Thread giuseppe
>Most GPS antennas have an LNA built-in, making cable loss less significant. >Doesn't your antenna have that? Sure, specs says: - Amplifier Gain: 26 dB +/- 3 dB - Maximum Noise Figure:≤ 2.5 dB @ +25°C including pre-selector I still have to search a command to check signal strength. >For a long

Re: [time-nuts] Trimble 65256 OCXO

2016-11-27 Thread Hal Murray
tract...@ihug.co.nz said: > I thought it may be a reference supply for the EFC pin- with a 12.03 volt > supply the unknown pin measures at 2.803 volts-which is usefully above the > required EFC voltage ( ~2.4 volts) to bring it on frequency. > But does anyone have some hard data on this