[time-nuts] I: Re: Raw phase data of super-5065

2018-06-11 Thread tim...@timeok.it
Da "tim...@timeok.it" tim...@timeok.it A att...@kinali.ch Cc Data Tue, 12 Jun 2018 07:22:26 +0200 Oggetto Re: [time-nuts] Raw phase data of super-5065 Ciao Attila, here the .gif file. Luciano Da "Attila Kinali" att...@kinali.ch A tim...@timeok.it,"Discussion

Re: [time-nuts] Casio Wave Ceptor wrist watch - quick accuracy test

2018-06-11 Thread Jim Palfreyman
I posted about my G-shock watch on this forum probably about 10 years ago. Go look them up. I found mine superbly accurate and being in Tasmania I cannot connect to any LF service. After a while it started to get a little worse and I found you can take the back off and calibrate it. My

Re: [time-nuts] Casio Wave Ceptor wrist watch - quick accuracy test

2018-06-11 Thread Dana Whitlow
I should have mentioned that my Casio (module 3405) is a G-Shock "diving watch" with a 20-bar (~200m depth) rating. In so far as possible, I never take it off my wrist (TSA check points being the occasional exception), and don't want any leak problems even though I never dive. I once bought a

Re: [time-nuts] a newbie question: where can I purchase 794.7 nm VCSEL for building CPT rubidium clock?

2018-06-11 Thread Magnus Danielson
On 06/11/2018 09:52 AM, Attila Kinali wrote: > On Sat, 9 Jun 2018 23:28:29 +0800 > mimitech mimitech wrote: > >> Just do a little bit research on 1560nm telecom laser transceiver. The >> closest wavelength is 1560.61nm (DWDM channel 21) as defined by ITU. >> Usually telecom laser transceiver

Re: [time-nuts] Raw phase data of super-5065

2018-06-11 Thread Achim Gratz
Attila Kinali writes: > Unfortunately, I have no application that can read XPS files available. > Can you send it as something more standard? Okular opens the file without problems. MuPDF should do the same, but I can't test it at the moment. Regards, Achim. -- +<[Q+ Matrix-12 WAVE#46+305

Re: [time-nuts] a newbie question: where can I purchase 794.7nm VCSEL for building CPT rubidium clock?

2018-06-11 Thread mimitech mimitech
Hi Attila, I think your information is very interesting. I didn't realize which type of common LDs can do GHz level modulation (anyway I didn’t have much knowledge on laser diode before). It would be great If you could recommend several good Laser diodes (which vendor/part number) with possible

Re: [time-nuts] Casio Wave Ceptor wrist watch - quick accuracy test

2018-06-11 Thread David G. McGaw
I think you guys won the luck of the draw.  I have had a Casio WV200DA-1AV Wave Ceptor for a while, module 3140.  Nice watch, but it gains about 1/2 sec per day when not synchronized.  I recently got a Casio GW-M5610 G-Shock, module 3153.  I have not run it unsychronized, so have not checked

Re: [time-nuts] where can I purchase 794.7 nm VCSEL for building CPT rubidium clock?

2018-06-11 Thread Scott McGrath
For experimental use you are probably better advised to use a dye laser or a Fabry-Perot laser as both are available on the surplus market and both are ‘tunable’ and leave the VCSEL till you have a functioning prototype On Jun 11, 2018, at 4:29 AM, Dana Whitlow wrote: I should have written

[time-nuts] HP5065C or the 5065Jr.

2018-06-11 Thread cdelect
Joe, "What is mounted on top of the 10811?" That is a Clifton Labs Z1 buffer amp. Still made but by another company. Mounted on a small right angle bracket that is mounted using the existing screws on the back of the 10811 adaptor assy. It's input is connected to the 10Mhz out pins of

Re: [time-nuts] where can I purchase 794.7 nm VCSEL for building CPT rubidium clock?

2018-06-11 Thread Dana Whitlow
I should have written more clearly- the adhesive in question was *not* in the optical path. As is usual, variations are possible, one supposedly being that the crystal that lases at 1064 nm is also doped with something to make it nonlinear (so I've read). I kind of have my doubts over this,

Re: [time-nuts] where can I purchase 794.7 nm VCSEL for building CPT rubidium clock?

2018-06-11 Thread Bruce Griffiths
The better ones use optically contacted crystals to avoid browning of the adhesive due to the high power densities of the 1064nm laser required for efficient frequency doubling. Brue > On 11 June 2018 at 22:52 Dana Whitlow wrote: > > > Mark's description about how (most) green laser pointers

Re: [time-nuts] where can I purchase 794.7 nm VCSEL for building CPT rubidium clock?

2018-06-11 Thread Dana Whitlow
Mark's description about how (most) green laser pointers work is a bit in error, and is perhaps over-simplified- the reality is actually more fascinating yet: First a diode laser operating at around 808 or 809 nm is used to optically pump a solid state laser which generates light at 1064 nm.

Re: [time-nuts] Casio Wave Ceptor wrist watch - quick accuracy test

2018-06-11 Thread Dana Whitlow
I bought a Casio 'atomic watch" about 3 months ago, one which uses the '3405' module. I've also been running checks with radio setting turned off, and mine is coming in at just under 1 sec per month, based on seeing how long it takes to drift one second. But I find that visual/aural coordination

Re: [time-nuts] Raw phase data of super-5065

2018-06-11 Thread Attila Kinali
Ciao Luciano, On Fri, 8 Jun 2018 14:05:24 +0200 "tim...@timeok.it" wrote: >Here a ten days simultaneously run of the A and B version compared with my > HP Z3816A GPSDO. Thanks a lot! Unfortunately, I have no application that can read XPS files available. Can you send it as something

Re: [time-nuts] a newbie question: where can I purchase 794.7nm VCSEL for building CPT rubidium clock?

2018-06-11 Thread Attila Kinali
On Sat, 9 Jun 2018 16:54:15 +0800 mimitech mimitech wrote: > I prefer the 780/795nm VCSEL scheme for its simplicity. After some > searching, looks like the 780nm VCSELs are also not easy to source, > although other types of 780nm LD are common. Why are you focusing on VCSEL anyways? Standard

[time-nuts] Casio Wave Ceptor wrist watch - quick accuracy test

2018-06-11 Thread Esa Heikkinen
Hi! There seems to be some kind of comeback going on with 80's style digital watches. You may find replicas of some 80's models or even re-makes of the original models from original manufacturer. So I decided to get one. As a time-nut my primary goal was to have radio controlled 'atomic'

Re: [time-nuts] where can I purchase 794.7 nm VCSEL for building CPT rubidium clock?

2018-06-11 Thread Bruce Griffiths
PPLN (Periodically poled lithium Niobate) is the frequency doubler of choice for such applications however it needs to operated in a temperature regulated oven. To achieve efficient frequency doubling the input light needs to remain in sync with the frequency doubled output light as they

Re: [time-nuts] a newbie question: where can I purchase 794.7 nm VCSEL for building CPT rubidium clock?

2018-06-11 Thread Attila Kinali
On Sat, 9 Jun 2018 23:28:29 +0800 mimitech mimitech wrote: > Just do a little bit research on 1560nm telecom laser transceiver. The > closest wavelength is 1560.61nm (DWDM channel 21) as defined by ITU. > Usually telecom laser transceiver module uses DFB (distributed feedback) > type laser diode

Re: [time-nuts] ?==?utf-8?q? a newbie question: where can I purchase 794.7 nm VCSEL for building CPT rubidium clock?

2018-06-11 Thread Bruce Griffiths
The output wavelength of a VCSEL is current and temperature dependent so using a low noise current source and regulating the chip temperature is usually necessary to allow locking to an atomic transition. Most VCSELS for such applications include a peltier module within the housing. Bruce > On

[time-nuts] where can I purchase 794.7 nm VCSEL for building CPT rubidium clock?

2018-06-11 Thread Mark Sims
Well, no. Green laser pointers convert a rather high power 800 nm laser to 1600 nm in one crystal then divide it to 533 nm in another one. The physics and manufacturing of them is best described as black magic. They are cheap because China developed the process to grow the crystals in bulk

Re: [time-nuts] ?==?utf-8?q? a newbie question: where can I purchase 794.7 nm VCSEL for building CPT rubidium clock?

2018-06-11 Thread Attila Kinali
On Mon, 11 Jun 2018 06:53:49 +0200 Magnus Danielson wrote: > One might then ask what the availability and pricetag is for nonlinear > chrystal needed for frequency doubling. It cannot be too much, given the fact that these are used in green laser pointers. Though, I have to say I am astonished

Re: [time-nuts] [EXTERNAL EMAIL] Sayrosa 607B Frequency Synthesiser

2018-06-11 Thread REEVES Paul
Hi Nigel, It will also be the first info on the 607B that I have ever seen I will certainly download it when I get home (work filtering forbids it, with much else). Should allow me to fish my one out of the attic and actually use it - after letting the magic smoke out of the tants, of