Re: [time-nuts] eLoran test 6 Feb for almost 2 months

2017-02-03 Thread Chuck Harris
, but for random times, over very long intervals. There are numerous Wiki's, and other sources of information that can be found by searching for Loran C. -Chuck Harris John Marvin wrote: > I don't have a Loran receiver, and I live in Colorado. But I'd still like to > check > late at nig

Re: [time-nuts] Li-ion Battreries

2017-01-22 Thread Chuck Harris
would. -Chuck Harris Adrian Godwin wrote: > Recovered cells aren't only sold through ebay parts adverts - they're also > used for production. I recently bought a few cell phone boosters which > consist of an 18650, a charge circuit and a voltage booster to 5V. > > They were low

Re: [time-nuts] Li-ion Battreries

2017-01-22 Thread Chuck Harris
with pretty good results.. -Chuck Harris Attila Kinali wrote: > Hoi Bert, > Some small remarks: 18650 is by far the most common form factor > of Li-Ion batteries on the market. This is IMHO the better choice > than the 26650 if you want to be able to replace them in 10-20 years. > &g

Re: [time-nuts] wifi with time sync

2017-01-13 Thread Chuck Harris
. The switcher ovens simply splatter the whole ISM band with strong microwave noise. -Chuck Harris Bob Camp wrote: > Hi > > It just so happens that I’m trying to track down an issue with my WiFi as > I type this. My *guess* is that there is a dropout going on. The only easy > way I can see to g

Re: [time-nuts] Line Voltage - USA

2017-01-03 Thread Chuck Harris
Leap seconds only matter if you are counting seconds. The power line isn't. As long as they keep the frequency near nominal, they are fine. -Chuck Harris J wrote: > Power utilities tweak the system frequency on a daily basis to keep MAINS > powered clocks correct. I wonde

Re: [time-nuts] Line Voltage - USA

2017-01-02 Thread Chuck Harris
functioning GFI protectors are in use, and can be maintained, they have been wildly successful! I will have to leave discussions of which system is better/safer/ cheaper/more reliable, for another time and forum...preferably one where there is beer and loud music. -Chuck Harris Gregory Maxwell

Re: [time-nuts] [Summary] HP 115CR Clock Powerup / Documentation

2016-12-24 Thread Chuck Harris
I think the click was probably made loud intentionally. It would make it easier to set the clock accurately to within a fraction of a second. It would also make it quite evident if two clocks were out of sync. -Chuck Harris paul swed wrote: > Wow Mark thats not what I would have expected f

Re: [time-nuts] HP 115CR Clock Powerup / Documentation

2016-12-23 Thread Chuck Harris
, but it can. These clocks are not a lot of fun to live with. They sing along quite loudly at 1KHz. -Chuck Harris Hugh Blemings wrote: > Hi, > > I've been fortunate enough to acquire a HP 115CR Frequency Divider/Digital > Clock - > it's electromechanical and I suspect built in t

Re: [time-nuts] LH Z3801 and XP stalling

2016-12-16 Thread Chuck Harris
I spoke is part of the motherboard on the Dell computer. -Chuck Harris jimlux wrote: > On 12/16/16 6:33 AM, Chuck Harris wrote: >> A customer's 'doze 7 computer got auto updated to 'doze 10, >> and with that upgrade came a usb hub that timed out, turning >> itself off

Re: [time-nuts] LH Z3801 and XP stalling

2016-12-16 Thread Chuck Harris
Most older laptops have power saving hardware on the com ports and the lpt ports too! Try putting a blinky box on the port to see if the signals stay lit through the stall. -Chuck Harris paul swed wrote: > Thanks everyone. > However on the dell laptop its an actual rs232 port. The

Re: [time-nuts] LH Z3801 and XP stalling

2016-12-16 Thread Chuck Harris
that if he unplugged the monitor, plug and pray would restore things. For a while. -Chuck Harris jimlux wrote: > On 12/15/16 7:08 PM, Chuck Harris wrote: >> Sometimes, when one is doing a long run that goes past the >> usual power save times, the USB port will shut itself off.

Re: [time-nuts] LH Z3801 and XP stalling

2016-12-15 Thread Chuck Harris
? -Chuck Harris paul swed wrote: > Mark > I was going to respond with a humorous response. But can't come up with one. > Why does LH and XP stall only Santa knows. (Ok thats as good as it gets.) > No idea whats up but TBolt works absolutely fine on the XP Dell laptop with > a r

Re: [time-nuts] Totally unrelated, but..

2016-12-07 Thread Chuck Harris
works great on the bench, but fails when out hanging on a light pole... -Chuck Harris Joe Leikhim wrote: > Could the low noise parts actually be counterfeit, relabeled as such? > > Is the circuit the regulator feeds sensitive to a narrow band of voltage that > the > "good r

Re: [time-nuts] Swagelok and metric tubing question

2016-11-12 Thread Chuck Harris
even think of using compression fittings meant for copper, or plastic tubing on stainless. It won't go well if you do. -Chuck Harris cdel...@juno.com wrote: > Bob, > > That's the cheapest I have been able to find it. > > I'll probably go that route with the expensive version as

Re: [time-nuts] Prologix USB-GPIB Controller

2016-10-09 Thread Chuck Harris
s, and sell them as new. They probably are good enough for 99% of the applications where they might get used. aged even. -Chuck Harris Dr. David Kirkby (Kirkby Microwave Ltd) wrote: > > Like Bob Camp said, it is better to pay more money and get a genuine > product. >

Re: [time-nuts] Rare HP clock

2016-10-03 Thread Chuck Harris
There is a fist sized bag of silica gel sitting in an open from the top aluminum box. Most units also have a little 24V Nicad pack. -Chuck Harris paul swed wrote: > My speculation on the xtal. So the question is what is the empty box on the > right that looks like paper is

Re: [time-nuts] Rare HP clock

2016-10-03 Thread Chuck Harris
, the little herd of wet tantalum capacitors in its circuitry, and the internal nicad pack that keeps it live during short power failures.. The mechanical counter probably needs some cleaning and lubrication at this point. -Chuck Harris Dave M wrote: > It's Ebay item 351861979923 > > Dave M &g

Re: [time-nuts] notch filter for close in phase noise measurement

2016-10-02 Thread Chuck Harris
That is a most interesting suggestion. Suppose the filter crystal was pulled to the DUT frequency, and due to the inertia of its very high Q, was able to show you the phase noise variations of the DUT better than one might expect? -Chuck Harris Bob Camp wrote: >.One thing you may be see

Re: [time-nuts] notch filter for close in phase noise measurement

2016-10-02 Thread Chuck Harris
Adrian, Simple is nice, but if we cannot talk about the limitations that come about because of the simplicity, without causing offense, how can we ever know if simple is good enough? -Chuck Harris Adrian Rus wrote: > Rick, > Why hunt goose with the cannon? The post is about a simple(r) c

Re: [time-nuts] Efratom MFS-209 conversion information.

2016-09-30 Thread Chuck Harris
Thank you Charles! -Chuck Harris Charles Steinmetz wrote: > Chuck wrote: > >> The MBF distribution modules are all simple buffers, >> and are mounted on the back panel. Being distribution >> modules, they typically have 4 BNC outputs per module. > > I po

Re: [time-nuts] Efratom MFS-209 conversion information.

2016-09-28 Thread Chuck Harris
better if they would have made a different panel label for the two species of MBF modules. -Chuck Harris Colin Bradley via time-nuts wrote: > I just received an Efratom MFS-209 GPSDO that I purchased onEbay. Everything > appears to work. The only manual that I found online is forth

Re: [time-nuts] Inside of FT1200-100

2016-09-26 Thread Chuck Harris
. -Chuck Harris Ed Palmer wrote: > > > On 2016-09-26 10:00 AM, Christopher Hoover <c...@murgatroid.com> wrote: >>> > >>> >You might be able to slide something like a feeler guage down between the >>> >oven and the rubber blanket to break the oscil

Re: [time-nuts] Inside of FT1200-100

2016-09-20 Thread Chuck Harris
That is the board that contains the heater controller, and the output buffer. You need to get into the tiny vacuum thermos bottle where all of the wires go. -Chuck Harris Christopher Hoover wrote: > Top of the board stack > > https://goo.gl/photos/cUBtdTYH

Re: [time-nuts] Subject: Re: Working with SMT parts (Bob Albert)

2016-08-18 Thread Chuck Harris
. It works so much better than lead free. -Chuck Harris Bob Albert via time-nuts wrote: > Well I have found some Chinese sources of 42 - 50 grams on ebay for around > $3. Is > this the right stuff? The brand is Mechanics. > > Bob ___ ti

Re: [time-nuts] Subject: Re: Working with SMT parts (Bob Albert)

2016-08-18 Thread Chuck Harris
Uhmmm, I buy it new, and expire it myself... blush. -Chuck Harris Bob Albert via time-nuts wrote: > So where do you get this expired paste? I have tried a few searches but no > luck. > Bob ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts

Re: [time-nuts] Noisy Sulzer 2.5 - Suggestions?

2016-08-18 Thread Chuck Harris
. These white cube shaped capacitors are something high quality. The white color is a porcelain glaze that protects the capacitor, and the wires seemed to be connected to some sort of sintered silver area on the body. -Chuck Harris Ed Palmer wrote: > That's not something I would have expec

Re: [time-nuts] Subject: Re: Working with SMT parts (Bob Albert)

2016-08-18 Thread Chuck Harris
/lead paste, not the RoHS stuff. -Chuck Harris Steve Wiseman wrote: > On 18 August 2016 at 07:07, Bob Albert via time-nuts <time-nuts@febo.com> > wrote: >> I didn't use the liquid solder because I didn't have any and it doesn't keep >> very long. > > That's not

Re: [time-nuts] Noisy Sulzer 2.5 - Suggestions?

2016-08-17 Thread Chuck Harris
, and performance improved greatly. -Chuck Harris Ed Palmer wrote: > I picked up a Sulzer 2.5 (not 2.5A or 2.5B or 2.5C) oscillator and 5P power > supply. > It's working, but the AlDev at low tau is poor. After a few days of operation > the > AlDev @ 1sec. is only 1e-10. It's not the pow

Re: [time-nuts] Working with SMT parts.

2016-08-12 Thread Chuck Harris
of translucent worms that cover everything I view. You get used to it... -Chuck Harris Brooke Clarke wrote: > Hi Chuck: > > The Mantis is very expensive and the arm in the EEVblog review is not as > stable as my > arm. > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3o0EWHEH08 > about US$ 330

Re: [time-nuts] Working with SMT parts.

2016-08-11 Thread Chuck Harris
LCD screen. You can do a lot with a cheap USB camera mounted to a boom, a fiber optic light source, or a ring light, and a laptop computer to display the image. -Chuck Harris Bob Albert via time-nuts wrote: > What are the important parameters regarding purchase of a stereo microscope? &

Re: [time-nuts] Safely getting the electrical length of a connected antenna feedline

2016-08-09 Thread Chuck Harris
, whatever you desire. You could even modulate your sweep generator with a pulse, detect the pulse with a diode, and measure the delay with your oscilloscope. -Chuck Harris Dr. David Kirkby (Kirkby Microwave Ltd) wrote: > On 8 Aug 2016 21:23, "Bob Camp" <kb...@n1k.org> wrote: >

Re: [time-nuts] HP5370 power supply measurements

2016-07-15 Thread Chuck Harris
by with a much smaller fan. It might be nice to leave a label somewhere that says what you did, so the next owner won't be unpleasantly surprised by it failing in his desert tent. -Chuck Harris Dr. David Kirkby (Kirkby Microwave Ltd) wrote: > On 13 Jul 2016 08:31, "Charles Steinmetz&q

Re: [time-nuts] that's really awesome

2016-06-22 Thread Chuck Harris
I can't imagine anyone following a link that is presented in this way. I love a lot of things, how about telling me why, as a time-nut, that I should love it? As it is, this looks just like many, many, spambots taking over a list. -Chuck Harris hbonho...@freenet.de wrote: hi, I think

Re: [time-nuts] Have I wrecked my FE-5680A?

2016-04-29 Thread Chuck Harris
the right thing to do) they simply stub out the error path and go on. Yuck! If you have been sending an ill formed packet, you best stop doing that ;-) -Chuck Harris Nick Sayer via time-nuts wrote: I'm sending at most a single 9 byte command per second. I currently wait for the TX reg empty flag

Re: [time-nuts] Have I wrecked my FE-5680A?

2016-04-29 Thread Chuck Harris
, and data RAM space. Things can get really ugly when that is done. Also, to test my guess, put a delay between each character sent to the FE-5680A. Say, 2 or 3 ms. Needless to say before you do this, you need to develop a way of restoring the firmware. -Chuck Harris Bert Kehren via time-nuts

Re: [time-nuts] Building a mains frequency monitor

2016-04-10 Thread Chuck Harris
A more modern name for a synchronous motor is a permanent magnet stepper motor. Any PM stepper, and a couple of microfarad capacitor becomes a synchronous motor when connected to the power line. -Chuck Harris jimlux wrote: Alternatively, use a synchronous motor driving a load

Re: [time-nuts] Austron 2010B

2016-03-25 Thread Chuck Harris
Naturally. -Chuck Harris paul swed wrote: Chuck if you do rescan them Diddiers site would be a great location. Regards Paul WB8TSL On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 5:11 PM, Chuck Harris <cfhar...@erols.com> wrote: Yes, those are copies of my manuals. I had hoped that Brooke would free them o

Re: [time-nuts] Austron 2010B

2016-03-23 Thread Chuck Harris
Yes, those are copies of my manuals. I had hoped that Brooke would free them one day, but not so far. I plan to rescan them and release them. -Chuck Harris Dave M wrote: There's a CDROM available from http://www.prc68.com/P/Prod.html#Austron that contains a manual for the 2010B, as well

Re: [time-nuts] Austron 2010B

2016-03-23 Thread Chuck Harris
. -Chuck Harris paul swed wrote: James Funny I thought that manual would be around also and its not. So it is a disciplined oscillator and thats nice. The question is what does it want to control it. It may be quite a useful unit if as an example it took a 1pps in. But I will speculate it wanted

Re: [time-nuts] I am a nut

2016-03-02 Thread Chuck Harris
capacitance null and void. Electrolytic capacitors marked "Mexico" reached the replace on sight stage a good 20 years ago. The trimmer caps on the reference aren't generally a problem. -Chuck Harris paul swed wrote: Umm Joe. A good sign of a recovering time-nut is to know when t

Re: [time-nuts] OCXO Retrace

2016-02-11 Thread Chuck Harris
I would venture that your unit has a broken SMD part, or a bad solder joint. Try using a wooden chopstick, and lightly pressing here and there, and touching various parts to see what happens. -Chuck Harris Artek Manuals wrote: To further underscore Charles point and to add another dimension

Re: [time-nuts] Valpey-Fisher VFT22H OCXO Output

2016-01-30 Thread Chuck Harris
Looks like the output of a simple single ended emitter follower that isn't being loaded properly. Try again, but this time with a 50 ohms load. -Chuck Harris Logan Cummings wrote: Hi All, Curious what could give this waveform (attached) - I presume this is not correct output

Re: [time-nuts] low noise multiplication to 100 MHz

2016-01-27 Thread Chuck Harris
them direct from China cheaper than that... which is why I don't sell them anymore. -Chuck Harris Bryan _ wrote: Chuck, what do you use for a hot air source. The good ones are very expensive. Wonder if there is something for the hobbyist. Have seen a few repair videos where they used just used

Re: [time-nuts] low noise multiplication to 100 MHz

2016-01-26 Thread Chuck Harris
/2-2/3 the way to the solder melting temperature, and use a little gentle hot air source to head the pads the rest of the way to molten. No need for soldering irons. Practice on junk boards until it becomes natural. -Chuck Harris Bert Kehren via time-nuts wrote: We have looked at the LMK

Re: [time-nuts] low noise multiplication to 100 MHz

2016-01-26 Thread Chuck Harris
used one, but I have heard good things from those that have. Not exactly cheap, but getting old has its costs. You can work in SMD electronics when you get old. -Chuck Harris Bert Kehren via time-nuts wrote: Chuck Thank you for your advice, I will print it out and when needed experiment. We use

Re: [time-nuts] Timelab, two SR620s and losing samples

2016-01-17 Thread Chuck Harris
orchestrated by the controller, the controller can easily interleave things in a way that can cause unintended latency in a critical instrument. -Chuck Harris Magnus Danielson wrote: Poul-Henning, On 01/17/2016 12:52 PM, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: In message <569b61cf.3

Re: [time-nuts] Lady Heather Server On Raspberry Pi 2 Model B?

2016-01-12 Thread Chuck Harris
be trying to refresh the screen ;-) -Chuck Harris Mark Sims wrote: Lady Heather predates QT by several years... actually back to 1985 when her mommy controlled Magellan GPS receivers. A version ran on HP95LX palmtops during the first Gulf War. The server option just uses the server program to connect

Re: [time-nuts] Lady Heather Server On Raspberry Pi 2 Model B?

2016-01-11 Thread Chuck Harris
that made it work on this, or that variation of DOS, 'Doze, debug... -Chuck Harris Mark Sims wrote: I wonder if I've got anywhere near the skills to do it... Probably not right now... it's not so much as knowing C, it's knowing the ins and out of knowing how your operating system (Windows, Linux, etc

Re: [time-nuts] Lady Heather Server On Raspberry Pi 2 Model B?

2016-01-09 Thread Chuck Harris
Unfortunately, LH uses a graphics toolkit that was written by John Miles, and it, and he, is windows only. I got started on converting it to PyQT4, but got side tracked. Maybe this year is the year I get all of the stuff I have promised done? -Chuck Harris Ed Armstrong wrote: Has anyone

Re: [time-nuts] Lady Heather Server On Raspberry Pi 2 Model B?

2016-01-09 Thread Chuck Harris
and tablets. -Chuck Harris jim s wrote: On 1/9/2016 6:36 AM, Chuck Harris wrote: Unfortunately, LH uses a graphics toolkit that was written by John Miles, and it, and he, is windows only. I got started on converting it to PyQT4, but got side tracked. Maybe this year is the year I get all

Re: [time-nuts] Springer textbooks >10 years old now available fordownload as PDF at no cost

2015-12-30 Thread Chuck Harris
Seems to me that there was a court case where Springer was ordered to follow through on its promise to release all books and academic papers to the public domain after something like 5 or 10 years. Anybody else remember anything like that? -Chuck Harris Bob Camp wrote: Hi Actually it looks

Re: [time-nuts] SMD TADD-1 distribution amplifier - seeking comments and suggestions?

2015-12-18 Thread Chuck Harris
... the exact value varies by the manufacturer. -Chuck Harris Dr. David Kirkby (Kirkby Microwave Ltd) wrote: On 17 Dec 2015 21:00, "Anders Wallin" <anders.e.e.wal...@gmail.com> wrote: First prototype assembled today, tested with 12 VDC SMPS wall-wart supply and with 12 V lead-acid ba

Re: [time-nuts] Mechanical clock sound pickup circuit

2015-12-15 Thread Chuck Harris
Let's be serious here. Radar is the wrong part of the E-M spectrum. Use light. It is cheap, easy to detect, and there are plenty of reflections to go around. Or better still, listen to the tic. Then you don't even have to open the case Which brings this full circle. -Chuck Harris Jim

Re: [time-nuts] Mechanical clock sound pickup circuit

2015-12-12 Thread Chuck Harris
it sits in the various "positions" (dial up, dial down, pendant up, down, right left...) All of this from the feverish minds of horologists back at the dawn of the vacuum tube. I would suggest that any programming you use for your tools do similar things. -Chuck Harris Andrea Baldon

Re: [time-nuts] RG 6 U couplings

2015-12-11 Thread Chuck Harris
is a waste. Burning teflon wire has its own plethora of problems. -Chuck Harris Mark Spencer wrote: I looked up the part number of the cable I installed and the data sheet says it does have Teflon insulation. It does look different than other Teflon cables I have seen though. My main concern

Re: [time-nuts] RG 6 U couplings

2015-12-06 Thread Chuck Harris
quot;F" connector, and crimping die. Fortunately the Ideal crimping die has all three sizes. -Chuck Harris F. W. Bray wrote: For those of us in the U.S., does anyone have suggestions of vendors or brands of quality connectors and installation tools? Over the years, I worked my way up from cheap

Re: [time-nuts] RG 6 U couplings

2015-12-06 Thread Chuck Harris
insulation as the Quad, only it should have fewer shield layers. -Chuck Harris Hal Murray wrote: cfhar...@erols.com said: It is important to note that RG58 <> RG6 <> Quad RG6. They are each different in diameter, loss, and shielding capability. Is the attenuation of RG6 significant

Re: [time-nuts] Einstein Special on PBS

2015-11-29 Thread Chuck Harris
ot; explanation confuses things more than it helps if you are actually doing physics, but does tend to make an intuitive feeling for special and general relativity available to the unwashed masses. -Chuck Harris Didier Juges wrote: Wow. So elegantly simple explanation, thanks John! On November

Re: [time-nuts] Einstein Special on PBS

2015-11-27 Thread Chuck Harris
Or, you could just stay at high elevation for a longer period of time and make the travel time less significant. -Chuck Harris Arthur Dent wrote: Tom wrote: "I'll make just a one word correction to your summary. The clocks run a bit faster not because of "the spinning earth&qu

Re: [time-nuts] Thunderbolt "osc age alarm", where to get replacement oscillator?

2015-11-13 Thread Chuck Harris
the metal can, and access the trimmer. I would sure hate to toss away all that hard earned aged xtal for a new one at this point. -Chuck Harris Pete Stephenson wrote: Hi all, Lady Heather just reported that my Thunderbolt's "osc age alarm" just activated. The manual tells me

Re: [time-nuts] NAVSTAR proteus GPS time and frequency unit

2015-11-09 Thread Chuck Harris
Magnus, Thanks for the detailed reply. I haven't had a need (read: no customer has paid me to do so...) to wallow through the GPS ICD, so that document is foreign to me. Your explanation clarifies the situation... Now it makes sense. Thanks! -Chuck Harris Magnus Danielson wrote: Chuck

Re: [time-nuts] NAVSTAR proteus GPS time and frequency unit

2015-11-09 Thread Chuck Harris
Seems to me that there is more to this than just getting the displayed date wrong. It is true that the date will present wrongly, but what about leap seconds? If the GPS week rolls over at 1024, how will the GPS figure out which is the proper calendar date to apply the leap second? -Chuck

Re: [time-nuts] HP 53131A display dim

2015-11-08 Thread Chuck Harris
, and is still way too bright. I make my wife prop something to block it so that it doesn't keep me awake. -Chuck Harris cdel...@juno.com wrote: Anyone know about these displays? If the display is getting dim do I need a new VFD module? Thanks, Corby

Re: [time-nuts] 10811 unsoldered fuse

2015-10-20 Thread Chuck Harris
that board has been worked on by a technician... and not a very proud one at that. -Chuck Harris Dimitri.p wrote: How common is it to find undetected missing solder on 10811 parts after all these years? Dimitri ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts

Re: [time-nuts] 4046 experiment for gpsdo

2015-09-26 Thread Chuck Harris
You missed the part about the 10MHz being divided by 10 million to produce a 1PPS signal that is compared to the second 1PPS signal... -Chuck Harris Will wrote: Hi, I'm new and trying to get to grips with things. If I understand correctly, please forgive if I have it wrong, This locks

Re: [time-nuts] Subject: Subject: Re: HP5065A C-field current voltage mod

2015-09-04 Thread Chuck Harris
temperature at the helm. -Chuck Harris Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: In message <1530394039.1439027.1441348869239.javamail.ya...@mail.yahoo.com>, Pe rry Sandeen writes: OK, but why? The temperature would be stable so the resistorsand reference diode wouldn't drift. No, the tempe

Re: [time-nuts] HP5065A C-field current is temperature sensitive

2015-08-31 Thread Chuck Harris
for the designers of the 5065. -Chuck Harris Bob Camp wrote: Hi As we go joyously bashing the poor guys that designed this beast, it’s worth noting just how old the design is. 741 op amps were indeed “modern” when they did much of this and quite possibly to modern to be trusted. Most of the design would

Re: [time-nuts] Lamp oven repair info for HP 5065A

2015-08-02 Thread Chuck Harris
... I ought to take it off of the shelf and give it a go once again... should be easy... for an engineer that now has 35 years more experience... Right? -Chuck Harris cdel...@juno.com wrote: Hi, Just thought I'd share some info on repairing a defective HP 5065A lamp oven. These ovens can fail either

Re: [time-nuts] Source of Rubidium Lamp for Efratom FRK

2015-07-31 Thread Chuck Harris
to allow it to cool... or, you can toss it into a can full of white ashes from your fireplace. Or, leave it be and wait until it really fails before fixing it. -Chuck Harris Mike Niven wrote: Thanks Bob and Chuck for the comments. As Bob says, the lamp is easily replaceable (just unscrews

Re: [time-nuts] Just When You Thought It Was Safe ....

2015-07-30 Thread Chuck Harris
the price back up to $150. I considered buying one about two such casts ago, and missed the low price point... and then decided that I didn't really need to play this game with the seller. -Chuck Harris paul swed wrote: Bob Just took a look and the pair seems to still be at $150. Maybe

Re: [time-nuts] Source of Rubidium Lamp for Efratom FRK

2015-07-30 Thread Chuck Harris
cell are a specially matched set. Just any lamp is not necessarily going to work with any filter cell. -Chuck Harris Mike Niven wrote: Thanks for the comment Bob. Tracing Efratom through the ages, I see they are now Microsemi. I wonder whether they will still have a lamp for such a geriatric Rb

Re: [time-nuts] OCXO with ADEV of 1E-13 on Pluto Mission

2015-07-16 Thread Chuck Harris
it even has a copy of the disk that has all of our names stored in it. My wife designed some of the ASICs used in New Horizons. -Chuck Harris John Laur wrote: The link below is an updated version of the same paper: http://www.boulder.swri.edu/~tcase/NH%20RF%20Telecom%20Sys%20ID1369

Re: [time-nuts] Omega counters and Parabolic Variance (PVAR)

2015-07-14 Thread Chuck Harris
in place of the original 5370 Motorola processor? Thanks! -Chuck Harris Magnus Danielson wrote: Fellow time-nuts, Since I haven't seen any reports on this, I though I would write down a few lines. While normal counters use a pair of phase-samples to estimate the frequency, now called Pi counters

Re: [time-nuts] Omega counters and Parabolic Variance (PVAR)

2015-07-14 Thread Chuck Harris
Hi Magnus, John, et al, did such a nice job of making us a hammer for our 5370's, that it has the rest of us searching for nails. Maybe this could be a good place to start? -Chuck Harris Magnus Danielson wrote: Hi Chuck, On 07/14/2015 07:46 PM, Chuck Harris wrote: Hi Magnus, Am I

[time-nuts] Leap second results: Ball/Efratom MGPS

2015-07-04 Thread Chuck Harris
of the story is, if you want to be in with the in-crowd, and you are just a mere mortal (like me), you had better rehearse *all* of the steps in advance. A happy Independence Day to everyone in the USA! -Chuck Harris ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts

Re: [time-nuts] Casio Watches 13 Year Drift in Seattle

2015-06-30 Thread Chuck Harris
, the only testing required (after the initial design phase) is to program an offset into the watch that makes up for minor frequency variations in the crystal at nominal room temperature. Crystal manufacture is an imperfect process, so they have to do that anyway. -Chuck Harris Andy wrote

Re: [time-nuts] Casio Watches 13 Year Drift in Seattle

2015-06-29 Thread Chuck Harris
gadgets. -Chuck Harris Bryan _ wrote: But wouldn't normal watch wear just balance itself over time, one wears their watch for say 12 hours and the rest it sits on a counter at a much colder temperature. So wonder if Casio would actually go to such lengths to compensate. Maybe, interesting

Re: [time-nuts] Testing the Datum LPRO Rb oscillator

2015-06-17 Thread Chuck Harris
... Once the bulb is cleared, you are good to go for another lifetime. -Chuck Harris Sean Gallagher wrote: Good afternoon everyone, So I have a bunch of Datum and Efratom LPRO Rb oscillators. I know that one of them is bad and I already swapped it out. I was getting really long lock times (if lock

Re: [time-nuts] KS-24361 NO GPS - again

2015-05-29 Thread Chuck Harris
Thees units were made for the phone company, and phone companies are big on hot-swapping modules. The shorter pins are shortened to make sure that their circuit doesn't make contact until the longer pins have made contact. Don't fix them! -Chuck Harris billriches wrote: Hi Ulli, I heard

Re: [time-nuts] 3048A software question

2015-05-26 Thread Chuck Harris
The easiest way of getting a new well supported version of DOS, is to download FreeDOS. Anything that worked on any version of MSDOS will run under FreeDOS... and so much more! -Chuck Harris davidh wrote: Folks, I'm also working on getting the MSDOS version running. What is the most recent

Re: [time-nuts] Terrestrial Tides and Land Movement

2015-05-26 Thread Chuck Harris
, and then pulled the antenna cable back through the pipe, causing the plug and antenna to pop into the pipe mounting the antenna. -Chuck Harris Bob Stewart wrote: Hi Bob, Thanks for taking the time to explain the 4ns and 20ns wanders. I have just been calling them constellation errors without being able

Re: [time-nuts] TimeLab and Wine: was Re: New 5370A

2015-05-19 Thread Chuck Harris
for a great number of different packages. The scripts pull in any needed windows DLL's, and applications. It's cheap to buy a years support, and they give all of their enhancements back to the wine project. -Chuck Harris Bob Stewart wrote: Hi Chuck, I've renamed this thread, and expect it to die

Re: [time-nuts] New 5370A

2015-05-14 Thread Chuck Harris
, seem to work... even a few viruses. When I tried timelab, on Wine, it seemed to work ok for me. Lady Heather also works nicely on Wine. -Chuck Harris ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin

Re: [time-nuts] lawnmower robots may be the end of VLF timekeeping

2015-05-11 Thread Chuck Harris
a problem for those who routinely use SVG? Maybe. I expect that the solver of this problem will be someone who is flexible enough to embrace a wide variety of new techniques, and processes. -Chuck Harris -Original Message- From: Poul-Henning Kamp Sent: Saturday, May 09, 2015 7:16 AM

Re: [time-nuts] EMI and CE certification

2015-05-11 Thread Chuck Harris
antenna lengths for unlicensed services of this sort, in this frequency range. I would quite imagine that any certification they may have is for the transmitter and receiver, without an antenna. -Chuck Harris Alex Pummer wrote: yes for transmitter antennas, but not for receiver antennas in Austria

Re: [time-nuts] EMI and CE certification

2015-05-10 Thread Chuck Harris
My recollection is that in the US, certain requirements exist for antenna length on the so called free bands. I have no idea what the European requirements might be, but, perhaps they can be foiled by their allowing their minuscule amounts of power to flow into an over length antenna? -Chuck

Re: [time-nuts] Important parameters for a GPS/GNSS antenna

2015-05-09 Thread Chuck Harris
accurately the angle of rotation. If you plotted the GPS location relative to the angular rotation, you could then know the offset from the assumed physical center, and the real phase center... -Chuck Harris Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: In message fc02a5e8-5396-4474-a307-546e10909...@n1k.org, Bob

Re: [time-nuts] TymServe 2100 1995 Issue - A Kludgy Fix

2015-05-05 Thread Chuck Harris
, adds 20 to the year, and then sends it on to the rest of the system. Everything that is not a date gets passed through unmolested. -Chuck Harris Pete Stephenson wrote: On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 2:42 AM, Andrew Cooper acoo...@keck.hawaii.edu wrote: We also ran into the TS2100 1995 bug this weekend

Re: [time-nuts] TymServe 2100 1995 Issue - A Kludgy Fix

2015-05-05 Thread Chuck Harris
the wisdom of ignoring the well publicized 1024 week roll over bug, and not replacing/reflashing the GPS receiver years ago. -Chuck Harris Tom Van Baak wrote: Hi Chuck, It's not that simple. First, it's not 20 years, but 1024 weeks (19.6 years). And not UTC weeks (which may have leap seconds) but GPS

Re: [time-nuts] Visual clock comparison

2015-04-20 Thread Chuck Harris
stopwatch... Which, oddly enough, you can still buy. -Chuck Harris Bill Beam wrote: On Sun, 19 Apr 2015 23:25:10 -0400, Chuck Harris wrote: 1/5th second is simply the rate at which the balance wheel on a standard stopwatch ticks... 18000BPM. -Chuck Harris You must mean 18000BPH

Re: [time-nuts] Visual clock comparison

2015-04-19 Thread Chuck Harris
1/5th second is simply the rate at which the balance wheel on a standard stopwatch ticks... 18000BPM. -Chuck Harris Jim Lux wrote: Hence the reason that horse races are traditionally timed in 1/5th second increments. (1/5th second is also about 1 stride for a race horse at full gallop 3.5-4

Re: [time-nuts] KS-24361 Power Module Repair

2015-04-14 Thread Chuck Harris
in a container filled with naptha (aka lighter fluid, or fuel) and let it soak over night. By morning, there will be this highly bloated and fractured gelatinous mess all over the board. -Chuck Harris Bob Stewart wrote: OK, that explains your comment. This is most likely a silicone based potting compound

Re: [time-nuts] KS-24361 Power Module Repair

2015-04-13 Thread Chuck Harris
the epoxy starts to feel hard again, pop it back in the oven. -Chuck Harris OBTW, we are not talking about crystal ovens here, but rather unpotting power supply modules. Al Wolfe wrote: This seems a bit toasty and is equivalent to 284F. Maybe meant 140F not C? An oven set to 140C is your

Re: [time-nuts] KS-24361 Power Module Repair

2015-04-10 Thread Chuck Harris
at whatever frequency it felt like... -Chuck Harris Bob Stewart wrote: This is just a brief report, not a how-to. I got a KS_24361 with a bad Lucent power module. Having nothing to lose I thought I'd see if it came apart. After unsoldering it from the motherboard, I found the usual potting

Re: [time-nuts] 58503A alarm light on, but :SYSTEM:STATUS? indicates all is ok

2015-04-01 Thread Chuck Harris
I can't help but notice that you have several of these entries: Log 067:20150101.00:00:11: 5V is out of tolerance, value: 5.52 Log 068:20150101.00:00:11: 15V is out of tolerance, value: 19.46 I think you better look into them before anything else. -Chuck Harris Dr. David Kirkby (Kirkby

Re: [time-nuts] Need advice for multilateration setup

2015-03-27 Thread Chuck Harris
change the amplitude modulation frequency. Otherwise it should work beautifully. -Chuck Harris Peter Reilley wrote: Robert; It seems that a Doppler system should work for you. But first, you have a problem. If you want to track your rocket to 100K feet (20 miles) using some form

Re: [time-nuts] Comparing the BeagleBone Black Raspberry Pi as NTP servers

2015-03-22 Thread Chuck Harris
One of those services is likely the full blown web server that runs on the BBB to allow you to view the help pages. -Chuck Harris Attila Kinali wrote: On Sat, 21 Mar 2015 16:23:30 - David J Taylor david-tay...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote: I've just put up my first draft of a comparison

Re: [time-nuts] Lady Heather

2015-03-11 Thread Chuck Harris
I Do. She works with wine on linux, and likes it! -Chuck Harris Dave Mallery wrote: hi does anyone have the lady running on WINE under Linux?? On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 6:13 PM, Paul Berger phb@gmail.com wrote: I have also used LH with a Thunderbolt 'E' and did not have any issues

Re: [time-nuts] PRS-1- Rubidium

2015-02-22 Thread Chuck Harris
electrolytic tantalum capacitor to cause corrosion. However, burned epoxy circuit board is very corrosive. -Chuck Harris Bruce Hunter via time-nuts wrote: Jurg, I did not see your picture before responding earlier. Check the dipped tantalum on the right for a hole that spouted acid. The device

Re: [time-nuts] XOR frequency doubler question 5/10 Mhz

2015-02-20 Thread Chuck Harris
dependent phase shifters to your circuit. -Chuck Harris paul swed wrote: Experimenting with a 74ls86 XOR doubler for 5 to 10 Mhz. Typically this would use a 90 degree phase shift to the other gate. The gate acting as a mixer to produce 10 Mhz. The reason to experiment is that I have noticed most

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