Re: [time-nuts] Thunderbolt stability and ambient temperature

2009-06-15 Thread Chuck Harris
one needs tons of thermal mass plus rapid exchange with the air, use brick checkerwork or a pebble bed, a standard industrial approach: < That can be a good way too. How are you going to keep it dry and mold free? What about the ever present dust? -Chuck Harris

Re: [time-nuts] Thunderbolt stability and ambient temperature

2009-06-13 Thread Chuck Harris
closet/box your standard occupied at a more stable temperature. -Chuck Harris J. Forster wrote: Chuck, I don't dispute that you can contain water in plastic a long time, but, if some does escape it may not matter to the bottle contents, but it could well raise the humidity of the surround

Re: [time-nuts] Thunderbolt stability and ambient temperature

2009-06-13 Thread Chuck Harris
asins that have been holding water for decades. Don't let the fact that water might leak dissuade you from using it as a cheap highly capable thermal ballast. -Chuck Harris Thomas A. Frank wrote: More to the point, you will be disappointed to find the bottles will NOT last that long.

Re: [time-nuts] Thunderbolt stability and ambient temperature

2009-06-13 Thread Chuck Harris
ecall hearing anyone make the same claim as you have, I do have a couple of books on blacksmithing, from the days of yore, that I will skim to see if anyone observed the same effect. -Chuck Harris Rex wrote: Chuck Harris wrote: I truly hope you aren't bothered by our rumination. We c

Re: [time-nuts] Thunderbolt stability and ambient temperature

2009-06-12 Thread Chuck Harris
Rex wrote: Humans are terrible witnesses when it comes to judging lengths of time, and degrees of temperature. That's probably why clocks and thermometers were invented. -Chuck Harris When I started this part of the thread I said that one of these days I want to try to make

Re: [time-nuts] Thunderbolt stability and ambient temperature

2009-06-11 Thread Chuck Harris
replaced by a terrifically large conductive loss of heat. The extremely quick cooling is why you dunk the bar in water in the first place. -Chuck Harris ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin

Re: [time-nuts] Thunderbolt stability and ambient temperature

2009-06-11 Thread Chuck Harris
lower temperature. Bruce Humans are terrible witnesses when it comes to judging lengths of time, and degrees of temperature. That's probably why clocks and thermometers were invented. -Chuck Harris ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@f

Re: [time-nuts] Thunderbolt stability and ambient temperature

2009-06-11 Thread Chuck Harris
urning you than does steel. -Chuck Harris ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.

Re: [time-nuts] Thunderbolt stability and ambient temperature

2009-06-11 Thread Chuck Harris
ust the heat of the light bulb. My environmental chamber will heat up to 70C from just the heat of the 60W bulb in the chamber. -Chuck Harris ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/list

Re: [time-nuts] Thunderbolt stability and ambient temperature

2009-06-11 Thread Chuck Harris
Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: In message <4a30457e.9060...@erols.com>, Chuck Harris writes: And evaporates and leaks. But yes, I've used water for quick jobs. I just don't know what to say to that! Even a child can put a case of bottled water in a box, and not have it evaporate

Re: [time-nuts] Thunderbolt stability and ambient temperature

2009-06-10 Thread Chuck Harris
is for the average Joe to hold water in a bottle without leaks and other obnoxious behavior for long periods of time, with no effort. -Chuck Harris J. Forster wrote: Actually, Chuck, I beg to differ. I have some old bottles filled with essentially water, and the sides are now somewhat squished i

Re: [time-nuts] Thunderbolt stability and ambient temperature

2009-06-10 Thread Chuck Harris
r in a box, and not have it evaporate or leak. I would venture that said case of bottled water will still be full up when the child graduates from college, and has kids of his own. -Chuck Harris ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsub

Re: [time-nuts] Thunderbolt stability and ambient temperature

2009-06-10 Thread Chuck Harris
W/sq-meter. -Chuck Harris ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.

Re: [time-nuts] Thunderbolt stability and ambient temperature

2009-06-10 Thread Chuck Harris
, but water is so much easier to find, and easier to package, plus it has a great storage capability. -Chuck Harris ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow

Re: [time-nuts] FE-5680A heat sink

2009-06-08 Thread Chuck Harris
eration in a civilized area, it is easier just to try a simple experiment. -Chuck Harris Leigh L. Klotz, Jr WA5ZNU wrote: Chuck, This device is a pull from a larger system, probably a cell site. It's clearly designed to be mounted on something, as it has lots and lots of holes around the edge.

Re: [time-nuts] FE-5680A heat sink

2009-06-08 Thread Chuck Harris
Hi Poul, I have long espoused that one should never attribute to malice that which can be more easily explained by ignorance. So, I didn't believe malice was involved. I just found your post curious, that's all. I'm pretty sure that mornings should be banned. -Chuck Harris

Re: [time-nuts] FE-5680A heat sink

2009-06-08 Thread Chuck Harris
e? -Chuck Harris Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: In message <4a2cfce2.5020...@erols.com>, Chuck Harris writes: I ran the device today for about half an hour, and used an infrared sensing thermometer to measure the external case temperature. Be very careful about trusting this: you need t

Re: [time-nuts] FE-5680A heat sink

2009-06-08 Thread Chuck Harris
cs run hot. What did the manufacturer suggest? -Chuck Harris Leigh L. Klotz, Jr WA5ZNU wrote: I've attached an SMA connector to my FE-5680A and built an external linear power supply with a TO-3 7815. I ran the device today for about half an hour, and used an infrared sensing thermometer

Re: [time-nuts] Austron 2100

2009-05-29 Thread Chuck Harris
num tubing... copper would do fine, as would steel. There is one turn of 5 conductor antenna rotor cable inside of the loop. -Chuck Harris Claude Houde wrote: Hello ! Here is a follow up on my previous thread on the Austron 2100F. After getting the unit I found out that the power supply is de

Re: [time-nuts] Time Signals on TV signals

2009-05-25 Thread Chuck Harris
Hi Bill, I have no direct knowledge of the situation, but I have noticed that in my area the time signals seem to piggyback on the PBS stations, and in my area many of the PBS stations have ditched their analog signals earlier than the FCC mandate for digital TV. -Chuck Harris Bill Hawkins

Re: [time-nuts] HP 5370A socket problem

2009-05-19 Thread Chuck Harris
find the 5370B has the same exact sockets too. Double sided boards are a treat to work on with desoldering equipment. Multilayer boards suck up so much heat that they are a real problem. It helps to cook them on an IR preheater for a while before removing parts. -Chuck Harris Didier wrote: Hi

Re: [time-nuts] 5370B Designer Dave Chu retires from Agilent

2009-05-19 Thread Chuck Harris
I second that suggestion! -Chuck Harris Jim Palfreyman wrote: Now he has some time (hah!) on his hands...get him to join our group!! 2009/5/20 John Miles Not to mention his work with the 5345A, another perennial favorite around here. /raises beer -- john, KE5FX -Original Message

Re: [time-nuts] HP 5370A socket problem

2009-05-19 Thread Chuck Harris
27;t think it is all *that* special. I have seen the same TI sockets used on so many different instruments --I would bet more than half the stuff in my shop has them-- They seem to work more often than not. -Chuck Harris Didier wrote: One is S/N 2128A01306 and the other is S/N 2213A01361, so

Re: [time-nuts] HP 5370B vs SR620

2009-05-19 Thread Chuck Harris
t is up to the task. It was a major disappointment when the 5370A turned out to be working well, and in specification. Hopefully it will drift out so I can put in the differential linearity modification, and calibrate the beast... in the mean time I will just use it. -Chuck Harris John Miles wro

Re: [time-nuts] HP 5370B vs SR620

2009-05-19 Thread Chuck Harris
There is an interesting application note on the differential linearity issue. Apparently the problem was found by a Tektronix engineer, and HP provided a correction to fix the problem in the 5370A. That correction, I believe, is available on Bama. -Chuck Harris Pete wrote: Roy, The 5370s

Re: [time-nuts] HP 5370B vs SR620

2009-05-19 Thread Chuck Harris
a more capable input section than the A. There is a difference, but the specifications remain the same. I was told that the difference made manufacture of the 5370B easier. Probably less need to select parts. -Chuck Harris ___ time-nuts mailing list -

Re: [time-nuts] HP 5370B vs SR620

2009-05-19 Thread Chuck Harris
haps the series your unit came from. -Chuck Harris Didier Juges wrote: The HP catalog lists the 5370A as capable of 6000 readings/sec in binary mode, the 5370B is listed as capable of 8000/sec, probably as a result of a slightly faster processor. Not a significant difference, but there

Re: [time-nuts] HP 5370B vs SR620

2009-05-19 Thread Chuck Harris
ts data on HPIB just as fast as the 5370B. The only difference between the A and B model is they combined the CPU, RAM and ROM cards into one, and they made some changes to the circuitry to make manufacture easier. -Chuck Harris ___ time-nuts maili

Re: [time-nuts] FreeBSD, NetBSD, or Minix-III?

2009-05-16 Thread Chuck Harris
or a monolithic kernel. -Chuck Harris ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.

Re: [time-nuts] FreeBSD, NetBSD, or Minix-III?

2009-05-16 Thread Chuck Harris
a software radio that uses RTEMS, do the critical timing stuff in hardware, and the software just manages the hardware. That's fine, as long as the critical timing stuff never has to pass into code space. If it does, then you are stuck with the OS's latency is

Re: [time-nuts] FreeBSD, NetBSD, or Minix-III?

2009-05-16 Thread Chuck Harris
the kernel function be small, and be the only "root" task. Everything else is pushed out into "user" land. You do the work in the kernel, or you do the work outside of the kernel, but you still have to do the work, and that takes code. -Chuck Harris ___

Re: [time-nuts] FreeBSD, NetBSD, or Minix-III?

2009-05-16 Thread Chuck Harris
Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: In message <4a0ebdee.2020...@erols.com>, Chuck Harris writes: A "watch" isn't exactly a challenge to an operating system. Well, no. But figuring out correct handling of time is a challenge for operating system programmers. Very true... I

Re: [time-nuts] FreeBSD, NetBSD, or Minix-III?

2009-05-16 Thread Chuck Harris
Bob Paddock wrote: On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 9:21 AM, Chuck Harris wrote: Bob Paddock wrote: Anyone ever look at Minix-III (Minix-I was the progenitor to Linux)? Seems like it would be easy to make a decent time server, on embedded hardware with it. Past iterations of the Minix-III website

Re: [time-nuts] FreeBSD, NetBSD, or Minix-III?

2009-05-16 Thread Chuck Harris
t to power. Why do you think Minix-III would be a good candidate for a time server? A "watch" isn't exactly a challenge to an operating system. -Chuck Harris ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www

Re: [time-nuts] OFF TOPIC... Seiko Digital Watch

2009-05-12 Thread Chuck Harris
Hi again Didier, For some examples of really cheap Chinese movements that would fit in your watch, look at the julesborel site under Miyota. They have some in the $11 range. -Chuck Harris Chuck Harris wrote: Hi Didier, My usual source is: http://www.julesborel.com/ Follow the menu to the

Re: [time-nuts] OFF TOPIC... Seiko Digital Watch

2009-05-12 Thread Chuck Harris
;s, Heuers, etc. for service at their respective factory authorized repair facilities, and having them come back with quartz movements. It is much cheaper and easier to do that than to service a watch. For most people, that isn't a problem, because all the watch meant to them is wrist jewelry.

Re: [time-nuts] OFF TOPIC... Seiko Digital Watch

2009-05-12 Thread Chuck Harris
you might actually get a real Seiko movement put back in your watch, but most of the time, you will get a Chinese knockoff movement that they will glue to the back of your dial. -Chuck Harris As a watchmaker, you can't even open the case for $70. Didier Juges wrote: My favorite Seiko watches al

Re: [time-nuts] Hacker News link

2009-05-08 Thread Chuck Harris
Hi Magnus, Which biography are you reading? The last one I read was by Walter Isaacson. It was a very good story of a very odd man. -Chuck Harris Magnus Danielson wrote: Tom Van Baak skrev: One of our very own got noticed today on Hacker News: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=598090

Re: [time-nuts] OT: Verilog/VHDL discussion list created...

2009-04-16 Thread Chuck Harris
as a requirement for issuing your license, there are elements that can get that too. Talk about giving out personal information! -Chuck Harris I tolerate participating in a few "yahoo groups" only because I can get limited functionality (no access to archives) by just using the list

Re: [time-nuts] OT: Verilog/VHDL discussion list created...

2009-04-16 Thread Chuck Harris
000 other services. What google did to usenet is provide a portal that spammers find easy to use. AOL did the same thing... and so did a host of other ISP's. -Chuck Harris ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https:

Re: [time-nuts] OT: Verilog/VHDL discussion list created...

2009-04-14 Thread Chuck Harris
addresses, and other things. At one point they let you have the email addresses if you were logged in as a google user. I don't use google's deja interface anymore, so I don't know what they do now. -Chuck Harris John Miles wrote: >> Google didn't do anything to usenet. Th

Re: [time-nuts] OT: Verilog/VHDL discussion list created...

2009-04-14 Thread Chuck Harris
ause of the success of yahoo groups, and google groups, and partly because of the risk of hosting any child pornography that might be passed along on usenet. -Chuck Harris ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.

Re: [time-nuts] Hadamard variance

2009-04-10 Thread Chuck Harris
have also lots of memories concerning these > times. > > Neverthelesss it is truly NOT the tool that I use today. Really? I ditched my newer calculators, and my HP67 is the only calculator I use now. If I need more power, I use a computer. -Chuck Harris __

Re: [time-nuts] OT favorite chip programmer/favorite ROM emulator

2009-04-10 Thread Chuck Harris
o fast PC's, so there might be a need to buy an older throttled down PC to host your Advin programmer. -Chuck Harris > > Bad news is a refurbed Unisite will set you back $25,000 plus the cost of > socket adapters and software. Good news is > with a little shopping around on Eb

Re: [time-nuts] Need Austron 2110 manual

2009-04-03 Thread Chuck Harris
Try PRC68.com Skip Withrow wrote: > Hello Time-Nuts, > > I am in need of a manual for the Austron 2110 Disciplined Frequency > Standard. Anyone have an electronic copy? I have already tried KO4BB's > site and BAMA. > > I would be more than happy to pay shipping so that I could copy/scan a

Re: [time-nuts] P word in my mails

2009-04-01 Thread Chuck Harris
Mike Naruta AA8K wrote: > Not to worry Ulrich, he was using a form > of derisive humor. He was insulting Prologix > as undesirable. Surely, you jest! He was complaining about PASCAL. A really bad word among those forced to use it. -Chu

Re: [time-nuts] Prologix

2009-04-01 Thread Chuck Harris
Steve Rooke wrote: > This man said the P word without any form of apology :-) I know, and I am still shaking from the thought of it! Anybody got a wooden stake? -Chuck Harris >> >> It uses an easy to learn PASCAL like script language that yo

Re: [time-nuts] Austron 2100F

2009-04-01 Thread Chuck Harris
heir CMOS (2.5V) threshold levels, and could only work at lower temperatures. Bah! -Chuck Harris christopher hoover wrote: > Chuck Harris wrote: > >> They can be very hard to fix, because there is some really poorly designed >> logic circuitry, and the signature analysis functio

Re: [time-nuts] Austron 2100F

2009-03-31 Thread Chuck Harris
g receiver. The F is virtually identical... using the same PC boards, just populated less fully. -Chuck Harris Claude Houde wrote: > Hello ! > > I'm new to the list and I have been offered an Austron 2100F receiver at > a good price. > > Before jumping in, I have a two quest

Re: [time-nuts] 5062C

2009-03-25 Thread Chuck Harris
Great! Keep plugging! -Chuck Harris Scott McGrath wrote: > HI, Chuck > > Not dead - just too busy at the office we spoke and scanning is > proceeding albeit slowly > > On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 4:12 PM, Chuck Harris wrote: >> Speaking of such things, has anybody

Re: [time-nuts] OT: Basics of voltage calibration? Fluke manual 5200A

2009-03-22 Thread Chuck Harris
d any of them. And I scanned through the lists they had for the various instrument types without success. Apparently you have found a better area to look. -Chuck Harris Dr. Frank Stellmach wrote: > Chuck, > > I just have found the 5200A manual & addendum here: > > http://u

Re: [time-nuts] OT: Basics of voltage calibration?

2009-03-22 Thread Chuck Harris
accurate DC calibrators and > standards, and to my biggest pleasure, they recently scanned all manuals > of actual and outdated devices. All is perhaps a little too inclusive. They haven't scanned a single Fluke instrument from my lab. To w

Re: [time-nuts] 5062C

2009-03-11 Thread Chuck Harris
Speaking of such things, has anybody heard from Scott McGrath, ? He borrowed my 5065A manual many months ago, to scan, but hasn't returned it, and doesn't reply to emails. I would sure like to get it back, and make it available to others that wanted to borrow it. -Chuck Harris Co

Re: [time-nuts] GPS antenna installation problem

2009-03-04 Thread Chuck Harris
I know. Did you read my post? -Chuck Harris Stan W1LE wrote: > Actually it is "duct" tape. > > Used to air seal the metal joints in a metal duct work system for heat > and AC. > > New building codes require a mastic paint be applied over all metal > join

Re: [time-nuts] GPS antenna installation problem

2009-03-04 Thread Chuck Harris
o make sense out of what they hear. -Chuck Harris ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.

Re: [time-nuts] Lady Heather question serial error

2009-02-21 Thread Chuck Harris
m the linux users, there is no other way of knowing how many of us are out there. Estimates put us at around 29 million. -Chuck Harris ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ti

Re: [time-nuts] Wenzel Oscillator Repair

2009-01-21 Thread Chuck Harris
e cover as quickly as possible. With preheat you can move leisurely, and use a small iron, or hot air gun, to provide the additional calories needed to melt the solder. Preheat is best by a long shot. Try it and I am sure you will agree. -Chuck Harris Joseph M Gwinn wrote: > Chuck, > >

Re: [time-nuts] Wenzel Oscillator Repair

2009-01-21 Thread Chuck Harris
ed to make the solder melt. The net result is usually so nice that you cannot even tell the foam has even been heated. -Chuck Harris > > I think we are talking about different things. For getting chips off a > big multilayer board, preheat plus hot air is a standard way to go, but we

Re: [time-nuts] Wenzel Oscillator Repair

2009-01-19 Thread Chuck Harris
comes apart. None the worse for the wear. -Chuck Harris ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.

Re: [time-nuts] Off Topic question...

2009-01-19 Thread Chuck Harris
Steve, This sort of ignorant commentary comes up in discussion with otherwise reasonable folks so often that it really isn't funny anymore. -Chuck Harris Steve Rooke wrote: > Wow! Just because I forgot the :-) > > Maybe I should have added, leave you sense of humor at home!

Re: [time-nuts] Off Topic question...

2009-01-19 Thread Chuck Harris
. UK tourists are at an extra disadvantage because their training from birth tells them to look the wrong way for US traffic. They look to the right for curb lane traffic, and get hit from the left. -Chuck Harris Steve Rooke wrote: > How about: > > Rabies shots. > Body armor. > Loa

Re: [time-nuts] Leap Quirks

2009-01-04 Thread Chuck Harris
Magnus Danielson wrote: > Chuck Harris skrev: >> One of us is confused about what time_t is... I think it is >> you. > > I know of three different ways to interpret it. They fit different purposes. > >> time_t is a 32 bit (depreciated), or 64 bit integer that con

Re: [time-nuts] Leap Quirks

2009-01-04 Thread Chuck Harris
Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > In message <4960027e.1000...@erols.com>, Chuck Harris writes: >> Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > >>>> Ok, that is news to me. Are you saying that (pulling a number out of >>>> the air) time_t = 21120123 could be followed by 211

Re: [time-nuts] Leap Quirks

2009-01-04 Thread Chuck Harris
is a library function in most unixes that translates the leap second free time_t into the leap second adjusted UTC. Again, are you telling me that time_t is getting adjusted for leap seconds? If so, when did this change? -Chuck Harris Magnus Danielson wrote: > Chuck Harris skrev: >

Re: [time-nuts] Leap Quirks

2009-01-03 Thread Chuck Harris
Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > In message <495fd637.5030...@erols.com>, Chuck Harris writes: > >> Ok, that is news to me. Are you saying that (pulling a number out of >> the air) time_t = 21120123 could be followed by 21120123 on a year where >> we added a leap seco

Re: [time-nuts] Leap Quirks

2009-01-03 Thread Chuck Harris
n 1/1/1970... without regard for leap seconds. I was of the understanding that the problem was in how the UTC time was calculated from time_t, and the converse. Do tell! -Chuck Harris ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.

Re: [time-nuts] Leap Quirks

2009-01-03 Thread Chuck Harris
M. Warner Losh wrote: > In message: > James Cloos writes: > : >>>>> "Chuck" == Chuck Harris writes: > : > : Chuck> The message implies that linux clocks counted: > : > : Chuck> 58..59..60..00..01 > : > : Chuck> Wh

Re: [time-nuts] Leap Quirks

2009-01-03 Thread Chuck Harris
e implies that linux clocks counted: 58..59..60..00..01 Which would not be the POSIX way. -Chuck Harris ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.

Re: [time-nuts] Lady Heather's Leap Log

2009-01-01 Thread Chuck Harris
. They chose instead to reinvent the wheel, and ignore most of the advances that came before them. They still do. -Chuck Harris ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.

Re: [time-nuts] Need schoolin PPM vs E to the umth?

2008-12-31 Thread Chuck Harris
Bruce Griffiths wrote: > Chuck > > Chuck Harris wrote: >> n3...@aol.com wrote: >> >>> So can any one bring it down a few clicks and explain the accuracy thing to >>> this balding hippie? >>> >>> I'm leaning towards ham radi

Re: [time-nuts] Need schoolin PPM vs E to the umth?

2008-12-31 Thread Chuck Harris
mportant, and you start to talk of things like Allen-Variances. -Chuck Harris > > Hope this doesn't start to much controversy on the board. > > 73 Chris > > > > ___ time-nuts mailing list -- > time-nuts@febo.com To uns

Re: [time-nuts] New topics (was Re: He isaTime-Nut Troublemaker....)

2008-12-29 Thread Chuck Harris
t use would it be? -Chuck Harris Didier wrote: > I think you will get a narrow (how narrow will depend on how close they are > in frequency and how many there are) band of noise centered around 10 MHz. > > Didier ___ time-nuts mailing

Re: [time-nuts] New topics (was Re: He isaTime-Nut Troublemaker....)

2008-12-29 Thread Chuck Harris
Didier, I wonder what would happen if you took N, uncorrelated and well isolated, 10 MHz sources and added them together? -Chuck Harris > > The cost in complexity for combining oscillators is much more significant > than for amplifiers. Amplifiers only need phase matching (electrical

Re: [time-nuts] How are you going to spend your extra second?

2008-12-29 Thread Chuck Harris
lated messages. -Chuck Harris Jim Palfreyman wrote: > Well it seems to work quite well in Australia. > > 2008/12/29 Chuck Harris > >> Jim Palfreyman wrote: >>> I suppose it's "nuts" is it to want to live in a society where there a >> very >>&

Re: [time-nuts] How are you going to spend your extra second?

2008-12-28 Thread Chuck Harris
s to believe that a very few guns in the hands of the police will make you safe. The police, just like everybody else are prone to being human. They are also prone to having their possessions (guns) stolen. > > I like living in a society like that and I find

Re: [time-nuts] New topics (was Re: He is aTime-Nut Troublemaker....)

2008-12-24 Thread Chuck Harris
er is going to add up as some fractional power giving you a net improvement in signal to noise... probably close to 3dB, but not quite 3dB... I just don't remember anymore. -Chuck Harris Didier wrote: > Chuck, > > I am quite familiar with how to calculate a voltage or power ratio in

Re: [time-nuts] How are you going to spend your extra second?

2008-12-24 Thread Chuck Harris
Really? I would think it would make the papers... but for some reason, it doesn't. -Chuck Harris Mark Sims wrote: > Unfortunately, in many US cities, getting shot on New Years is an all too > common occurance. Knuckle dragging idiots celebrate with lots of booze, > ammunition

Re: [time-nuts] New topics (was Re: He is a Time-Nut Troublemaker....)

2008-12-24 Thread Chuck Harris
io. 2) Convention says that if -dB's are loss, and +dB's are gain, but that is just convention. -Chuck Harris ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.

Re: [time-nuts] He is a Time-Nut Troublemaker....

2008-12-23 Thread Chuck Harris
David M. Witten II wrote: > Points of pride, I'm sure. ABSOLUTELY! Freedom was born of guns. Tyrants are never willing to give it to you without a fight. -Chuck Harris > > -- Dave > > Chuck Harris wrote: >> And for the ham time-nuts, Hiram Percy Maxim's fathe

Re: [time-nuts] He is a Time-Nut Troublemaker....

2008-12-22 Thread Chuck Harris
And for the ham time-nuts, Hiram Percy Maxim's father invented the Maxim machine gun. Hiram Percy Maxim invented the firearm silencer. -Chuck Harris Brooke Clarke wrote: > Hi: > > The original Time Nut, Alfred Loomis (book: Tuxedo Park) patented: > > 1435073 Gun Mount &

Re: [time-nuts] He is a Time-Nut Troublemaker....

2008-12-22 Thread Chuck Harris
of me figure out how I could have gotten that impression from what you wrote... Sorry! -Chuck Harris Bruce Griffiths wrote: > I've remembered that I was originally looking for DD Maksutov's article > on his catadioptric telescope published in 1944. > Consequently I had a look

Re: [time-nuts] He is a Time-Nut Troublemaker....

2008-12-22 Thread Chuck Harris
pe to adjust the adjustible iron sights. The WWII records on the M1 Carbine talk of the same technique. -Chuck Harris Bruce Griffiths wrote: > Mark Sims wrote: >> I got to play with a custom .50 BMG that shoots meaningful groups at 1500 >> meters... the maker's definition of

Re: [time-nuts] TBolt deliveries from Oct 19 announcement of group buy

2008-12-20 Thread Chuck Harris
at it doesn't take longer. Smile! You will get your t-bolt. -Chuck Harris Robert Harmon wrote: > On Oct 19, I saw on this list an announcement from Tom Van Baak mentioning > another group buy of the TBolt: > > > >> Message: 6 > >> Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008

Re: [time-nuts] Thunderbolt settings -- one more time

2008-12-01 Thread Chuck Harris
Hi Dick, The T-Bolt is designed to be a turn key system, and is already set up for the best operation the factory knew how to achieve. I doubt that anyone has spent much time diddling the time constants. -Chuck Harris Richard Moore wrote: > Dear nuts -- > > Let me see if I can ask

Re: [time-nuts] any way to bootstrap a frequency standard into a voltage or resistance standard?

2008-11-27 Thread Chuck Harris
lt is defined in terms of a JJ excited by a particular frequency. Now what we need is a TAPR priced JJ array. -Chuck Harris Scott Burris wrote: > Now that many of us have a nice 10Mhz reference courtesy of TAPR, > I was wondering if there was any way to use that to build a precise > voltage

Re: [time-nuts] US Shipping Was huntron tracker advice

2008-11-27 Thread Chuck Harris
the case with a number of sellers sadly. If you have ever been on the other side of an ITAR investigation, you would rightly conclude that it isn't safe to do anything other than scrap and destroy US surplus materials... which is precisely what they want you to do. -Chuck Harris

Re: [time-nuts] Fwd: M12+T ASCII interface - I'm confused?

2008-11-20 Thread Chuck Harris
lt;@><@><@>... As I understand it, they use a byte stuff code, where any of the "special" bytes must be doubled if they are in the data And, there must be a data area length check or you could get into some truly pathological situations. -Chuck Harris

Re: [time-nuts] Fine delay generator (Tim Shoppa)

2008-11-13 Thread Chuck Harris
ed to drive a 3-phase synchro that ran the speedometer (in the front of the bus). -Chuck Harris ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.

Re: [time-nuts] Tektronix Type 602 manual

2008-11-07 Thread Chuck Harris
is what I need. > The only dowside is that the 602 expects wide range of signals. A pair of > simple audio frequency gain stages would solve that. > > However, currently I am lacking the dot on the screen to begin with. Power > lines seems OKish but could be trimmed.

Re: [time-nuts] Time-zones and World time..

2008-10-30 Thread Chuck Harris
midnight can only be estimated. -Chuck Harris David C. Partridge wrote: > Local Solar Time noon would still be 12:00:00. > > If I remember correctly, the one that has noon as 00:00:00 is Astronomical > time (e.g. GMAT). > > Cheers > Dave > -Original Message- > From

Re: [time-nuts] Time-zones and World time..

2008-10-30 Thread Chuck Harris
David Forbes wrote: > At 9:42 AM -0400 10/30/08, Chuck Harris wrote: >> With the great ease of computers to make the transformations, >> there really isn't any point in removing local timezones. It >> is just a table after all... it is nothing like the old days when >

Re: [time-nuts] Time-zones and World time..

2008-10-30 Thread Chuck Harris
t did the study said the number of heart attacks drops 5% for the 7 days after the US changes from DST to standard time, and spikes on the Monday we go back to DST. I expect that the daily risk will be found to shift with the change in the DST date. -Chuck Harris _

Re: [time-nuts] Time-zones and World time..

2008-10-30 Thread Chuck Harris
Bruce Griffiths wrote: > Chuck Harris wrote: ... >> >> It was recently reported that the onset of DST coincides with an >> increase in heart attacks, and the return to standard time coincides >> with a decrease in heart attacks. Yet another reason to ditch >> Da

Re: [time-nuts] Time-zones and World time..

2008-10-30 Thread Chuck Harris
heart attacks, and the return to standard time coincides with a decrease in heart attacks. Yet another reason to ditch Daylight Savings Time. -Chuck Harris Steve Rooke wrote: > Hi, > > I've been under the radar for a while so have not been able to keep up > with the threads I w

Re: [time-nuts] Oncore, Trimble Antennae

2008-10-22 Thread Chuck Harris
y your design. That is what the design review process is all about. I have never had to justify a design to an accountant. I have never met the accountant that could design circuitry. Kind of like an engineer framing houses... no, wait, I do that. -Chuck Harris

Re: [time-nuts] Oncore, Trimble Antennae

2008-10-22 Thread Chuck Harris
sold as a product by themselves, and there were a lot of receivers that used them. I think motorola and others thought of them as universal devices but I also think they thought of them as disposable, so it isn't clear that they cared if you burned one out by misapplication. I have a spa

Re: [time-nuts] Oncore, Trimble Antennae

2008-10-22 Thread Chuck Harris
Lux, James P wrote: > > > On 10/21/08 9:31 PM, "Chuck Harris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Tom Van Baak wrote: >>>> Both the Trimble and Motorola modules use active antennae with 5V power >>>> - what I don't know is whether they

Re: [time-nuts] Oncore, Trimble Antennae

2008-10-22 Thread Chuck Harris
Steve Rooke wrote: > 2008/10/23 Chuck Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> Matthew Smith wrote: >>> Quoth Chuck Harris at 2008-10-22 15:01... >>> >>>>> I'd be interested to know if any antennas are in fact the other >>>>> way around

Re: [time-nuts] Oncore, Trimble Antennae

2008-10-22 Thread Chuck Harris
Matthew Smith wrote: > Quoth Chuck Harris at 2008-10-22 15:01... > >>> I'd be interested to know if any antennas are in fact the other >>> way around. Never even considered that. >> It would have been fairly trivial for them to put a bridge rectifier &g

Re: [time-nuts] Oncore, Trimble Antennae

2008-10-21 Thread Chuck Harris
know if any antennas are in fact the other > way around. Never even considered that. It would have been fairly trivial for them to put a bridge rectifier before the amplifier's power stuff, allowing for either polarity. I always try to do that kind of thing (when I can) in my de

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