Re: [time-nuts] Mounting GPS Antenna on Steel Roof

2008-03-04 Thread Jack Hudler
I use a Fiber Optic Antenna Link FOL-100 from Truetime. However, I don't know of anything else out there does something similar. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matthew Smith Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 3:36 AM To: Discussion of precise

Re: [time-nuts] GPS-Attached Equipment Lightning Protection

2008-03-01 Thread Jack Hudler
I found a site that has some great links on grounding. http://www.n0hr.com/hamradio/152/10/ham_radio0.htm the link to Choices and consequences of station lightning protection http://members.cox.net/pc-usa/station/ground0.htm is most excellent. I have implemented this (right down to common

Re: [time-nuts] The Original Time Nut

2008-02-22 Thread Jack Hudler
Nova also did a show on him. Vaguely remember the title Search for Longitude. Try WGBH at pbs.org -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brooke Clarke Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 3:36 PM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency

Re: [time-nuts] The Original Time Nut

2008-02-22 Thread Jack Hudler
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/longitude/ ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.

Re: [time-nuts] favorite microcontroller module?

2008-02-21 Thread Jack Hudler
Ah what I wouldn't give for a old TI 99xx BLWP (Bullwhip) Branch and Load Workspace Pointer... NOT! ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the

Re: [time-nuts] Allan variance Vs Plain Old Accuracy

2008-02-14 Thread Jack Hudler
Steady boys and girls... This discussion would be fun however, I get the feeling it would only supply a marketing department with more copy. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to

Re: [time-nuts] FW: sync computer clock ticks

2008-01-04 Thread Jack Hudler
I use a Truetime NTS-100 for my NTP server. Just scanned my network of Windows machines at home, all using MS NTP Client. 3-Vista, 2-2003 Server, 1-XPSP2. Worst 11 ms, average variance is 2ms. Jack -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Keith

Re: [time-nuts] GIMP VS PhotoShop

2007-12-28 Thread Jack Hudler
Well it can get rid of that nasty nose hair on that favorite photo, or replace that lazy eye with one from the other side :). -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Magnus Danielson Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 8:01 AM To: time-nuts@febo.com

Re: [time-nuts] Upgrading possibilities for more accurate, precise stable mark ii

2007-12-28 Thread Jack Hudler
other suggestions? Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 21:25:14 -0600 From: Jack Hudler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Upgrading possibilities for more accurate, precise stable mark ii To: 'Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement' time-nuts@febo.com Message-ID

Re: [time-nuts] OT: Hewlett Packard paint codes

2007-12-27 Thread Jack Hudler
John, LOL, I was busy today doing just that! Took an image of the IT8/7 target, printed it, scanning it in and then using a color 'curves' in PhotoShop to adjust the scanned image to the correct RGB values. Did it in 2 passes and by god it worked spot on every time. RGB

Re: [time-nuts] OT: Hewlett Packard paint codes

2007-12-26 Thread Jack Hudler
/WebCam2.shtml 24/7 Sky-Weather-Astronomy Cam Jack Hudler wrote: Way off topic: I know we have a few Ex-HP employee's here, so this is a long shot. But I would like to know the what paint was used by HP and there color values or codes. I know they vary slightly from one lot/day/month/year

Re: [time-nuts] OT: Hewlett Packard paint codes

2007-12-26 Thread Jack Hudler
This assumes you have a calibrated scanner and a calibrated printer. I don't have an IT8.7 target or its equivalent to calibrate the scanner. Perhaps I should start there heck I'll just try and match it by eye. Jack -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL

Re: [time-nuts] OT: Hewlett Packard paint codes

2007-12-26 Thread Jack Hudler
OOPS... once I loaded the right ICC profile for the scanner and the printer it all works very nicely now. Several orders of magnitude better! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of phil Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2007 4:59 PM To: Discussion of

[time-nuts] OT: Hewlett Packard paint codes

2007-12-25 Thread Jack Hudler
Way off topic: I know we have a few Ex-HP employee's here, so this is a long shot. But I would like to know the what paint was used by HP and there color values or codes. I know they vary slightly from one lot/day/month/year to the next. The reason I ask is, I'm completely redoing a couple

Re: [time-nuts] ** SPAM ** Re: Re: Bruce's link

2007-12-15 Thread Jack Hudler
Boy that's a religious issue if I ever heard one! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rob Kimberley Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 11:42 AM To: 'Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement' Subject: Re: [time-nuts] ** SPAM ** Re:

Re: [time-nuts] Upgrading possibilities for more accurate, precise stable mark ii

2007-12-15 Thread Jack Hudler
If you have a porch or balcony, just drilled a 1/4 inch hole through the edge of the sliding door frame to handle an external antenna. Hide the wire in the carpet edge or behind the baseboard. When you leave just caulk up the holes and no one's the wiser. Most of the time (well the ones I lived

Re: [time-nuts] Administrivia: The Spam Button

2007-11-10 Thread Jack Hudler
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY Curious... did it cost you anything to sign up for this white list? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Ackermann N8UR Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2007 5:35 PM To:

Re: [time-nuts] ALERT, WA State: Boeing Surplus Closing...

2007-09-30 Thread Jack Hudler
Not to be too blunt... but if I don't live near the Boeing Surplus store, why should I care? Better solution would be to have them put it up on eBay for all to see and for Boeing to benefit. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To

Re: [time-nuts] 10811A

2007-09-17 Thread Jack Hudler
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY Mike, I've got the time right now (job hunting) to scan it in a non-destructive fashion. Though cutting off the back will make scanning easier, it might be possible to re-bind it. Some places like Kinko's have

Re: [time-nuts] 10811A

2007-09-14 Thread Jack Hudler
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY http://www.hparchive.com/Manuals/HP-10811AB-Manual.pdf ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to

Re: [time-nuts] 10811A

2007-09-14 Thread Jack Hudler
time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] 10811A On Fri, 14 Sep 2007 11:19:21 -0500, Jack Hudler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.hparchive.com/Manuals/HP-10811AB-Manual.pdf Also: http://www.febo.com/time-freq/hardware/HP10811-Specs.pdf

[time-nuts] OT: You know your getting old when...

2007-09-06 Thread Jack Hudler
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY When you find yourself writing 80 KC instead of 80 KHz. Jack ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to

Re: [time-nuts] OT: You know your getting old when...

2007-09-06 Thread Jack Hudler
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY LOL!!! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Maynard Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 3:20 PM To: 'Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement' Subject: Re:

Re: [time-nuts] OT: You know your getting old when...

2007-09-06 Thread Jack Hudler
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY Sure sign of dyslexia :-) I heard that!!! :) ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and

Re: [time-nuts] Timing on Ethernet

2007-08-04 Thread Jack Hudler
on Ethernet From: Jack Hudler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [time-nuts] Timing on Ethernet Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2007 20:57:12 -0500 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks Magnus, I guess I was dating myself :). Jack, no worries! :-) Pablo, is this going to be used for timing throughout the entire

Re: [time-nuts] Timing on Ethernet

2007-08-04 Thread Jack Hudler
measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Timing on Ethernet Thinking outside the square What you need is a low frequency transmitter exactly in the middle of the ring... Neville Michie On 05/08/2007, at 5:01 AM, Jack Hudler wrote: I was thinking of timing protocol only without any Ethernet

Re: [time-nuts] Timing on Ethernet

2007-08-04 Thread Jack Hudler
Tell me your in the Dallas area and need help! -Original Message- From: Magnus Danielson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2007 7:31 PM To: time-nuts@febo.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Timing on Ethernet Well, guess what I do for a living... Cheers,

Re: [time-nuts] Timing on Ethernet

2007-08-03 Thread Jack Hudler
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY One thing that comes to mind, though I may be missing something here. Ethernet is CDMA/CA; would you not loose phase lock during a collision because of a corrupted carrier? ___

Re: [time-nuts] Timing on Ethernet

2007-08-03 Thread Jack Hudler
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY Thanks Magnus, I guess I was dating myself :). Pablo, is this going to be used for timing throughout the entire CERN site or just instrumentation on 27km LHC? If it's just the LHC then what about using an open fiber/copper

Re: [time-nuts] Time may not exist

2007-07-27 Thread Jack Hudler
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Rich people generally live longer because they do 'rich people' stuff... Live below there means, save, don't use credit; which reduces stress. Poor people on the other hand, do 'poor people' stuff, like run up credit cards, borrow

Re: [time-nuts] Cs stability

2007-07-16 Thread Jack Hudler
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Who was it that said; every clock is a thermometer? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dr Bruce Griffiths Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 8:31 PM To: Tom Van Baak; Discussion of

Re: [time-nuts] Administrivia -- AOL and the Spam Button

2007-06-29 Thread Jack Hudler
No to make too light of the situation; isn't being on AOL's ban list a badge of honor? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Ackermann N8UR Sent: Friday, June 29, 2007 8:54 PM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement

Re: [time-nuts] another Ebay mixup

2007-06-09 Thread Jack Hudler
Like $100 for 5370B and the only thing wrong was the oscillator switch set to EXTernal. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Feher Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2007 5:33 PM To: 'Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement' Subject:

Re: [time-nuts] Galileo funding (bailout)

2007-06-08 Thread Jack Hudler
On the positive side: there could be some very nice stuff on the surplus market post-mortem. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jason Rabel Sent: Friday, June 08, 2007 7:56 PM To: 'Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement'

Re: [time-nuts] Z3801A Antenna

2007-06-03 Thread Jack Hudler
That why I snatched up a FOL-100 on eBay some years ago. This extends the antenna using a fiber optic link and the antenna is power from a solar cell/battery setup. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, June 03,

Re: [time-nuts] Oscillator Hookup

2007-05-23 Thread Jack Hudler
Try this; http://www.hparchive.com/Manuals/HP-10811AB-Manual.pdf -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Arnold Tibus Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 9:30 AM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Oscillator

Re: [time-nuts] Kode 375-928 Display - Help!

2007-05-23 Thread Jack Hudler
It might be RS-485 and so multiple displaies could have its own address on a multidrop setup. About the only trick there is finding out if its 2 or 4 wire 485 (probably 2 because of the address). Think I've seen some USB to 485 converters on the market, but you might get away with driving it with

Re: [time-nuts] NTP problem on Windows

2007-05-17 Thread Jack Hudler
Nicely said! Beats my caustic thoughts! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joseph Gray Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 12:35 AM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] NTP problem on Windows I use Linux

Re: [time-nuts] Scanning darkly

2007-05-14 Thread Jack Hudler
? thanks, BillWB6BNQ Jack Hudler wrote: Try scanning at 300 DPI grayscale (400 max, anything more is a waste). Do not use the histogram or descreening functions in your scanner software unless you spent some serious dollars. All descreening really does is increase the actual

Re: [time-nuts] Scanning darkly

2007-05-14 Thread Jack Hudler
You'd get the same results in the end, only now you've added projection reconstruction. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Palfreyman, Jim L Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 12:44 AM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject:

Re: [time-nuts] Scanning darkly

2007-05-13 Thread Jack Hudler
Try scanning at 300 DPI grayscale (400 max, anything more is a waste). Do not use the histogram or descreening functions in your scanner software unless you spent some serious dollars. All descreening really does is increase the actual scanning resolution up to 2 times what you asked for

Re: [time-nuts] NTP Synchronised Nixie Tube Clock

2007-05-08 Thread Jack Hudler
Well that's a crock! I had my one and only Nixie tube clock doing that back in 2001 using a basic stamp and hack together Ethernet module. Talked to an NTS-100's configuration port at first then found the Ethernet module. It has since met its demise and I'm sure I wasn't the first either.

Re: [time-nuts] NTP Synchronised Nixie Tube Clock

2007-05-08 Thread Jack Hudler
Now that's a thing of beauty It just went on my list of things to have before I die!!! :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Maggie Leber Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 11:02 AM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement

Re: [time-nuts] NTP Synchronised Nixie Tube Clock

2007-05-08 Thread Jack Hudler
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jack Hudler Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 5:37 PM To: 'Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement' Subject: Re: [time-nuts] NTP Synchronised Nixie Tube Clock Now that's a thing of beauty It just went

Re: [time-nuts] OT: Audiophoolery

2007-04-21 Thread Jack Hudler
Just please tell me they're not serrated, know how to use a steel, and you keep them holder or leather pouch. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rasputin Novgorod Sent: Friday, April 20, 2007 8:19 AM To: Discussion of precise time and

Re: [time-nuts] Solar Bursts May Threaten GPS

2007-04-04 Thread Jack Hudler
Followed no doubt by; global cooling! :) couldn't resist. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brooke Clarke Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2007 8:12 PM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Solar Bursts

Re: [time-nuts] Anti-time-nuts clock

2007-03-31 Thread Jack Hudler
I HAVE GOT TO GET ME ONE OF THESES!!! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joseph Gray Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2007 3:42 AM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: [time-nuts] Anti-time-nuts clock When close enough

Re: [time-nuts] HP 5370A Frequency counter Problem(s)

2007-03-23 Thread Jack Hudler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 5:34 PM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] HP 5370A Frequency counter Problem(s) Jack Hudler wrote: On HP gear, I used a tire cleaner (Eagle something). It's the only thing I

Re: [time-nuts] HP 5370A Frequency counter Problem(s)

2007-03-23 Thread Jack Hudler
and the phrase 5370A UNIVERSAL TIME INTERVAL COUNTER. The back side looks like it was silkscreened in black. - Original Message - From: Jack Hudler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement' time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Friday, March 23, 2007 10:09 PM Subject: Re

Re: [time-nuts] HP 5370A Frequency counter Problem(s)

2007-03-22 Thread Jack Hudler
On HP gear, I used a tire cleaner (Eagle something). It's the only thing I found that removes that cigarette tar stain Note: make sure any stickers and goo from stickers are gone before tire cleaner. Then I polish the face with rubbing compound or touch up areas with paint and coat with a

Re: [time-nuts] Hello

2007-03-21 Thread Jack Hudler
It been mentioned here before; http://www.febo.com/pipermail/time-nuts/2004-September/017484.html It's a book about Alfred Loomis. I remember (forgive my old memory) reading about his use of 3 pendulum clocks and his discovering that varying the proximal distances had an effect on drift. Jack

Re: [time-nuts] Hello

2007-03-20 Thread Jack Hudler
It looks like this http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=280095458978 If it doesn't look very similar to this, buy this one and have done with it! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Neville Michie Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007

[time-nuts] Question for the cesium nuts.

2007-03-16 Thread Jack Hudler
It seems to me that like all good things they must come to and end. If all CBTs have a life expectancy that varies depending on the manufacturer. What are we going to do when all the CBTs owned by amateurs start to end of life? I for one am certainly not going to buy one, not at those prices!

Re: [time-nuts] Question for the cesium nuts.

2007-03-16 Thread Jack Hudler
01915 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Business) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Personal) (978) 232-1461 (Desk) (339) 927-7896 (Mobile) (978) 927-4099 (FAX) -- Original message -- From: Jack Hudler [EMAIL PROTECTED] It seems to me that like all good things they must come to and end

Re: [time-nuts] Fine print on HP 5334B

2007-02-22 Thread Jack Hudler
LOL You're not alone! I haven't looked, do you know what the CPU is? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Newell Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 6:12 PM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts]

Re: [time-nuts] Fine print on HP 5334B

2007-02-22 Thread Jack Hudler
the source... Jack -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Newell Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 7:21 PM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Fine print on HP 5334B At 07:14 PM 2/22/2007 -0600, Jack

Re: [time-nuts] Estate sales

2007-02-12 Thread Jack Hudler
I once found a $18000 telescope and promptly wrote out a check for the $1100 dollar price tag. My hand was shaking on that one. I was so scared someone was going to out me. :) Jack -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rich and Marcia Putz

Re: [time-nuts] FEI-565A part

2007-02-05 Thread Jack Hudler
Make sure you're seated, in an upright position, and have your wallet stowed in a protected area prior to opening that RFQ reply. That is if you even get one! :) Jack -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Hawkins Sent: Monday, February

Re: [time-nuts] Odd request

2007-01-25 Thread Jack Hudler
- Original Message - From: Jack Hudler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement' time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 12:09 PM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Odd request It is elegant! Was that the XYL's opinion? -Original Message- From

Re: [time-nuts] Odd request

2007-01-25 Thread Jack Hudler
of the second hand. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=110081232209 But how how to connect it? Have Fun, Brooke Clarke w/Java http://www.PRC68.com w/o Java http://www.pacificsites.com/~brooke/PRC68COM.shtml http://www.precisionclock.com Jack Hudler wrote: There are some clocks

Re: [time-nuts] HP 58517A Distribution Amp

2007-01-24 Thread Jack Hudler
If you send me the raw images Greyscale (not BW) 300 DPI or better, I'll put it up on hparchive.com Jack -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bruce Lanning Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 9:41 AM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency

Re: [time-nuts] 10811 Repair - Voltage Check

2007-01-24 Thread Jack Hudler
If you do solder it, wrap the wire at least 4 turns starting at the bottom, then clip a pair of forceps or needle nose pliers for a heat sink on the start turn. Then only solder the end of the wire on the terminal (There's a NASA procedure # for this method, but that was another space, time and a

Re: [time-nuts] HP 58517A Distribution Amp

2007-01-24 Thread Jack Hudler
: Re: [time-nuts] HP 58517A Distribution Amp Jack Hudler wrote: If you send me the raw images Greyscale (not BW) 300 DPI or better, I'll put it up on hparchive.com Jack -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bruce Lanning Sent: Wednesday

Re: [time-nuts] 10811 Repair (was warmup / bad batch)

2007-01-22 Thread Jack Hudler
It's probably the thermistor. What model are you playing with? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jason Rabel Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 5:16 PM To: 'Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement' Subject: [time-nuts] 10811 Repair

Re: [time-nuts] 10811 Repair (was warmup / bad batch)

2007-01-22 Thread Jack Hudler
Jason, Do me (and others) a favor and take some good pictures. Especially if you can get one with it all unfolded (like page 63) I'll fix/sitch it up in photoshop. Jack -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jason Rabel Sent: Monday,

Re: [time-nuts] 10811 warmup

2007-01-21 Thread Jack Hudler
http://www.hpl.hp.com/techreports/1999/HPL-1999-6.pdf See page 2 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Karlquist Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2007 9:40 PM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Cc: Discussion of precise time

Re: [time-nuts] 10811 warmup

2007-01-21 Thread Jack Hudler
DUH! You wrote it Rick! LOL! http://www.hpl.hp.com/techreports/1999/HPL-1999-6.pdf ___ time-nuts mailing list time-nuts@febo.com https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts

Re: [time-nuts] 10811 warmup

2007-01-20 Thread Jack Hudler
Could physical damage to the crystal account for this deviation? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Karlquist Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2007 11:51 AM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Cc: time-nuts@febo.com

Re: [time-nuts] G3RUH GPS Stabilized Oscillator

2007-01-20 Thread Jack Hudler
Count the number of oscillations between the 1PPS, that will get you 1x10-7 any thing more you'll need an oscilloscope to see the phase crossing. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard W. Solomon Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2007 3:17 PM

Re: [time-nuts] 10811 warmup (Jason Rabel)

2007-01-20 Thread Jack Hudler
Made'm red just for ya in the updated 10811 manual DO NOT OPERATE THE OVEN CIRCUITS WHEN THE OVEN MASS IS OUTSIDE OF THE OSCILLATOR INSULATED HOUSING. DOING SO WILL OVERHEAT THE OSCILLATOR CIRCUITS INSIDE THE OVEN MASS AND CAUSE PERMANENT DAMAGE. ALL OVEN TEST POINTS ARE AVAILABLE WITH THE OVEN

Re: [time-nuts] OT: RoHS crap

2007-01-17 Thread Jack Hudler
Sounds like; It's all fun and games until someone gets hurt... then it's just fun. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Poul-Henning Kamp Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 2:49 PM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement

Re: [time-nuts] Bad batch of HP10811's

2007-01-15 Thread Jack Hudler
Just checked an she had a bunch of those that didn't sell. She hasn't relisted them... interesting. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tim Shoppa Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 6:58 PM To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Bad batch

Re: [time-nuts] Bad batch of HP10811's

2007-01-14 Thread Jack Hudler
Who sold them? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Amos Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2007 1:41 PM To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: [time-nuts] Bad batch of HP10811's Time-nuts, Seems like a bad batch of HP10811's was dumped on e-bay over

Re: [time-nuts] HP 10811-60155 pinout

2007-01-13 Thread Jack Hudler
Yep I'm looking at it right now and yes it has eyelets. http://www.hudler.org/pub/IMG_4586.JPG Jack -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jason Rabel Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2007 10:46 AM To: 'Discussion of precise time and frequency

Re: [time-nuts] HP 10811-60155 pinout

2007-01-13 Thread Jack Hudler
I'm about to update the HP-10811AB-Manual.pdf on hparchive.com with new part numbers for the connectors (eyelets, straight, and 90 degree). If anyone has any additional information they want added, chime in! Thanks, Jack -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL

Re: [time-nuts] HP 10811-60155 pinout

2007-01-13 Thread Jack Hudler
Good stuff thanks! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christopher Hoover Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2007 1:22 PM To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] HP 10811-60155 pinout (This info may be in the archive, I think, but maybe it

Re: [time-nuts] NTS-100 IRIG to GPS Conversion

2007-01-13 Thread Jack Hudler
I should have mentioned that 10 pin header on 8 pin socket thing. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jason Rabel Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2007 4:12 PM To: 'Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement' Subject: Re: [time-nuts]

Re: [time-nuts] HP 10811-60155 pinout

2007-01-12 Thread Jack Hudler
Doesn't surprise me... what amazes me is the amount of money she passes up by not using Paypal. Look here; http://www.hparchive.com/Manuals/HP-10811AB-Manual.pdf the pinouts are the same. Additional information is on http://www.febo.com/time-freq/hardware/HP10811-Specs.pdf The connector is an

Re: [time-nuts] Looking For Tektronix Knobs 22xx Series

2007-01-10 Thread Jack Hudler
Heck I would be grateful for a service manual for my Tektronix 2246. One doesn't seem to exist. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jason Rabel Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 10:50 AM To: 'Discussion of precise time and frequency

Re: [time-nuts] Jack Hudler

2007-01-02 Thread Jack Hudler
: [time-nuts] Jack Hudler Randy Warner said the following on 01/02/2007 03:55 PM: The following recipient(s) could not be reached: Jack Hudler on 1/2/2007 12:45 PM There was a SMTP communication problem with the recipient's email server. Please contact your system

[time-nuts] RFTG-m-RB on eBay

2006-12-27 Thread Jack Hudler
Well he hasn't any pictures (just ask for some). Does anyone know what the output frequency is? What shape the Rubidium would be in? Thanks, Jack -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Hawkins Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2006 10:06 PM To:

Re: [time-nuts] 5334A and TIC measurments.

2006-12-25 Thread Jack Hudler
that command and how you get the data depends on the GPIB adapter you have, and the user level software you are using. And that can get complicated. I refer you to my GPIB page at http://www.ko4bb.com/Test_Equipment/GPIB.html for some practical info on GPIB. Didier KO4BB Jack Hudler wrote: One

Re: [time-nuts] Weird HP 5334B problem

2006-12-23 Thread Jack Hudler
Your manual 2934 covers the 2804 series and the 2804 definitely contains fixes made in the 2704. Otherwise it would state that the 2804 requires this change. If you use a manual that cover everything up to an including 2804, then you wouldn't know if any later fixes might have solve an issue

Re: [time-nuts] GPS orthodontics: sawteeth hanging bridges -theeffect of time averaging

2006-12-22 Thread Jack Hudler
Knew there was something I liked about Ulrich! Laphroaig! I have a 30 and 40 in my collection... waiting for an excuse to open my 40. ___ time-nuts mailing list time-nuts@febo.com https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts

Re: [time-nuts] Getting started on Shera project

2006-12-21 Thread Jack Hudler
YOU have a 10811D that worn out? How did you determine this? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cornell Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 4:05 PM To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: [time-nuts] Getting started on Shera project I am new to the

Re: [time-nuts] PC clock comparison software?

2006-12-20 Thread Jack Hudler
The Timer/Clock interrupt is IRQ 0 no other interrupt has a higher priority, therefore this interrupt is rarely missed. If it were missed then interrupts would have to be turned off longer the 110ms (2 times the clock rate) which is an enormous amount of time and due no doubt to an improperly

Re: [time-nuts] PC clock comparison software?

2006-12-20 Thread Jack Hudler
Probably what to take this off list. Eek screen capture. That's one of those heart stoppers on the Win9x platforms, it's got nothing to do with Windows, it the device driver in some of those old cards that CLI (Clear interrupts) for a long period. We had issues with this causing Netware Client's

Re: [time-nuts] PC clock comparison software?

2006-12-19 Thread Jack Hudler
never know and I doubt they care. Jack Hudler -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Charles S. Osborne Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2006 8:02 PM To: Time-Nuts Subject: [time-nuts] PC clock comparison software? I have a query. Does anyone have

Re: [time-nuts] Looking For Info On A Kode/Odetics375-642TimeDisplayUnit

2006-12-17 Thread Jack Hudler
That's exactly what I use mine for. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jason Rabel Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2006 4:59 PM To: 'Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement' Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Looking For Info On A

Re: [time-nuts] Looking For Info On A Kode/Odetics 375-642 Time DisplayUnit

2006-12-16 Thread Jack Hudler
I flipped em... didn't free run for me. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jason Rabel Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2006 4:06 PM To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: [time-nuts] Looking For Info On A Kode/Odetics 375-642 Time DisplayUnit Now you

[time-nuts] Best GPS 1PPS Accuracy

2006-12-13 Thread Jack Hudler
Can someone explain the accuracy numbers that are represented in specs for GPS receivers? I find that Trimble says the Resolution T (http://www.trimble.com/resolutiont.shtml) has 15 ns (1 Sigma) like the M12+. So I guess the real question is; are you comparing apples to apples when the

Re: [time-nuts] LPRO-101 with Brooks Shera's GPS locking circuit

2006-12-13 Thread Jack Hudler
If I'm totally missing something here please correct and enlighten me. On the subject of Brooks Shera's design, the one thing that troubles me is the use of a 24 MHz oscillator to count the width of the 1PPS signal. This yields a precision of 4.16e-8, but does it really? This oscillator is

Re: [time-nuts] motorola oncore descriptions

2006-12-13 Thread Jack Hudler
Ah I too wondered about the 10kHz output and wince it came. One phase lock circuit being sold on eBay uses this by dividing it down to 1 PPS. Perhaps he wanted to save one 74HC390. Still I wonder what the precision cost is? Jack -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL

Re: [time-nuts] motorola oncore descriptions

2006-12-13 Thread Jack Hudler
That's essentially the same circuit. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jason Rabel Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2006 9:07 PM To: 'Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement' Subject: Re: [time-nuts] motorola oncore descriptions I

Re: [time-nuts] Best GPS 1PPS Accuracy

2006-12-13 Thread Jack Hudler
Many thanks for the long post! You validated many of my concerns about the current state of amateur GPSDO's. Thanks again, Jack ___ time-nuts mailing list time-nuts@febo.com https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts

Re: [time-nuts] LPRO-101 with Brooks Shera's GPS locking circuit

2006-12-13 Thread Jack Hudler
Bruce, Can you describe further your idea about phase detection using an ADC. Who produces the sinewave from the filtered counter? (Thinking out loud) Using a 10MHz oscillator as an example: Is this dividing the clock down to (say) 1 MHz and using a square-sine conversion then sampling the

Re: [time-nuts] Time Nuts at PTTI this past week

2006-12-09 Thread Jack Hudler
Yeah just think of the environmental impact or the impact of the environmental protection agency; which ever is greater. :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Didier Juges Sent: Saturday, December 09, 2006 5:41 PM To: Discussion of precise

[time-nuts] Specs on a CTI K1525AA oscillator

2006-12-07 Thread Jack Hudler
The oscillator in the Truetime NTS-100 is a CTI K1525AA 10MHz. I want to see if I can drive a IsoTemp OCXO134-10 or 10811D directly but I need some spec in order to determine if the DAC has enough range to handle it. Any help? Thanks, Jack Hudler

[time-nuts] 10811D's on eBay

2006-12-06 Thread Jack Hudler
Anyone else besides me pick up one of these yet? I'd be interested in what you found. Thanks, Jack ___ time-nuts mailing list time-nuts@febo.com https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts

Re: [time-nuts] 10811D's on eBay

2006-12-06 Thread Jack Hudler
Another GPSDO for me OR It's easy to add a Web Server (PINK) to a Parallax Javelin (or Basic) stamp module. So I think I'll start an NTP server project... why? Cause my NTS100 will end of life itself by 2010 due to a firmware issue (If I recall, please correct me if I'm wrong or you've

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