Re: [time-nuts] M12 100 Hz vs. 1PPS measurements

2008-12-08 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Tom Van Baak writes: What about Jupiter's 10 KHz output under same conditions? Yes, a Jupiter is next on the list. My expectation in all these cases is that more pulses per solution does not give any additional timing accuracy. That depends what clock-frequency is

Re: [time-nuts] M12 100 Hz vs. 1PPS measurements

2008-12-06 Thread WarrenS
** - Original Message - From: Tom Van Baak [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 12:32 AM Subject: [time-nuts] M12 100 Hz vs. 1PPS measurements I know a number of you have been waiting

Re: [time-nuts] M12 100 Hz vs. 1PPS measurements

2008-12-06 Thread WarrenS
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von WarrenS Gesendet: Samstag, 6. Dezember 2008 16:04 An: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Betreff: Re: [time-nuts] M12 100 Hz vs. 1PPS measurements Tom, This is great work and Information to see. I do think

Re: [time-nuts] M12 100 Hz vs. 1PPS measurements

2008-12-06 Thread Tom Van Baak
1st question: Does anyone have or can they tell me where to get a copy of the actual raw data Tom used for these plots? http://www.leapsecond.com/pages/m12-adev/ I'm out of town at the moment and so can't yet address all the other comments and questions about the M12. The raw data:

Re: [time-nuts] M12 100 Hz vs. 1PPS measurements

2008-12-06 Thread Bruce Griffiths
WarrenS wrote: Tom, This is great work and Information to see. I do think that this will inspire, and make if not a giant leap, at least a small step to better GPSDO performance. 1st question: Does anyone have or can they tell me where to get a copy of the actual raw data Tom used for

[time-nuts] M12 100 Hz vs. 1PPS measurements

2008-12-05 Thread Tom Van Baak
I know a number of you have been waiting for the results of this M12 experiment. I compared the performance of a 100 Hz output vs. a 1PPS output vs. a 1PPS with sawtooth correction. http://www.leapsecond.com/pages/m12-adev/ I think it came out quite well and it may surprise some of you. /tvb

Re: [time-nuts] M12 100 Hz vs. 1PPS measurements

2008-12-05 Thread Peter Vince
Tom, Interesting results - thank you. Is there a small problem with the graph plotting routine though? On the left of the 100Hz plots, at some tau there are two points above each other (5 + 7 * 10^-2), and other tau have no data points (4, 6, + 8 * 10^- 2). Peter On Fri Dec 5 8:32 ,

Re: [time-nuts] M12 100 Hz vs. 1PPS measurements

2008-12-05 Thread Predrag Dukic
Nice and useful What about Jupiter's 10 KHz output under same conditions? Predrag Dukic At 09:32 5.12.2008, you wrote: I know a number of you have been waiting for the results of this M12 experiment. I compared the performance of a 100 Hz output vs. a 1PPS output vs. a 1PPS with

Re: [time-nuts] M12 100 Hz vs. 1PPS measurements

2008-12-05 Thread WarrenS
, December 05, 2008 12:32 AM Subject: [time-nuts] M12 100 Hz vs. 1PPS measurements I know a number of you have been waiting for the results of this M12 experiment. I compared the performance of a 100 Hz output vs. a 1PPS output vs. a 1PPS with sawtooth correction. http://www.leapsecond.com/pages/m12

Re: [time-nuts] M12 100 Hz vs. 1PPS measurements

2008-12-05 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], WarrenS writes: The short of it is that every once in a while the 100 Hz syncs up for a short time to the 1 Hz As far as I have ever been able to tell, that is not how it works. The 100Hz and 1Hz are generated with the same hardware and same behaviour relative to

[time-nuts] M12 100 Hz vs. 1PPS measurements

2008-12-05 Thread WarrenS
In message 02c801c956c9$4aa089a0$6401a8c0 at WSOffice, WarrenS writes: The short of it is that every once in a while the 100 Hz syncs up for a short time to the 1 Hz As far as I have ever been able to tell, that is not how it works. The 100Hz and 1Hz are generated with the same hardware and

Re: [time-nuts] M12 100 Hz vs. 1PPS measurements

2008-12-05 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], WarrenS writes: The short of it is that every once in a while the 100 Hz syncs up for a short time to the 1 Hz As far as I have ever been able to tell, that is not how it works. The 100 Hz is defiantly update or at least different on every cycle, and has about the

Re: [time-nuts] M12 100 Hz vs. 1PPS measurements

2008-12-05 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Poul-Henning Kamp writes: We are talking about different things here, you are talking about collapsing the chosen (software) frequency (estimate) to phase samples using the hardware, I'm talking about updates to the (software) frequency (estimate). Forgot to say: if