[time-nuts] Teardown of Chinese made eBay GPS antenna.

2018-03-28 Thread Mark Sims
I can confirm that they work well on Glonass and Beidou. I have not tried them on my Z12 with L2 signals. Last night a big lightning strike across the street took out a tree. Antenna survived without damage, but my antenna is on a 3 foot tripod on the ground... it was quite a

Re: [time-nuts] Teardown of Chinese made eBay GPS antenna.

2018-03-28 Thread Gary E. Miller
Yo Bob! On Wed, 28 Mar 2018 16:37:07 -0400 Bob kb8tq wrote: > So, after only two months in transit my examples of the “Chinese GPS > Antenna” are here to poke at. Cool. I just ordered one. I'm finding some GPS need the 40dB LNA this claims, as opposed to the usual 23dB or so.

Re: [time-nuts] Teardown of Chinese made eBay GPS antenna.

2018-03-28 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi So, after only two months in transit my examples of the “Chinese GPS Antenna” are here to poke at. They are from www.stotoncn.com and are labeled as being their part number GN-GGB0710. They clearly show 3.3V to 18V as the operating voltage on the box they came in

Re: [time-nuts] Teardown of Chinese made eBay GPS antenna.

2018-02-23 Thread Graham / KE9H
> The Chinese have no concept of, or ignore, intellectual property rights. Do not forget that China is a communist government and culture.. And has been since about 1948. So no one left who was raised under a different system of government. Under communism, every thing is owned by "the people."

Re: [time-nuts] Teardown of Chinese made eBay GPS antenna.

2018-02-22 Thread Ruslan Nabioullin
On Thu, Feb 22, 2018 at 5:48 PM, djl wrote: > Fine. The Chinese have no concept of, or ignore, intellectual property > rights. Which is not necessarily perverse---there exist people (most notably those of the so-called Pirate Party movements worldwide) who deem the legal

Re: [time-nuts] Teardown of Chinese made eBay GPS antenna.

2018-02-22 Thread William H. Fite
With respect, Tom, discussion of quality issues is scarcely "social media." But...it is your list so that's the last you'll hear from me on the topic. On Thursday, February 22, 2018, Tom Van Baak wrote: > Let's keep this thread on topic and highly informative. > > Please

[time-nuts] Teardown of Chinese made eBay GPS antenna.

2018-02-22 Thread William H. Fite
Ignore intellectual property rights - yes Abusive labor practices - yes (I'm a radlib, this bothers me enormously) Counterfeit parts - sometimes But... Little or no quality control - not necessarily Drive out better goods - only if buyers allow to happen Because... The reason that Chinese

Re: [time-nuts] Teardown of Chinese made eBay GPS antenna.

2018-02-22 Thread Tom Van Baak
Let's keep this thread on topic and highly informative. Please treat time nuts as a technical mailing list, not social media. Thanks, /tvb Moderator, www.leapsecond.com/time-nuts.htm ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go

Re: [time-nuts] Teardown of Chinese made eBay GPS antenna.

2018-02-22 Thread djl
Fine. The Chinese have no concept of, or ignore, intellectual property rights. They will cheerfully use 13 year old girls to put together stuff using counterfeit parts and ripped circuits. There is little or no quality control. The problem is that these goods drive better goods out of the

Re: [time-nuts] Teardown of Chinese made eBay GPS antenna.

2018-02-22 Thread Clint Jay
Then Africa. On 22 Feb 2018 22:42, "Bob kb8tq" wrote: > India > > > On Feb 22, 2018, at 5:37 PM, Van Horn, David backcountryaccess.com> wrote: > > > > > > "Some of you are to young to remember when Javanese products were > considered junk same storyBert Kehren"

Re: [time-nuts] Teardown of Chinese made eBay GPS antenna.

2018-02-22 Thread Bob kb8tq
India > On Feb 22, 2018, at 5:37 PM, Van Horn, David > wrote: > > > "Some of you are to young to remember when Javanese products were considered > junk same storyBert Kehren" > > I've lived through Japan, Taiwan, and now China. Who's next?  > > >

Re: [time-nuts] Teardown of Chinese made eBay GPS antenna.

2018-02-22 Thread Van Horn, David
"Some  of you are to young to remember when Javanese products were considered junk same storyBert Kehren" I've lived through Japan, Taiwan, and now China. Who's next?  ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to

Re: [time-nuts] Teardown of Chinese made eBay GPS antenna.

2018-02-22 Thread ewkehren via time-nuts
of precise time and frequency measurement <time-nuts@febo.com> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Teardown of Chinese made eBay GPS antenna. I wasn't making any comment about Chinese goods, just the component in question. -Original Message- From: time-nuts [mailto:time-nuts

Re: [time-nuts] Teardown of Chinese made eBay GPS antenna.

2018-02-22 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi As mentioned in another post, the part does claim to have thermal limit built in. They appear to pulse test them at 150 ma and 16V so there is indeed *something* that would suggest operation at 12V would be ok. I’d guess that the thermal regulation spec applies up to 16V and past that you are

Re: [time-nuts] Teardown of Chinese made eBay GPS antenna.

2018-02-22 Thread Van Horn, David
time and frequency measurement <time-nuts@febo.com> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Teardown of Chinese made eBay GPS antenna. I wish people would lighten up on Chinese goods. Perhaps you are not aware that China builds for and sells to both the DOD and NASA. Chinese manufacturers build to the

Re: [time-nuts] Teardown of Chinese made eBay GPS antenna.

2018-02-22 Thread William H. Fite
I wish people would lighten up on Chinese goods. Perhaps you are not aware that China builds for and sells to both the DOD and NASA. Chinese manufacturers build to the specs they are given. You want cheap crap, they'll build cheap crap. You want top quality, they'll build top quality. On

Re: [time-nuts] Teardown of Chinese made eBay GPS antenna.

2018-02-22 Thread Van Horn, David
According to the data sheet, it looks pretty well in spec, and the part has thermal shutdown. http://ww1.microchip.com/downloads/en/DeviceDoc/mic5203.pdf ESD hit maybe? ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to

Re: [time-nuts] Teardown of Chinese made eBay GPS antenna.

2018-02-22 Thread djl
Chinese made, ... This part looks almost identical to the Trimble Microcentered antenna I worked on recently. Right. It's Chinese made. 'nuff said. Don ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to

[time-nuts] Teardown of Chinese made eBay GPS antenna.

2018-02-22 Thread John Green
For those who have been following the saga of the Chinese made, eBay purchased antenna that failed, I may have an answer as to why it failed. I had to destructively disassemble it. I just could not get it apart any other way. I used a Chinese version of a Dremel tool with a metal saw blade. After