Re: [time-nuts] AVAR - S_Y conversion

2015-03-22 Thread Wolfgang Wallner
Hello time-nuts community, thanks to your feedback and that of others, I could make additional progress on my journey to understand powerlaw noise :) I would like to reiterate what I have learned so far. Please comment on anything that you think is done wrong.

Re: [time-nuts] AVAR - S_Y conversion

2015-03-22 Thread Wolfgang Wallner
Hello Magnus, I'm sorry, but I can't follow you here. I know that time deviation values and fractional frequency values are related via integration, so I think I understand the third line. But I don't know what is meant especially with the first one: What is d(t)? What is D? Is this the

Re: [time-nuts] AVAR - S_Y conversion

2015-03-14 Thread Magnus Danielson
Wolfgang, Remember to scale the double-integral right: d(t) = D y(t) = integrate(d(t),t) = y_0 + Dt x(t) = integrate(y(t),t) = x_0 + y_0*t + D/2*t^2 Did you miss the 1/2 factor somewhere? That would make sense for the Random Walk phase noise. Cheers, Magnus On 03/09/2015 04:57 PM, Wolfgang

Re: [time-nuts] AVAR - S_Y conversion

2015-03-12 Thread Wolfgang Wallner
Hello Tom, hello time-nuts, Have a look at the 20 plots in: http://leapsecond.com/pages/allan/Exploring_Allan_Deviation_v2.pdf Thanks for sharing the data and the PDF! It's good to have reference values. I also had a look at the stable32 user manual [1] to see how it calculates the PSD

Re: [time-nuts] AVAR - S_Y conversion

2015-03-09 Thread Wolfgang Wallner
On 03/06/2015 10:29 PM, Magnus Danielson wrote: I have checked several sources, and they match up with the IEEE 1139 in this regard. I have also evaluated the equation for Allan variance for the random walk noise, and it matches up with the references and what I put here:

Re: [time-nuts] AVAR - S_Y conversion

2015-03-09 Thread Tom Van Baak
. The raw data is at: http://leapsecond.com/pages/allan/ /tvb - Original Message - From: Wolfgang Wallner wolfgang-wall...@gmx.at To: time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Monday, March 09, 2015 8:57 AM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] AVAR - S_Y conversion On 03/06/2015 10:29 PM, Magnus Danielson wrote

Re: [time-nuts] AVAR - S_Y conversion

2015-03-06 Thread Magnus Danielson
Wolfgang, I have checked several sources, and they match up with the IEEE 1139 in this regard. I have also evaluated the equation for Allan variance for the random walk noise, and it matches up with the references and what I put here:

Re: [time-nuts] AVAR - S_Y conversion

2015-03-06 Thread Wolfgang Wallner
On 03/05/2015 07:23 PM, Attila Kinali wrote: Servus! Servus :) On Thu, 05 Mar 2015 14:35:51 +0100 Wolfgang Wallner wolfgang-wall...@gmx.at wrote: For the random walk noise the expected line is off by a factor of exactly 2 from the calculated plot, and I don't know how to explain this

Re: [time-nuts] AVAR - S_Y conversion

2015-03-05 Thread Attila Kinali
Servus! On Thu, 05 Mar 2015 14:35:51 +0100 Wolfgang Wallner wolfgang-wall...@gmx.at wrote: For the random walk noise the expected line is off by a factor of exactly 2 from the calculated plot, and I don't know how to explain this behavior. I'm probably the wrong one to answer, as I have

[time-nuts] AVAR - S_Y conversion

2015-03-05 Thread Wolfgang Wallner
Hello time-nuts community, I hope this is the right place for the following question :) I'm dealing with the simulation of powerlaw noise, and I stumbled upon something I cannot explain when I tried out some formulas of IEEE 1139 [1]: According to Table B.2 in [1] the one-sided power spectral