Re: [time-nuts] Am I the only Time Nut who doesn't wear a watch?

2011-07-16 Thread Michael Poulos
On 7/10/2011 4:10 PM, Hal Murray wrote: omni...@gmail.com said: Then there is this little number... http://forums.watchnet.com/index.php?t=treegoto=415170rid=0 From their web page: The power reserve is 52 hours, and the watch is actually very accurate at about plus or minus 4 seconds a

Re: [time-nuts] Am I the only Time Nut who doesn't wear a watch?

2011-07-16 Thread Michael Poulos
On 7/10/2011 6:33 AM, Raj wrote: To me when someone tells me a time of day the first thing I visualize is the clock hands and not numbers. I suspect the present gen visualize numbers. They must have trouble with 60 minutes in the hour.. a quarter past six and such.. I'm 48 years old and prefer

Re: [time-nuts] Am I the only Time Nut who doesn't wear a watch?

2011-07-16 Thread Michael Poulos
On 7/10/2011 5:04 AM, Javier Herrero wrote: My car has an interior look similar to this: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c7/Jaguar_XKR_Convertible_interior.jpg/800px-Jaguar_XKR_Convertible_interior.jpg Time ago, I pick a young engineer (quite digitally oriented, may I

Re: [time-nuts] Am I the only Time Nut who doesn't wear a watch?

2011-07-16 Thread bownes
I'd love to find a Smiths analogue clock to match the gauges in the dash of my old British car! On Jul 16, 2011, at 10:56, Michael Poulos poulo...@gmail.com wrote: On 7/10/2011 5:04 AM, Javier Herrero wrote: My car has an interior look similar to this:

Re: [time-nuts] Am I the only Time Nut who doesn't wear a watch?

2011-07-16 Thread Michael Poulos
On 7/9/2011 10:18 PM, Raj wrote: I dont wear a watch since 25 years or more. Plenty of clocks around and now will cell phone and other personal devices all have clocks. Watch it. Those clocks on the cell phones are consistently slow compared to a WWVB watch. The time clocks where I

Re: [time-nuts] Am I the only Time Nut who doesn't wear a watch?

2011-07-16 Thread Lee Mushel
@febo.com Cc: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2011 9:00 AM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Am I the only Time Nut who doesn't wear a watch? I'd love to find a Smiths analogue clock to match the gauges in the dash of my old British car

Re: [time-nuts] Am I the only Time Nut who doesn't wear a watch?

2011-07-11 Thread Hal Murray
This watch is not quartz, it is fully mechanical with a balance wheel. What is the temperature profile of a mechanical balance wheel? That seems like something at least one time-nut would have good data on. Graphs of offset vs temperature for crystals are readily available. For the

Re: [time-nuts] Am I the only Time Nut who doesn't wear a watch?

2011-07-11 Thread David C. Partridge
-Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Hal Murray Sent: 11 July 2011 06:13 To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Am I the only Time Nut who doesn't wear a watch? 4 seconds per day? I'd expected

Re: [time-nuts] Am I the only Time Nut who doesn't wear a watch?

2011-07-11 Thread Will Matney
Hal, *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** On 7/10/2011 at 10:12 PM Hal Murray wrote: 4 seconds per day? I'd expected better from a very expensive watch. Are belts nasty when it comes to keeping good time? No, it shouldn't have nothing to do with the belts, as they're the same as

Re: [time-nuts] Am I the only Time Nut who doesn't wear a watch?

2011-07-11 Thread Paul Nelson
There's a good writeup on accuracy on wikipedia- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COSC includes a handy table comparing mechanical movement and quartz movement requirements. To be considered a chronometer, the daily rate must be within -4 to +6 secs/day. The stability of the rate over time is more

Re: [time-nuts] Am I the only Time Nut who doesn't wear a watch?

2011-07-11 Thread paul swed
Been reading the mail and I do use a watch. Not sure if thats good or bad. But it is indeed amazing how well modern time pieces work. A $5 Timex with large battery that will run 5 years is a reality. How accurate is it? Good enough not to worry between time changes. By the way I also have a number

Re: [time-nuts] Am I the only Time Nut who doesn't wear a watch?

2011-07-10 Thread Rob Kimberley
I want one!! Rob K -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Robert Darlington Sent: 10 July 2011 6:47 AM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Am I the only Time Nut who doesn't wear

Re: [time-nuts] Am I the only Time Nut who doesn't wear a watch?

2011-07-10 Thread Steve Rooke
You'd need one for both wrists and learn to look at the time on alternate watches or you'll end up with lop sided upper arm muscle growth. Who needs dumbbells when you can work out just by looking at the time :) I wonder what the average time for the novelty to wear out is on one of these. Steve

Re: [time-nuts] Am I the only Time Nut who doesn't wear a watch?

2011-07-10 Thread Steve Rooke
I still wear my Tag Heuer F1 midsize from back in the 80's. Although I'm on my second plastic bezel, the first wore so bad it eventually dropped off, and I have been through countless straps, the sapphire crystal is as good today as the first day I got it. They just don't seem to scratch at all, l

Re: [time-nuts] Am I the only Time Nut who doesn't wear a watch?

2011-07-10 Thread Javier Herrero
My car has an interior look similar to this: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c7/Jaguar_XKR_Convertible_interior.jpg/800px-Jaguar_XKR_Convertible_interior.jpg Time ago, I pick a young engineer (quite digitally oriented, may I say) to go somewhere. He saw the three gauges

Re: [time-nuts] Am I the only Time Nut who doesn't wear a watch?

2011-07-10 Thread WB6BNQ
I got to tell ya Javier, I am deeply troubled by this report. BillWB6BNQ Javier Herrero wrote: My car has an interior look similar to this: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c7/Jaguar_XKR_Convertible_interior.jpg/800px-Jaguar_XKR_Convertible_interior.jpg Time ago,

Re: [time-nuts] Am I the only Time Nut who doesn't wear a watch?

2011-07-10 Thread Raj
To me when someone tells me a time of day the first thing I visualize is the clock hands and not numbers. I suspect the present gen visualize numbers. They must have trouble with 60 minutes in the hour.. a quarter past six and such.. At 10-07-2011, you wrote: Apparently for those who

Re: [time-nuts] Am I the only Time Nut who doesn't wear a watch?

2011-07-10 Thread Rob Kimberley
To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Am I the only Time Nut who doesn't wear a watch? You'd need one for both wrists and learn to look at the time on alternate watches or you'll end up with lop sided upper arm muscle growth. Who needs dumbbells when you can work out

Re: [time-nuts] Am I the only Time Nut who doesn't wear a watch?

2011-07-10 Thread Mark Spencer
and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Sun, July 10, 2011 2:54:26 AM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Am I the only Time Nut who doesn't wear a watch? I still wear my Tag Heuer F1 midsize from back in the 80's. Although I'm on my second plastic bezel, the first wore so bad it eventually dropped off

Re: [time-nuts] Am I the only Time Nut who doesn't wear a watch?

2011-07-10 Thread William H. Fite
for most mortals. :-) Rob -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Steve Rooke Sent: 10 July 2011 10:28 AM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Am I the only Time Nut who doesn't

Re: [time-nuts] Am I the only Time Nut who doesn't wear a watch?

2011-07-10 Thread Steve Rooke
measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Am I the only Time Nut who doesn't wear a watch? You'd need one for both wrists and learn to look at the time on alternate watches or you'll end up with lop sided upper arm muscle growth. Who needs dumbbells when you can work out just by looking at the time

Re: [time-nuts] Am I the only Time Nut who doesn't wear a watch?

2011-07-10 Thread Javier Herrero
Curious concept... with ball bearings and cam belts... eeer... transmission belts ;) El 10/07/2011 17:20, William H. Fite escribió: Then there is this little number... http://forums.watchnet.com/index.php?t=treegoto=415170rid=0 ___ time-nuts

Re: [time-nuts] Am I the only Time Nut who doesn't wear a watch?

2011-07-10 Thread Hal Murray
omni...@gmail.com said: Then there is this little number... http://forums.watchnet.com/index.php?t=treegoto=415170rid=0 From their web page: The power reserve is 52 hours, and the watch is actually very accurate at about plus or minus 4 seconds a day. 4 seconds per day? I'd expected

Re: [time-nuts] Am I the only Time Nut who doesn't wear a watch?

2011-07-10 Thread Will Matney
Hal, No, it shouldn't have nothing to do with the belts, as they're the same as timing belts, or toothed belts, and would work the same as gear teeth. The accuracy will come from the balance wheel arrangement, and with all the jewels (bearings), one would think it would sure move free. However,

Re: [time-nuts] Am I the only Time Nut who doesn't wear a watch?

2011-07-10 Thread Hal Murray
4 seconds per day? I'd expected better from a very expensive watch. Are belts nasty when it comes to keeping good time? No, it shouldn't have nothing to do with the belts, as they're the same as timing belts, or toothed belts, and would work the same as gear teeth. The accuracy will come

Re: [time-nuts] Am I the only Time Nut who doesn't wear a watch?

2011-07-10 Thread Steve Rooke
Hi Hal, On 11 July 2011 17:12, Hal Murray hmur...@megapathdsl.net wrote: ... The crystals on my PCs are ballpark of 1 PPM per C.  I'd expect a watch crystal to be tuned to human temperature environments and be better than that.   I guess I'll have to get setup to collect some data. This

Re: [time-nuts] Am I the only Time Nut who doesn't wear a watch?

2011-07-09 Thread Morris Odell
Bravo, Rob. I thought I was the lone voice crying in the wilderness in support of watches. My beater is an Omega Seamaster that goes everywhere and does everything all the time. My others tend to sit in their rocker boxes and seldom get worn. This was a very interesting thread. I have worn a

Re: [time-nuts] Am I the only Time Nut who doesn't wear a watch?

2011-07-09 Thread Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R
In the late 60s I had an inexpensive wristwatch with a cheap leather or plastic wristband. I did not want the enhanced conductivity if a metal band when working with vacuum tube circuits. Where I worked the only clock visible had been rigged to go backwards. But it did keep good time, which is

Re: [time-nuts] Am I the only Time Nut who doesn't wear a watch?

2011-07-09 Thread Raj
I dont wear a watch since 25 years or more. Plenty of clocks around and now will cell phone and other personal devices all have clocks. Analog generation *know* the time from the position of the clock hands. By the position of the hands you know how many minutes left to an

Re: [time-nuts] Am I the only Time Nut who doesn't wear a watch?

2011-07-09 Thread William H. Fite
I've not been to Beijing but the National Palace Museum in Taipei has some remarkable mechanical clocks, including water clocks. My Significant Other is Taiwanese and whenever I get smug there is nothing like a visit to the NPM to remind me that the Chinese were crafting breathtaking objets d'art

Re: [time-nuts] Am I the only Time Nut who doesn't wear a watch?

2011-07-09 Thread David I. Emery
On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 08:48:07AM +0530, Raj wrote: Analog generation *know* the time from the position of the clock hands. By the position of the hands you know how many minutes left to an appointment etc. IF you ask them the time then it will take a moment to convert it to words!

Re: [time-nuts] Am I the only Time Nut who doesn't wear a watch?

2011-07-09 Thread Robert Darlington
Okay guys, I saw a very strange timepiece when I was out shopping. If it wasn't $17k I'd consider it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PwJCzetTCI Interesting concept, looks good. On a side note, earlier today a friend gave me an Accutron 214 from 1965 that previously belonged to his father.

Re: [time-nuts] Am I the only Time Nut who doesn't wear a watch?

2011-07-08 Thread John Green
I haven't worn a wristwatch in maybe 30 years. I generally use my cellphone or whatever timepiece that's handy. Or, I just guess. I don't wear my wedding ring either. Jewelry of any kind bothers me. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To

Re: [time-nuts] Am I the only Time Nut who doesn't wear a watch?

2011-07-08 Thread Javier Herrero
I see we are twin souls. Exactly the same :) Regards, Javier El 08/07/2011 17:19, John Green escribió: I haven't worn a wristwatch in maybe 30 years. I generally use my cellphone or whatever timepiece that's handy. Or, I just guess. I don't wear my wedding ring either. Jewelry of any kind

Re: [time-nuts] Am I the only Time Nut who doesn't wear a watch?

2011-07-08 Thread Pete Lancashire
I normally don't. Use to but one day it stopped working and never got it repaired. But then I have 20+ clocks at home and a Nixie(R) clock on my desk at work. The only one I wear now on special events is a retirement gift to my grandfather when he retired in the the late 60's. How may factory

Re: [time-nuts] Am I the only Time Nut who doesn't wear a watch?

2011-07-08 Thread William H. Fite
I worked at one time for an employer who give 35-year retirees a Rolex. That was about 20 years ago but I think they still do it. On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 11:37 AM, Pete Lancashire p...@petelancashire.comwrote: I normally don't. Use to but one day it stopped working and never got it repaired.

Re: [time-nuts] Am I the only Time Nut who doesn't wear a watch?

2011-07-08 Thread Russell Rezaian
While I do sometimes wear a wristwatch, I find I normally don't. I usually use a stand alone clock of some sort, or the time display on my phone. As for Time Nut relevance, it's still true that you can get much better accuracy and precision for a given cost in a clock that most people

Re: [time-nuts] Am I the only Time Nut who doesn't wear a watch?

2011-07-08 Thread Chuck Harris
Actually, that still happens quite a lot. A nice looking, but not high end gold plated watch can be had very cheaply these days. I get catalogs addressed to my business that have engraved gold retirement watches anywhere from $30 to thousands. It is mostly just symbolic... in *my*

Re: [time-nuts] Am I the only Time Nut who doesn't wear a watch?

2011-07-08 Thread jmfranke
: Russell Rezaian rreza...@motorola.com Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 11:48 AM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Am I the only Time Nut who doesn't wear a watch? While I do sometimes wear a wristwatch, I find I normally don't. I

Re: [time-nuts] Am I the only Time Nut who doesn't wear a watch

2011-07-08 Thread Charles P. Steinmetz
Javier wrote: As a matter of curiosity... Am I the only time nut that does not wear a wrist watch? Nope. And it's not because I get the time from a cell phone or PDA -- I don't carry those, either. I very occasionally (once or twice a year) wear one of my pocket watches. Almost never a

Re: [time-nuts] Am I the only Time Nut who doesn't wear a watch?

2011-07-08 Thread Pete Lancashire
I thouth as well that it was just a cheapie, but when I got it I took it to get it cleaned and to replace the crystal. My watch/clock guy was quite surprised. It was not gold plated but 14ct gold, cheapies where 10ct or plated. I don't have the info with me but he told me it was not your usual

Re: [time-nuts] Am I the only Time Nut who doesn't wear a watch?

2011-07-08 Thread ed breya
I also hate wearing any kind of jewelry - watchbands and rings seem to cut off circulation, even when sized right. A few years ago I accidentally wrecked the nice Seiko that my wife gave me. Since then I have used cheap no-brand watches attached to my 30 year old Speidel Twistoflex band - the

Re: [time-nuts] Am I the only Time Nut who doesn't wear a watch?

2011-07-08 Thread Rob Kimberley
...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Steve Sent: 08 July 2011 4:46 PM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Cc: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Am I the only Time Nut who doesn't wear a watch? Haven't worn a watch in 40+ years

Re: [time-nuts] Am I the only Time Nut who doesn't wear a watch?

2011-07-08 Thread William H. Fite
-Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Steve Sent: 08 July 2011 4:46 PM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Cc: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Am I the only Time Nut who doesn't wear a watch? Haven't

Re: [time-nuts] Am I the only Time Nut who doesn't wear a watch?

2011-07-08 Thread Chuck Harris
I too love wearing a wrist watch Since I am always working with machines, I tend to scar my watches up quite a bit... therefor I tend to wear cheap watches... my current favorite is a Russian automatic dive watch that I picked up on ebay for $60. I only wear automatic winding mechanical

Re: [time-nuts] Am I the only Time Nut who doesn't wear a watch?

2011-07-08 Thread Chuck Harris
Hi Pete, I wasn't implying that it was a cheapie... though most of the more expensive watches are at least 21J... A solid gold case will bring the price up pdq! I was just saying that a lot of companies are giving gold watches to any employee that hangs on long enough to retire. The cost of

Re: [time-nuts] Am I the only Time Nut who doesn't wear a watch?

2011-07-08 Thread d . seiter
I fall into this category too.  I used to wear an Avocet altimeter watch all the time, but once the last of the three I had could no longer be fixed, I just kind of gave up.  I don't usually carry a cellphone either.  I keep thinking I should get a watch for those occations when I might

Re: [time-nuts] Am I the only Time Nut who doesn't wear a watch?

2011-07-08 Thread Pete Lancashire
i know you didnt ... it was quite the surprise. But then Elder Packing was not your modern company. Everyone from the janitor up had a full pension. Mr. Elder sold out to a maga-corp. Rest of the story is text book. -pete On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 12:21 PM, Chuck Harris cfhar...@erols.com wrote:

Re: [time-nuts] Am I the only Time Nut who doesn't wear a watch?

2011-07-08 Thread Bruce Lane
The only time I wear one is if I'm traveling, and I need to be certain places at certain times. Outside of that, I've not worn one for... gad, has it really been 25+ years? My timepiece of choice is an old Casio G-Shock model on a Velcro band. Very comfortable. Happy