[time-nuts] Another Trimble Thunderbolt-like GPS?

2011-12-19 Thread Mark Sims
Lady Heather depends upon the ability of the Thunderbolt to broadcast the time message automatically every second. Apparently the Palisade type units do not support this mode of operation. It might be possible to set up the software so that it requests the time message continuously and

Re: [time-nuts] Another Trimble Thunderbolt-like GPS?

2011-12-19 Thread paul swed
Pete Yes indeed it is cut halfway up on the bottom side it slices to the right. No idea if it would have an effect Fact that it would not work with Lady heather certainly makes it un-exciting. Regards Paul. On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 1:47 AM, Peter Bell bell.pe...@gmail.com wrote: Most of the

Re: [time-nuts] Another Trimble Thunderbolt-like GPS?

2011-12-19 Thread Robert Atkinson
measurement time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Monday, 19 December 2011, 6:47 Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Another Trimble Thunderbolt-like GPS? Most of the parts (and their grouping) seem the same as the NTPX26AB - which based on my quick play with one seems to have basically the same hardware as a Thunderbolt

Re: [time-nuts] Another Trimble Thunderbolt-like GPS?

2011-12-19 Thread Rob Kimberley
December 2011 04:41 To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: [time-nuts] Another Trimble Thunderbolt-like GPS? There are some Trimble GPS receivers on eBay. They say 10Mhz 1pps but they are not Thunderbolts. These are an A4 sized PCB, no enclosure. The seller says it takes

Re: [time-nuts] Another Trimble Thunderbolt-like GPS?

2011-12-19 Thread Rob Kimberley
-nuts] Another Trimble Thunderbolt-like GPS? There are some Trimble GPS receivers on eBay. They say 10Mhz 1pps but they are not Thunderbolts. These are an A4 sized PCB, no enclosure. The seller says it takes 48VDC to run. Seems reasonable as there is a large DC/DC power converter in the board

Re: [time-nuts] Another Trimble Thunderbolt-like GPS?

2011-12-19 Thread Ed Palmer
It's not paranoia if it's true! :-) Take a look at the pictures for # 270725678037 . These boards don't have the connector cut off of the corner of the board. Good eyes. Ed On 12/19/2011 12:47 AM, Peter Bell wrote: Most of the parts (and their grouping) seem the same as the NTPX26AB -

Re: [time-nuts] Another Trimble Thunderbolt-like GPS?

2011-12-19 Thread EWKehren
Connectors cut off so it can not be used in its original application? Bert Kehren In a message dated 12/19/2011 10:55:31 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, ed_pal...@sasktel.net writes: It's not paranoia if it's true! :-) Take a look at the pictures for # 270725678037 . These boards don't have

Re: [time-nuts] Another Trimble Thunderbolt-like GPS?

2011-12-19 Thread Peter Bell
That would make sense - when I was using one of the original Palisade units I remember that once it was tracking it only output the time packet every 150 seconds - which seemed rather strange for something that was being sold as a timing device. You could set it up to output a time packet with

Re: [time-nuts] Another Trimble Thunderbolt-like GPS?

2011-12-19 Thread Peter Bell
That's well spotted - and it also reveals that this board _doesn't_ have a PPS output - it has a CDMA style PP2S output driven on each even second. It's also got a 8xChip (9.8304 MHz) output - but I doubt that is useful to anyone outside a CDMA context. So it looks like it's useful for a 10MHz

Re: [time-nuts] Another Trimble Thunderbolt-like GPS?

2011-12-19 Thread Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R
I see fluke.i selling older GPSDOs consisting of a large board with the guts (more or less) of a Thunderbolt, a smaller board with switches and indicators, and a ribbon cable to connect them. With a FW of 1.88 and date code a few years older than a Thunderbolt, I would guess this was a

Re: [time-nuts] Another Trimble Thunderbolt-like GPS?

2011-12-19 Thread Ed Palmer
Seems unlikely. They were probably scrapped rather than resold because the original application is obsolete. Also, it would be a significant job to take the module apart so that you could cut off the connector so neatly. There are easier and faster ways to prevent reuse. Maybe the

Re: [time-nuts] Another Trimble Thunderbolt-like GPS?

2011-12-19 Thread lists
Is there some industry standard on the data format these time standards use? For instance, the thunderbolt software and Lady Heather work fine with my Starloc. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to

Re: [time-nuts] Another Trimble Thunderbolt-like GPS?

2011-12-19 Thread Robert Atkinson
Sent: Monday, 19 December 2011, 10:30 Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Another Trimble Thunderbolt-like GPS? Don't recognise it. Obviously a telecoms system of some sort as -48VDC. From a Google search of the Trimble P/N I get some Chinese sites which you can glean something about an ultra stable 10 MHz

Re: [time-nuts] Another Trimble Thunderbolt-like GPS?

2011-12-19 Thread Chris Albertson
On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 4:21 AM, Mark Sims hol...@hotmail.com wrote: Lady Heather depends upon the  ability of the Thunderbolt to broadcast the time message automatically every second.   Apparently the Palisade type units do not support this mode of operation.   It might be possible to set

Re: [time-nuts] Another Trimble Thunderbolt-like GPS?

2011-12-19 Thread Rob Kimberley
Kimberley -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of li...@lazygranch.com Sent: 19 December 2011 17:25 To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Another Trimble Thunderbolt-like GPS

Re: [time-nuts] Another Trimble Thunderbolt-like GPS?

2011-12-19 Thread aartmolsen
ed_pal...@sasktel.net To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 9:16:32 AM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Another Trimble Thunderbolt-like GPS? It's not paranoia if it's true! :-) Take a look at the pictures for # 270725678037

Re: [time-nuts] Another Trimble Thunderbolt-like GPS?

2011-12-19 Thread Kevin Rosenberg
On Dec 19, 2011, at 11:59 AM, Chris Albertson wrote: Where is the source code for Lady Heather? It's included with the binary distribution. Kevin ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to

Re: [time-nuts] Another Trimble Thunderbolt-like GPS?

2011-12-19 Thread Dennis Ferguson
On 19 Dec, 2011, at 11:25 , Rob Kimberley wrote: There was a spec issued many years ago to the industry from Lucent I believe to come up with a GPS product for base station requirements. 10 MHz, 1PPS, OCXO, RS-232 port, and a certain holdover spec. The Thunderbolt was one, Starloc another,

Re: [time-nuts] Another Trimble Thunderbolt-like GPS?

2011-12-19 Thread Robert Darlington
19, 2011 9:16:32 AM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Another Trimble Thunderbolt-like GPS? It's not paranoia if it's true! :-) Take a look at the pictures for # 270725678037 . These boards don't have the connector cut off of the corner of the board. Good eyes. Ed On 12/19/2011 12:47 AM, Peter Bell

Re: [time-nuts] Another Trimble Thunderbolt-like GPS?

2011-12-19 Thread lists
To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurementtime-nuts@febo.com Reply-To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Another Trimble Thunderbolt-like GPS? On 19 Dec, 2011, at 11:25 , Rob Kimberley wrote: There was a spec issued

Re: [time-nuts] Another Trimble Thunderbolt-like GPS?

2011-12-19 Thread Dennis Ferguson
-nuts@febo.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Another Trimble Thunderbolt-like GPS? On 19 Dec, 2011, at 11:25 , Rob Kimberley wrote: There was a spec issued many years ago to the industry from Lucent I believe to come up with a GPS product for base station requirements. 10 MHz, 1PPS, OCXO, RS

[time-nuts] Another Trimble Thunderbolt-like GPS?

2011-12-18 Thread Chris Albertson
There are some Trimble GPS receivers on eBay. They say 10Mhz 1pps but they are not Thunderbolts. These are an A4 sized PCB, no enclosure. The seller says it takes 48VDC to run. Seems reasonable as there is a large DC/DC power converter in the board. Anyone know more? How to they compare to

Re: [time-nuts] Another Trimble Thunderbolt-like GPS?

2011-12-18 Thread Peter Bell
Most of the parts (and their grouping) seem the same as the NTPX26AB - which based on my quick play with one seems to have basically the same hardware as a Thunderbolt. The only strange thing I noticed was that although it would work with the Trimble tbolt software Lady Heather couldn't recognize