Re: [time-nuts] Antique Rb Standard - Thanks, Pictures, Parts Request, Question

2012-04-30 Thread Attila Kinali
On Sun, 29 Apr 2012 13:19:08 -0700 ed breya e...@telight.com wrote: If the Rb cell drifted enough (maybe if it was filled with water) to de-tune the mechanical cavity resonator, it wouldn't work at all. Only a small amount of the RF power in the cavity is coupled into the Rb gas. The

Re: [time-nuts] Antique Rb Standard - Thanks, Pictures, Parts Request, Question

2012-04-30 Thread Magnus Danielson
On 04/30/2012 10:32 AM, Attila Kinali wrote: On Sun, 29 Apr 2012 13:19:08 -0700 ed breyae...@telight.com wrote: If the Rb cell drifted enough (maybe if it was filled with water) to de-tune the mechanical cavity resonator, it wouldn't work at all. Only a small amount of the RF power in the

Re: [time-nuts] Antique Rb Standard - Thanks, Pictures, Parts Request, Question

2012-04-29 Thread Ed Palmer
Hi Magnus, On 4/28/2012 5:37 PM, Magnus Danielson wrote: Hi Ed, On 04/28/2012 08:43 PM, Ed Palmer wrote: First, I'd like to thank Magnus, Joe, Paul, and Ed for taking the time to provide answers, ideas, and challenges to my assumptions. It has all been very helpful. I'm still working on it so

Re: [time-nuts] Antique Rb Standard - Thanks, Pictures, Parts Request, Question

2012-04-29 Thread ed breya
Yes, very nice pictures. That thing is really built and looks like it should be easy to work on and experiment with. I still have to say that I doubt the cavity is off-tune unless something serious happened to it mechanically. Is it even adjustable? If so, maybe someone previously tried to

Re: [time-nuts] Antique Rb Standard - Thanks, Pictures, Parts Request, Question

2012-04-29 Thread Ed Palmer
Hi Ed, On 4/29/2012 12:28 PM, ed breya wrote: Yes, very nice pictures. That thing is really built and looks like it should be easy to work on and experiment with. I still have to say that I doubt the cavity is off-tune unless something serious happened to it mechanically. Is it even

Re: [time-nuts] Antique Rb Standard - Thanks, Pictures, Parts Request, Question

2012-04-29 Thread ed breya
If the Rb cell drifted enough (maybe if it was filled with water) to de-tune the mechanical cavity resonator, it wouldn't work at all. Only a small amount of the RF power in the cavity is coupled into the Rb gas. The bandwidth of the Rb resonance is a fraction of a Hz (Q in the millions),

Re: [time-nuts] Antique Rb Standard - Thanks, Pictures, Parts Request, Question

2012-04-29 Thread paul swed
I will strongly agree about the cavity and not tuning it. The key is the multiplication chain and unless the srd is bad the rest of the chains pretty reasonable in the frequencies used. Typically a fair amount of power just before the srd. Regards paul. On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 4:19 PM, ed breya

Re: [time-nuts] Antique Rb Standard - Thanks, Pictures, Parts Request, Question

2012-04-29 Thread Magnus Danielson
Hi Ed, On 04/29/2012 05:46 PM, Ed Palmer wrote: Hi Magnus, Second, pictures. If anyone is interested, check out http://s701.photobucket.com/albums/ww18/edpalmer42/Tracor%20304-B/ . Nice photos. Thanks. GAS building up. What does GAS mean? Gear Acquisition Syndrome. GAS is a diagnose

Re: [time-nuts] Antique Rb Standard - Thanks, Pictures, Parts Request, Question

2012-04-29 Thread Cliff Sojourner
On 2012-04-29 16:21, Magnus Danielson wrote: Hi Ed, On 04/29/2012 05:46 PM, Ed Palmer wrote: Hi Magnus, Second, pictures. If anyone is interested, check out http://s701.photobucket.com/albums/ww18/edpalmer42/Tracor%20304-B/ . Nice photos. Thanks. GAS building up. What does GAS mean?

[time-nuts] Antique Rb Standard - Thanks, Pictures, Parts Request, Question

2012-04-28 Thread Ed Palmer
First, I'd like to thank Magnus, Joe, Paul, and Ed for taking the time to provide answers, ideas, and challenges to my assumptions. It has all been very helpful. I'm still working on it so I don't have a resolution yet. Second, pictures. If anyone is interested, check out

Re: [time-nuts] Antique Rb Standard - Thanks, Pictures, Parts Request, Question

2012-04-28 Thread paul swed
Ed Several comments Great pix with the right level of detail to actually see and analyze stuff. Second what a find you have there. A real mans RB nothing small about the gas cells. Good also to see many what I consider to be common components of the late 60s and 70s. Also I noticed little or no

Re: [time-nuts] Antique Rb Standard - Thanks, Pictures, Parts Request, Question

2012-04-28 Thread Robert LaJeunesse
know. Bob L. From: Ed Palmer ed_pal...@sasktel.net To: Time-Nuts time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Sat, April 28, 2012 2:44:06 PM Subject: [time-nuts] Antique Rb Standard - Thanks, Pictures, Parts Request, Question Third, I'd like to build an extender board, but I can't

Re: [time-nuts] Antique Rb Standard - Thanks, Pictures, Parts Request, Question

2012-04-28 Thread Ed Palmer
Paul, On 4/28/2012 1:26 PM, paul swed wrote: Ed Several comments Great pix with the right level of detail to actually see and analyze stuff. Second what a find you have there. A real mans RB nothing small about the gas cells. Exactly. I can use this as an experimental platform for various

Re: [time-nuts] Antique Rb Standard - Thanks, Pictures, Parts Request, Question

2012-04-28 Thread Ed Palmer
To: Time-Nutstime-nuts@febo.com Sent: Sat, April 28, 2012 2:44:06 PM Subject: [time-nuts] Antique Rb Standard - Thanks, Pictures, Parts Request, Question Third, I'd like to build an extender board, but I can't find the connectors. The contacts are called Varicon and are used both on circuit boards

Re: [time-nuts] Antique Rb Standard - Thanks, Pictures, Parts Request, Question

2012-04-28 Thread Magnus Danielson
Ed, On 04/29/2012 12:11 AM, Ed Palmer wrote: Paul, On 4/28/2012 1:26 PM, paul swed wrote: Ed Several comments Great pix with the right level of detail to actually see and analyze stuff. Second what a find you have there. A real mans RB nothing small about the gas cells. Exactly. I can use

Re: [time-nuts] Antique Rb Standard - Thanks, Pictures, Parts Request, Question

2012-04-28 Thread Magnus Danielson
Hi Ed, On 04/28/2012 08:43 PM, Ed Palmer wrote: First, I'd like to thank Magnus, Joe, Paul, and Ed for taking the time to provide answers, ideas, and challenges to my assumptions. It has all been very helpful. I'm still working on it so I don't have a resolution yet. Happy to help, while not

Re: [time-nuts] Antique Rb Standard - Thanks, Pictures, Parts Request, Question

2012-04-28 Thread paul swed
Other thing I have no clue to. What happens to photocells after X years. I suspect they degrade also. Since thats the frontend of the rcvr that would do quite a number. Regards On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 7:37 PM, Magnus Danielson mag...@rubidium.dyndns.org wrote: Hi Ed, On 04/28/2012 08:43 PM,