[time-nuts] DPLL for 10MHz

2012-05-07 Thread Bill Dailey
Does anyone have any knowledge of a simple (just soldering a few connections and maybe programming a hz/volt rate) PCB for synchronizing a precision OCXO to a GPSDO? I am trying to improve short term stability with a high stability OCXO and dont want to cut into my fury and replace the OCXO.

Re: [time-nuts] DPLL for 10MHz

2012-05-07 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message 063ae10c-af96-4f39-9caf-9e5ecc96b...@gmail.com, Bill Dailey writes : Does anyone have any knowledge of a simple (just soldering a few connections and maybe programming a hz/volt rate) PCB for synchronizing a precision OCXO to a GPSDO? I am trying to improve short term stability with a

Re: [time-nuts] DPLL for 10MHz

2012-05-07 Thread EWKehren
Doc contact me off list Bert Kehren In a message dated 5/7/2012 11:40:04 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, docdai...@gmail.com writes: Does anyone have any knowledge of a simple (just soldering a few connections and maybe programming a hz/volt rate) PCB for synchronizing a precision OCXO to

Re: [time-nuts] DPLL for 10MHz

2012-05-07 Thread Eric Garner
This is something I would also like to know. I'm sure many others would be interested as well. Bert would it be possible for you to share your thoughts on the matter with the group at large? -Eric On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 8:43 AM, ewkeh...@aol.com wrote: Doc contact me off list Bert Kehren

Re: [time-nuts] DPLL for 10MHz

2012-05-07 Thread David
On Mon, 07 May 2012 15:34:21 +, Poul-Henning Kamp p...@phk.freebsd.dk wrote: In message 063ae10c-af96-4f39-9caf-9e5ecc96b...@gmail.com, Bill Dailey writes : Does anyone have any knowledge of a simple (just soldering a few connections and maybe programming a hz/volt rate) PCB for synchronizing

Re: [time-nuts] DPLL for 10MHz

2012-05-07 Thread EWKehren
Tried, no interest, some one has offered to in the future do a gate array version, you may want to wait for that I am in the mean time using am analog loop for less than 100 seconds between Rb and OCXO and a very modified Shera for GPS/Rb. Works for me. Contact me off list and we can talk.

Re: [time-nuts] DPLL for 10MHz

2012-05-07 Thread Azelio Boriani
Using the PPS as a sync source? On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 6:24 PM, ewkeh...@aol.com wrote: Tried, no interest, some one has offered to in the future do a gate array version, you may want to wait for that I am in the mean time using am analog loop for less than 100 seconds between Rb and OCXO

Re: [time-nuts] DPLL for 10MHz

2012-05-07 Thread Azelio Boriani
The Vectron TRU-050 is a PLL with an integrated VCXO. You can sync a 10MHz OCXO but not from a GPS receiver with the PPS only. On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 6:29 PM, Azelio Boriani azelio.bori...@screen.itwrote: Using the PPS as a sync source? On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 6:24 PM, ewkeh...@aol.com wrote:

Re: [time-nuts] DPLL for 10MHz

2012-05-07 Thread Attila Kinali
On Mon, 7 May 2012 10:30:56 -0500 Bill Dailey docdai...@gmail.com wrote: Does anyone have any knowledge of a simple (just soldering a few connections and maybe programming a hz/volt rate) PCB for synchronizing a precision OCXO to a GPSDO? I am trying to improve short term stability with a

Re: [time-nuts] DPLL for 10MHz

2012-05-07 Thread Chris Albertson
On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 9:54 AM, Attila Kinali att...@kinali.ch wrote: What speaks against a simple design as used in the GPSDO by James Miller[1]? Or if you want a better PLL than just an XOR gate, use a 74x4046. They are still available in DIL, so building a complete PLL is possible on a

Re: [time-nuts] DPLL for 10MHz

2012-05-07 Thread EWKehren
I am patiently waiting for the code to drive the DAC. Bert Kehren In a message dated 5/7/2012 12:54:54 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, att...@kinali.ch writes: On Mon, 7 May 2012 10:30:56 -0500 Bill Dailey docdai...@gmail.com wrote: Does anyone have any knowledge of a simple (just soldering

Re: [time-nuts] DPLL for 10MHz

2012-05-07 Thread Attila Kinali
On Mon, 7 May 2012 12:17:02 -0500 Bill Dailey docdai...@gmail.com wrote: Regarding the vectron tru-050 looks nice but requires me to come up with a board and resistors and capacitors etc which is above my ability. Uhmm... how far does your abilities go? I looked at the miller thing but

Re: [time-nuts] DPLL for 10MHz

2012-05-07 Thread Azelio Boriani
OK, so 1 PPS GPS to Rb - need a TIC; 10MHz Rb to OCXO - need a PLL. Are you interested in an all digital 10nS single shot TIC that gives you a 2's complement number (negative at the left of the GPS PPS and positive at the right)? Here it is. This is my TIC, I use it on all my GPSDOs. LIBRARY

Re: [time-nuts] DPLL for 10MHz

2012-05-07 Thread Bill Dailey
Regarding my abilities.. regarding electronics... poor soldering is about my limit... through hole only. That is why I was hoping there was some off the shelf method that I could wire up with 10 MHz in from the gspdo and from the oscillator then wire up the EFC volatge and set the required

Re: [time-nuts] DPLL for 10MHz

2012-05-07 Thread Azelio Boriani
I'm running (although running isn't quite correct for VHDL) this on a 50Kgates Xilinx XC3S50 FPGA. Of course this can be compiled on whatever brand of logic you prefer, I've not used any proprietary/strange (other than local clocks, which are usually discouraged) property. Of course this is only a

Re: [time-nuts] DPLL for 10MHz

2012-05-07 Thread Tom Knox
I do not know if this is the type of solution you were looking for but Wenzel builds a fantastic LNPLL. Thomas Knox Date: Mon, 7 May 2012 16:11:13 -0500 From: docdai...@gmail.com To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] DPLL for 10MHz Regarding my abilities.. regarding