Re: [time-nuts] Efratom M3100

2012-04-03 Thread EWKehren
Ed Thank you for your interest. I have checked many of the circuits which is made easy in some cases because it is a duplication of the M100 in some areas and the FRS in others. I have both for comparison. Do to the very high densely packaging is it not easy to probe since some of the

Re: [time-nuts] Efratom M3100

2012-04-02 Thread Magnus Danielson
On 04/02/2012 02:33 AM, ewkeh...@aol.com wrote: Magnus I am systematically checking every thing. Power is every where, get a very strong 60 MHz with the 5.3125 clearly visible on the spectrum analyzer also counted both with a counter, checked the 85 Hz modulation on the tuning diode, is a

Re: [time-nuts] Efratom M3100

2012-04-02 Thread EWKehren
Magnus RC oscillator and demodulator along with the 1 uF and integrator are all standard Efratom, use different pins and the oscillator is 2.72 KHz the problem is the signal path from the detector to the demodulator. That is what I am looking for. Will get there. will take time. Thanks

Re: [time-nuts] Efratom M3100

2012-04-02 Thread ed breya
I have some SPTB-100 units, which are similar to M100 units, which may be similar to yours. A few years ago, one failed to lock, regardless of adjustment, and I found that one of the integrator capacitors in the OCXO control loop was very leaky. I don't recall which one, and couldn't even

[time-nuts] Efratom M3100

2012-04-01 Thread EWKehren
In the past I have asked if some one has any info of the Efratom M3100. I have carefully dissected the unit and checked functionality. It sweeps but does not lock. Lamp signal is strong 60 MHz and 5.xx all work properly and can be seen on a spectrum analyzer The problem is in the loop and

Re: [time-nuts] Efratom M3100

2012-04-01 Thread paul swed
Strange indeed Bert I put the whole number into google and had 5 hits. The first number is actually JM then the number but its a quad voltage comparator according to the data archive. pdf is available and looks like numbers of manufacturers made it. PMI TI Nat nalog dev. They are still available

Re: [time-nuts] Efratom M3100

2012-04-01 Thread EWKehren
Paul thank you. I tried google and only got links to advertise other parts. Makes sense, unit has a summary bit output, probably checks 4 levels and gives a lock output. Different from M100 and other Efratom products. Still hunting for the 85 Hz, 127 Hz on the M100 is 5V pp into the phase

Re: [time-nuts] Efratom M3100

2012-04-01 Thread Michael Blazer
The JM38510/11201BCA crosses to a LM139 which is the Mil-Spec version of the LM339. Mike On 4/1/2012 2:39 PM, ewkeh...@aol.com wrote: Paul thank you. I tried google and only got links to advertise other parts. Makes sense, unit has a summary bit output, probably checks 4 levels and gives

Re: [time-nuts] Efratom M3100

2012-04-01 Thread EWKehren
Thanks Mike In a message dated 4/1/2012 4:33:51 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, mbla...@satx.rr.com writes: The JM38510/11201BCA crosses to a LM139 which is the Mil-Spec version of the LM339. Mike On 4/1/2012 2:39 PM, ewkeh...@aol.com wrote: Paul thank you. I tried google and only

Re: [time-nuts] Efratom M3100

2012-04-01 Thread Magnus Danielson
Bert, On 04/01/2012 07:50 PM, ewkeh...@aol.com wrote: In the past I have asked if some one has any info of the Efratom M3100. I have carefully dissected the unit and checked functionality. It sweeps but does not lock. Lamp signal is strong 60 MHz and 5.xx all work properly and can be seen on

Re: [time-nuts] Efratom M3100

2012-04-01 Thread EWKehren
Magnus I am systematically checking every thing. Power is every where, get a very strong 60 MHz with the 5.3125 clearly visible on the spectrum analyzer also counted both with a counter, checked the 85 Hz modulation on the tuning diode, is a small signal but the same on my working M 100.

[time-nuts] Efratom M3100

2011-07-27 Thread EWKehren
Just received a Efratom M3100. I have no information and before I power it up I like to know if any one has experience with this unit. Looking at the construction it is definitely mil quality, machined frames, JX and JM parts,mil connector etc. Definitely not a low cost version. Date Code