Re: [time-nuts] GPS Timing Source -- looking at buying

2010-07-15 Thread Magnus Danielson
On 07/12/2010 02:15 PM, Bob Camp wrote: Hi The original post simply mentioned EBU. Thus the confusion. I think they mean SMPTE 12M LTC. VITC would also be possible, and not completely without its merrits, but I doubt it. AES has not cranked out any synchronisation specs beyond the DARS in

Re: [time-nuts] GPS Timing Source -- looking at buying

2010-07-12 Thread Bob Camp
-Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Bob Camp Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 8:38 AM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] GPS Timing Source -- looking at buying Hi The Thunderbolt has

Re: [time-nuts] GPS Timing Source -- looking at buying

2010-07-11 Thread Ed, k1ggi
AM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] GPS Timing Source -- looking at buying Hi The Thunderbolt has a GPS and an OCXO inside it. It's built in smarts align a PPS created from the OCXO to the GPS PPS. This allows the PPS to be more stable than a normal

Re: [time-nuts] GPS Timing Source -- looking at buying

2010-07-10 Thread Chris H
...@archnetnz.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] GPS Timing Source -- looking at buying To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com Date: Friday, 9 July, 2010, 8:54 Which is the 18X and looking at the manual for it, it says it's 1pps with 1 microsecond

Re: [time-nuts] GPS Timing Source -- looking at buying

2010-07-09 Thread Paul Nicholson
Chris H wrote: Would be good as a timing source for GPS ... make a PC into a Stratum 0 timing device? I think it would count as stratum 1, since you are 1 hop away from a master time source. This page may be of interest, http://www.satsignal.eu/ntp/FreeBSD-GPS-PPS.htm Trimble Thunderbolts

Re: [time-nuts] GPS Timing Source -- looking at buying

2010-07-09 Thread Chris H
Yes sorry -- stratum 1 -- brain fart :( On Fri, 2010-07-09 at 06:32 +, Paul Nicholson wrote: Chris H wrote: Would be good as a timing source for GPS ... make a PC into a Stratum 0 timing device? I think it would count as stratum 1, since you are 1 hop away from a master time

Re: [time-nuts] GPS Timing Source -- looking at buying

2010-07-09 Thread Chris H
I might go for the Garmin one to start with, and see how it all works.. and then move up to a more reliable source of timing source in the future... When you say Reliable, what exactly do you all mean--- does it loose time? Does it loose lock to the satellites? because it's only millisecond

Re: [time-nuts] GPS Timing Source -- looking at buying

2010-07-09 Thread Hal Murray
ch...@archnetnz.com said: I found this one: Garmin GPS 18 PC GPS Engine http://www.triginstruments.co.nz/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=1301os Csid=b80759ac903096c20d806ddeb3d71121 Which is the 18X and looking at the manual for it, it says it's 1pps with 1 microsecond accuracy. Yup.

Re: [time-nuts] GPS Timing Source -- looking at buying

2010-07-09 Thread Chris H
Which is the 18X and looking at the manual for it, it says it's 1pps with 1 microsecond accuracy. Yup. That URL is for the LVC version. The PC version is the one powered from a cigarette lighter. (Your first line above says PC when I assume you mean LVC.) Sorry -- I had book marked

Re: [time-nuts] GPS Timing Source -- looking at buying

2010-07-09 Thread Robert Atkinson
://www.dc2light.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Webpage/PALISADE-Manual.zip   Robert G8RPI. --- On Fri, 9/7/10, Chris H timen...@archnetnz.com wrote: From: Chris H timen...@archnetnz.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] GPS Timing Source -- looking at buying To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com Date: Friday, 9

Re: [time-nuts] GPS Timing Source -- looking at buying

2010-07-09 Thread Robert Atkinson
Also see http://www.eecis.udel.edu/~mills/ntp/html/drivers/driver29.html For palisade Tbolt NTP info.   Robert G8RPI. --- On Fri, 9/7/10, Chris H timen...@archnetnz.com wrote: From: Chris H timen...@archnetnz.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] GPS Timing Source -- looking at buying To: Discussion

Re: [time-nuts] GPS Timing Source -- looking at buying

2010-07-09 Thread Bob Camp
Hi The Thunderbolt has a GPS and an OCXO inside it. It's built in smarts align a PPS created from the OCXO to the GPS PPS. This allows the PPS to be more stable than a normal GPS PPS (less jitter). It also provides holdover on the PPS if and when GPS sat's are not available. Since your

Re: [time-nuts] GPS Timing Source -- looking at buying

2010-07-09 Thread Peter Vince
Hal (and everyone) In television and radio broadcasting we use a time code that is a Manchester-encoded 2000 bps (50 Hz countries) or 2400 bps (60 Hz countries) signal which has been low-pass filtered (~7.5 KHz) so that it can be directly recorded on an analogue audio track. EBU is the

Re: [time-nuts] GPS Timing Source -- looking at buying

2010-07-09 Thread Chris H
Yeah the AES / EBU timing is just to sync clocks in house, it's not actually going to be used as a genlock source for equipment.. just slave clock displays... On Fri, 2010-07-09 at 08:38 -0400, Bob Camp wrote: Hi The Thunderbolt has a GPS and an OCXO inside it. It's built in smarts align a

[time-nuts] GPS Timing Source -- looking at buying

2010-07-08 Thread Chris H
(Whoops will post from the correct address this time) Hello, I was just wondering if the following product: http://www.triginstruments.co.nz/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=1302osCsid=b80759ac903096c20d806ddeb3d71121 Would be good as a timing source for GPS -- does it have the

Re: [time-nuts] GPS Timing Source -- looking at buying

2010-07-08 Thread Bob Camp
Hi For less money, you can get a Thunderbolt on the e-place. It will get you a lot closer to your goal while not making it to Stratum-0. Bob On Jul 8, 2010, at 8:42 PM, Chris H wrote: (Whoops will post from the correct address this time) Hello, I was just wondering if the following

Re: [time-nuts] GPS Timing Source -- looking at buying

2010-07-08 Thread Chris H
(That Price was New Zealand Dollars) I ideally would like to really do one of two things... EBU Timecode in LTC format (audio timecode) or Make a linux box into a master time source... It says I need windows XP and things, or is that just to configure and check connectivity.. I have a Sun

Re: [time-nuts] GPS Timing Source -- looking at buying

2010-07-08 Thread Chris H
Just quoted $1,000+ USD for the thunderbolt.. so not really the sort of money I want to spend on this little project :) On Thu, 2010-07-08 at 20:45 -0400, Bob Camp wrote: Hi For less money, you can get a Thunderbolt on the e-place. It will get you a lot closer to your goal while not making

Re: [time-nuts] GPS Timing Source -- looking at buying

2010-07-08 Thread Bob Camp
Hi Thunderbolts show up regularly on eBay for $60 plus about $25 in shipping. There are standard NTP drivers that appear to work ok with them. Bob On Jul 8, 2010, at 9:15 PM, Chris H wrote: Just quoted $1,000+ USD for the thunderbolt.. so not really the sort of money I want to spend on

Re: [time-nuts] GPS Timing Source -- looking at buying

2010-07-08 Thread Hal Murray
I was just wondering if the following product: http://www.triginstruments.co.nz/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=1302os Csid=b80759ac903096c20d806ddeb3d71121 That's a Garming GPS-18 PC, the version that gets power from a cigarette lighter. (What are they called now that lots of people