Moin,
Taking this off-list as this is getting far too OT.
On Sun, 14 Feb 2016 14:20:52 -0500
"William H. Fite" wrote:
> They don't wonder; they know very well. But they're stuck. Consider
> oscilloscopes. Why pay for a Keysight or Tectronix or LeCroy or, God
> forbid, a Rohde & Schwarz when, fo
In message , Bob Camp writes:
>there is a pretty long list of companies that had a good thing
>going through the 50’s and 60’s.
That "thing" is called "the cold war" where USA poured 10-20% of the
entire federal budget into high-tech and consequent innovations.
(while claiming to be a
On 2/14/2016 11:20 AM, William H. Fite wrote:
They don't wonder; they know very well. But they're stuck. Consider
oscilloscopes. Why pay for a Keysight or Tectronix or LeCroy or, God
forbid, a Rohde & Schwarz when, for the vast majority of applications, a
Rigol will give you everything you need
HI
I can indeed think back to the 70’s and at least somewhat earlier than that.
Without naming names (and getting
everybody mad), there is a pretty long list of companies that had a good thing
going through the 50’s and 60’s.
I worked for several of them. Life was good. Big money was made in m
Up to roughly the mid-1970s, even ordinary mortals, HP employees, could
fly first class if you were traveling on company business for HP and the
flight was longer than 3 hours. Even I, an lowly process engineer,
included in a shopping trip "back east" to Boston and Philly, got to fly
first clas
I was never with HP but I bought (using Hughes Aircraft and US government money)
megabucks worth of HP Instruments. The whole facility bought millions more.
The local Tucson HP sales office had a salesman assigned just to Hughes. They
showered us with catalogs, app notes, training programs, se
I was with HP 1972-79, when it was still a great company. The vertical
integration was such that there was a joke about HP plant site
landscaping, which always seemed to feature ferns. The reply was ,
"We're making our own coal!" We not only had packaging engineers but
made our own cabinets. We
When in the field and one of those cheap 'disposable' instruments fail and
pointed questions are asked That's when you miss the quality of the old HP
gear And I still use the old pre Carly gear precisely because it can be
trusted to work in adverse conditions even though one needs to wash th
Totally agree. Disposable and cheap. Plus the companies don't intend to
stay in business but get picked up by some larger company
Still amazing for little you can pick up this modern gear and it happily
communicates with your laptop generally speaking.
Still like my 400lbs of test HP and Tek ge
The ex-CEO of whom you speak was never over the instrument business. The
Agilent spinoff occurred just before that reign. Many people seem to have that
mistaken notion.
>From Tom Holmes, N8ZM
> On Feb 14, 2016, at 2:28 PM, Gregory Muir wrote:
>
> Having been in the product design world (bot
Quite often it works, but sometimes it does not,
not to long time ego I had to investigate one non-linearity case with a
high mode QAM signal, there was something, what not supposed to be
there, the only spectrum analyzer which had enough dynamic range was one
from Rohde&Schwarz,
73
K6UHN
Alex
I personally knew Howard Vollum for many years and at one time R&S sold the TEK
products in Europe ! Ulrich Rohde
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> On Feb 14, 2016, at 2:28 PM, "Gregory Muir" wrote:
>
> Having been in the product design world (both MIL and commercial/medical) for
> most of my life, I dev
They don't wonder; they know very well. But they're stuck. Consider
oscilloscopes. Why pay for a Keysight or Tectronix or LeCroy or, God
forbid, a Rohde & Schwarz when, for the vast majority of applications, a
Rigol will give you everything you need at 1/N the cost?
The hugely expensive, overbuilt
Having been in the product design world (both MIL and commercial/medical) for
most of my life, I developed a very deep respect for HP quality and reliability
over the years. It wasn't uncommon for management to peek into the lab and
find me poking around inside a piece of HP equipment to see ho
HP's greatest advantage of old was being the largest and best vertically
integrated technology company as innovations in one line of business were often
applicable to others.This was right down to things as prosaic as packaging
and or hybrid circuit design
Now Keysight is just another mid
A few clarifications:
Before 1999, HP had a Medical Division that made
equipment you saw in hospitals and a Scientific
Instrument Division that made chemical analysis
equipment used in medical laboratories (and also
other laboratories). IIRC, both began as
acquisitions. The Agilent spin off in
We have had mixed results with HP/Agilent/Keysight over the years. Our
experience with their repair and customer service has been less favorable.
One area where my experience has been unfavorable has been with the Genesys
software. We bought it back when it was still owned by Randy Rhea, and I
thou
My bet is that the split between Medical and Test Equipment is to
facilitate the eventual sale of one or the other division.
As for reliability I have mostly HP and Tektronix in my stable with an
odd Racal and Boonton piece here and there. The Boontons never fail (
arguably much simpler) but t
HP built their reputation for quality and reliability with test equipment.
Computers were always considered a bit weird (in a nice way, in the case of
handheld calculators) but printers have followed the consumer race to the
bottom.
It's sad to hear that the instrument division are no longer focus
On 14 Feb 2016 09:04, "Perry Sandeen via time-nuts"
wrote:
>
> Hi,
> It is rather depressing to me to hear RK and others remark about the
unreliability of HP test equipment.
> There is one area where they had outstanding equipment.
I have a friend with a fairly large lab. He must have 50 signa
Hi,
Rather, it was because Agilent was known for it's fine medical stuff
that the instrument part didn't fit in and put into a separate company.
Similarly since HP was known for its computers, printers and scanners,
the medical and instrument parts didn't fit into the HP brand.
In the proces
Hi,
Spent the flight back from PTTI next to a HP, then Agilent medical guy.
Aparently the medical stuff did not go into Keysight, they remain Agilent.
--
Björn
> Hi,
> It is rather depressing to me to hear RK and others remark about the
> unreliability of HP test equipment.
> There is one a
Hi,
It is rather depressing to me to hear RK and others remark about the
unreliability of HP test equipment.
There is one area where they had outstanding equipment.
I was involved with repairing HP medical equipment for 25 years and it was
awesome stuff. This was the same info I got from other BM
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