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Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2013 9:30 PM
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Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Locked onto LORAN 8970 GRI Monday AM
Oh what a detour. It sounds like I may need to build a small loop stick
antenna to see
Has anyone thought to ask them what their intentions are?
It would seem to me that if they are interested in re-activating
enough of the old LORAN-C network to provide time service that they
might want to talk to folks that used to rely on LORAN-C for time
service...
-Chuck Harris
Stan, W1LE
Chuck
Their interest is indeed a time service as an alternate to GPS. There is no
intent to re-activate much of the actual chains its not for the old
location service at all. UrsaNav has published several ppts that show what
there interests seem to be.
I think the key business is selling new rcvrs
Hi Paul,
I guess my point is, what is the point in firing up the
transmitter for hours at a time, using the old coding, if
they aren't planning on using the old coding?
They could be doing propagation tests, but all of that was
worked out 40 years ago and is available in white papers
galore.
http://www.insidegnss.com/node/3361
Paul, I'm not so sure about a big power bill. The average power of a LORAN
transmitter is not high.
-John
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Chuck
Their interest is indeed a time service as an alternate to GPS. There is
no
intent to re-activate much of the actual chains its
Hi Paul,
I thought I was receiving Wildwood which is 3 miles or so away but
apparently not. I nulled out the sig with my LFL1010 loop and get a null
about 30 degrees which is toward Boston but maybe it could be Seneca after
figuring antenna error and Mag variation. Signal strength with the loop
at 17:45Z, after 27 hours of continuous lock:
freq offset is now -2.1E-12 and has been as low as -7E-13, compared to
T'Bolt 10 MHz.
Master station is at 59 dB, slave is at 63 dB signal strength.
Stan,W1LE Cape Cod
On 2/5/2013 12:12 PM, Bill Riches wrote:
Hi Paul,
I thought I was
and frequency measurement
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Locked onto LORAN 8970 GRI Monday AM
at 17:45Z, after 27 hours of continuous lock:
freq offset is now -2.1E-12 and has been as low as -7E-13, compared to
T'Bolt 10 MHz.
Master station is at 59 dB, slave is at 63 dB signal strength.
Stan,W1LE Cape Cod
Stan in agreement with your figures using a HP3801 as the gps ref.
As to the location I don't really have any way to tell the direction. I
really have to believe its still the test facility down in NJ. But I have
no clue.
Regards
Paul.
On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 12:51 PM, Stan, W1LE
: [time-nuts] Locked onto LORAN 8970 GRI Monday AM
at 17:45Z, after 27 hours of continuous lock:
freq offset is now -2.1E-12 and has been as low as -7E-13, compared to
T'Bolt 10 MHz.
Master station is at 59 dB, slave is at 63 dB signal strength.
Stan,W1LE Cape Cod
On 2/5/2013 12:12 PM, Bill
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Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2013 12:52 PM
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Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Locked onto LORAN 8970 GRI Monday AM
at 17:45Z, after 27 hours of continuous lock:
freq offset
There seems to be someone thinking that all LORAN-C stations are shut down,
and this is not correct.
I know first hand from the Eidi and Bø chain, that both are drifted by
their host nations, as this responcibility was transfered to them from the
USCG in 1995. I beleve most on foregin soil are
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Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2013 1:16 PM
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Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Locked onto LORAN 8970 GRI Monday AM
There isn't a way to tell what station it is. Its just the gri rate with a
delay
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Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Locked onto LORAN 8970 GRI Monday AM
There isn't a way to tell what station it is. Its just the gri rate with a
delay to the x station.
But I assume its the same actual modulator and site.
My 2 cents.
Regards
Paul.
On Tue, Feb 5, 2013
Hi:
Here's a table of US stations back when they were operational with links to
Google images of the sites.
http://www.prc68.com/I/Loran-c.shtml
Have Fun,
Brooke Clarke
http://www.PRC68.com
http://www.end2partygovernment.com/2012Issues.html
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Hello Bill,
I have no real idea. I can not DF at this time. Antenna is an omni.
I suspect the FS700 receiver looks at GRI data and placement within the
waveform
and goes to a look up table in firmware to tell me the supposed location
to the LORAN plan 10 years ago.
Only thing that may be
time and frequency measurement
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Locked onto LORAN 8970 GRI Monday AM
Hello Bill,
I have no real idea. I can not DF at this time. Antenna is an omni.
I suspect the FS700 receiver looks at GRI data and placement within the
waveform and goes to a look up table in firmware
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2013 1:25 PM
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Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Locked onto LORAN 8970 GRI Monday AM
Hello Bill,
I have no real idea. I can not DF at this time. Antenna is an omni.
I suspect the FS700 receiver looks at GRI data
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Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2013 1:25 PM
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Hello Bill,
I have
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Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2013 1:25 PM
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Hello Bill,
I have no real idea. I can not DF at this time. Antenna is an omni.
I suspect
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Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Locked onto LORAN 8970 GRI Monday AM
Hello Bill,
I have no real idea. I can not DF at this time. Antenna
Have had lock onto slave Seneca for about 20 minutes on GRI 8970.
compared to GPS/DO: phase offset 3.6 degrees, freq offset 6E-11
Stan, W1LE Cape Cod
On 2/4/2013 9:48 AM, paul swed wrote:
Don't hear LORAN today
On Sun, Feb 3, 2013 at 6:18 PM, Stan, W1LE stanw...@verizon.net wrote:
Hello
Yes indeed they are on the air.
Must have had to have the coffee while the solid state finals warmed up.
Looks like a 10am start of the day, like banks.
Paul
WB8TSL
On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 10:05 AM, Stan, W1LE stanw...@verizon.net wrote:
Have had lock onto slave Seneca for about 20 minutes on
Stan indeed the srs700is locked and stabilizing. Fired up the austrons also
and they are locking. So is the LORAN workday 1000 to 1700 EST?? Or is it a
work week 1000 Monday to 1700 Friday?
Regards
Paul.
On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 10:33 AM, paul swed paulsw...@gmail.com wrote:
Yes indeed they are
Boy LORAN austron2100 and 2100f and GPS HP3801are tracking really well. The
Austrons are 1.5-2.0 E-12. Pretty much getting at there limits after 5
hours.
Regards
Paul.
On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 11:31 AM, paul swed paulsw...@gmail.com wrote:
Stan indeed the srs700is locked and stabilizing. Fired
I suspect my software version on the fs700 does not support the 2nd phase
menu that allows a longer then 1 sec offset count.
Regards
Paul.
On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 2:44 PM, paul swed paulsw...@gmail.com wrote:
Boy LORAN austron2100 and 2100f and GPS HP3801are tracking really well.
The Austrons
Great. Now if the transmissions continue and the format doesn't change!
-John
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Boy LORAN austron2100 and 2100f and GPS HP3801are tracking really well.
The
Austrons are 1.5-2.0 E-12. Pretty much getting at there limits after 5
hours.
Regards
Paul.
On Mon, Feb 4, 2013
We can only dream. But will take what I can get for as long as I can get
it. It sure in the heck kicks wwvb's capabilities.
Regards
Paul
On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 6:20 PM, J. Forster j...@quikus.com wrote:
Great. Now if the transmissions continue and the format doesn't change!
-John
After 11:20 hours still tracking and locked to LORAN.
Frequency offset compared to my T'Bolt GPS/DO is -2.5E12.
Stan W1LE Cape Cod
On 2/4/2013 8:56 PM, paul swed wrote:
We can only dream. But will take what I can get for as long as I can get
it. It sure in the heck kicks wwvb's
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