Re: [time-nuts] Low noise voltage regulators

2010-02-26 Thread Magnus Danielson
Bruce Griffiths wrote: Garry Thorp wrote: With the 723, you can make the reference noise as low as you want, by heavy RC filtering. This applies whether you use its own reference or a better external reference. The 723 also seems to work quite happily with a feedback capacitor from the output

Re: [time-nuts] Low noise voltage regulators

2010-02-26 Thread Bruce Griffiths
Magnus Danielson wrote: Bruce Griffiths wrote: Garry Thorp wrote: With the 723, you can make the reference noise as low as you want, by heavy RC filtering. This applies whether you use its own reference or a better external reference. The 723 also seems to work quite happily with a feedback

Re: [time-nuts] Low noise voltage regulators

2010-02-25 Thread Garry Thorp
With the 723, you can make the reference noise as low as you want, by heavy RC filtering. This applies whether you use its own reference or a better external reference. The 723 also seems to work quite happily with a feedback capacitor from the output to the inverting input, reducing the AC gain

Re: [time-nuts] Low noise voltage regulators

2010-02-25 Thread Bruce Griffiths
Garry Thorp wrote: With the 723, you can make the reference noise as low as you want, by heavy RC filtering. This applies whether you use its own reference or a better external reference. The 723 also seems to work quite happily with a feedback capacitor from the output to the inverting input,

Re: [time-nuts] Low noise voltage regulators

2010-02-25 Thread Charles P. Steinmetz
Garry wrote: With the 723, you can make the reference noise as low as you want, by heavy RC filtering. This applies whether you use its own reference or a better external reference. The 723 also seems to work quite happily with a feedback capacitor from the output to the inverting input,

[time-nuts] Low noise voltage regulators

2010-02-24 Thread Neville Michie
Hi, I remember a reference, probably by Bruce, that LEDS provide a low noise voltage reference. I am proposing to build a voltage regulator for a thermally controlled LPRO rubidium oscillator, with the voltage regulator being mounted on the 0.5 inch thick aluminium heat sink plate. The LEDS

Re: [time-nuts] Low noise voltage regulators

2010-02-24 Thread Matthew Smith
Quoth Neville Michie at 2010-02-25 08:27... ...the LM317 output would provide a low noise power source? What would be better? Can't give you a proper answer, but the last time I saw this type of question raised, someone pointed me to a linear regulator made from discrete components, designed

Re: [time-nuts] Low noise voltage regulators

2010-02-24 Thread Brooke Clarke
Hi neville: My old Gibbs rack mount 5 MHz standard used the LM723 linear regulator. I believe it's one of the lowest noise regulators you can use. http://www.national.com/mpf/LM/LM723.html#Overview Have Fun, Brooke Clarke http://www.PRC68.com Neville Michie wrote: Hi, I remember a

Re: [time-nuts] Low noise voltage regulators

2010-02-24 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message 4b85a2eb.4000...@pacific.net, Brooke Clarke writes: My old Gibbs rack mount 5 MHz standard used the LM723 linear regulator. I believe it's one of the lowest noise regulators you can use. http://www.national.com/mpf/LM/LM723.html#Overview If you really want to get low noise, you do

Re: [time-nuts] Low noise voltage regulators

2010-02-24 Thread Bob Camp
To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: [time-nuts] Low noise voltage regulators Hi, I remember a reference, probably by Bruce, that LEDS provide a low noise voltage reference. I am proposing to build a voltage regulator for a thermally controlled LPRO rubidium oscillator

Re: [time-nuts] Low noise voltage regulators

2010-02-24 Thread Arnold Tibus
Hi, NS gives some informations about improvements in their AN-173.pdf http://www.national.com/ds.cgi/LM/LM117.pdf Audio freaks are discussing it in http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/solid-state/28978-improving-lm3x7-regulator-circuit.html Is that what you are looking for? 73 Arnold On Thu, 25 Feb

Re: [time-nuts] Low noise voltage regulators

2010-02-24 Thread Bruce Griffiths
: Wednesday, February 24, 2010 4:57 PM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: [time-nuts] Low noise voltage regulators Hi, I remember a reference, probably by Bruce, that LEDS provide a low noise voltage reference. I am proposing to build a voltage regulator for a thermally

Re: [time-nuts] Low noise voltage regulators

2010-02-24 Thread Didier Juges
: Thu, 25 Feb 2010 11:22:02 To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurementtime-nuts@febo.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Low noise voltage regulators You can improve the performance of the LM723 if one substitutes an LM329 for the internal reference biased from the regulator output. The trick

Re: [time-nuts] Low noise voltage regulators

2010-02-24 Thread Bruce Griffiths
and frequency measurementtime-nuts@febo.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Low noise voltage regulators You can improve the performance of the LM723 if one substitutes an LM329 for the internal reference biased from the regulator output. The trick is to use the internal reference for startup and decouple

Re: [time-nuts] Low noise voltage regulators

2010-02-24 Thread Bruce Griffiths
I meant something like the attached circuit schematic for an LM723 based 15V regulator. The circuit can be easily extended to use an external pass transistor where more current is needed. The LM329 is biased from the regulator output which improves the reference line rejection. The 723's

Re: [time-nuts] Low noise voltage regulators

2010-02-24 Thread WB6BNQ
Bruce, Why not just use a diode in place of the 2M3904 circuit ? Seems like it would do the same thing with less parts. Also, would not the Texas Instruments TL-431 be a better choice as it has a lower noise spec them the LM329 part. In addition, with its adjustable nature, the TL-431 would