Re: [time-nuts] Measuring Phase diference between different, GPSDO

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Re: [time-nuts] Measuring Phase diference between different GPSDO

2013-05-03 Thread John Miles
-Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Mark C. Stephens Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2013 9:29 PM To: li...@lazygranch.com; Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Measuring Phase

Re: [time-nuts] Measuring Phase diference between different GPSDO

2013-05-03 Thread Bob Camp
time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Measuring Phase diference between different GPSDO Meditating on this a bit, I assume in a strict sense, you can only consider GPSDOs phase locked if they are disciplined from the same GPS. Or is this being pedantic

Re: [time-nuts] Measuring Phase diference between different GPSDO

2013-05-03 Thread Mark C. Stephens
To: 'Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement'; li...@lazygranch.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Measuring Phase diference between different GPSDO -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Mark C. Stephens Sent: Thursday, May 02

Re: [time-nuts] Measuring Phase diference between different GPSDO

2013-05-03 Thread Mark C. Stephens
To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Measuring Phase diference between different GPSDO Meditating on this a bit, I assume in a strict sense, you can only consider GPSDOs phase locked if they are disciplined from the same GPS. Or is this being pedantic

Re: [time-nuts] Measuring Phase diference between different GPSDO

2013-05-03 Thread Azelio Boriani
May 2013 5:30 PM To: 'Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement'; li...@lazygranch.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Measuring Phase diference between different GPSDO -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Mark

Re: [time-nuts] Measuring Phase diference between different GPSDO

2013-05-03 Thread Azelio Boriani
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Measuring Phase diference between different GPSDO According to http://www.realhamradio.com/z3801a-turning-point.htm they use a HP 3575A phase meter to perform the measurement. Or perhaps I have misinterpreted the whole thing? 5370Bs were a $20,000 instrument

Re: [time-nuts] Measuring Phase diference between different GPSDO

2013-05-03 Thread Al Wolfe
How about just running the two different 10 mhz outputs into a doubly balanced mixer and monitoring the DC output with a volt meter from the IF port of the mixer? Sure beats $20,000 for a fancy HP. Of course this is a very simple method and is boring as heck to sit and watch a voltmeter but it

[time-nuts] Measuring Phase diference between different GPSDO

2013-05-02 Thread Mark C. Stephens
I'd like to perform some comparison between a known good GPSDO and some newcomers. I want to adjust the crystal turning point as my new GPSDO tend to wander all over the place. I see some of you are using the hp 3575A to do this. Unfortunately, they are a little out of my price range at the

Re: [time-nuts] Measuring Phase diference between different GPSDO

2013-05-02 Thread Bob Camp
Hi FIrst step is to fire up the 5370B counter and see if it works. If there's a problem re-seat all the boards and see if that fixes it. Simple way to check it is to let it count it's own reference. Once you have that working, then yes, measuring time between PPS outputs is the way to go.

Re: [time-nuts] Measuring Phase diference between different GPSDO

2013-05-02 Thread lists
Meditating on this a bit, I assume in a strict sense, you can only consider GPSDOs phase locked if they are disciplined from the same GPS. Or is this being pedantic? ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to

Re: [time-nuts] Measuring Phase diference between different GPSDO

2013-05-02 Thread Mark C. Stephens
- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Bob Camp Sent: Friday, 3 May 2013 11:42 AM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Measuring Phase diference between different GPSDO Hi FIrst step is to fire up the 5370B

Re: [time-nuts] Measuring Phase diference between different GPSDO

2013-05-02 Thread Mark C. Stephens
Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Mark C. Stephens Sent: Friday, 3 May 2013 1:09 PM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Measuring Phase diference between different GPSDO It is as you said Bob, I

Re: [time-nuts] Measuring Phase diference between different GPSDO

2013-05-02 Thread Mark C. Stephens
of an issue. mark -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of li...@lazygranch.com Sent: Friday, 3 May 2013 12:12 PM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Measuring Phase diference between