Re: [time-nuts] More Z3801/Tbolt comparisons

2009-09-04 Thread Lux, Jim (337C)
> -Original Message- > From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On > Behalf Of Stan, W1LE > Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 10:27 AM > To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement > Subject: Re: [time-nuts] More Z3801/Tbolt com

Re: [time-nuts] More Z3801/Tbolt comparisons

2009-09-04 Thread Stan, W1LE
From: To: Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 12:36 PM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] More Z3801/Tbolt comparisons In a message dated 04/09/2009 11:18:07 GMT Daylight Time, phill...@btinternet.com writes: Racal 19## Counters are something else - - I got rid of mine some years back, not only t

Re: [time-nuts] More Z3801/Tbolt comparisons

2009-09-04 Thread GandalfG8
In a message dated 04/09/2009 16:32:09 GMT Daylight Time, phill...@btinternet.com writes: I must say that much of what you have stated is right, I have a 53131A counter and the basic time-base is a joke, but agreed, we mostly use a common external reference with our instruments. There are s

Re: [time-nuts] More Z3801/Tbolt comparisons

2009-09-04 Thread Roy Phillips
04, 2009 12:36 PM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] More Z3801/Tbolt comparisons In a message dated 04/09/2009 11:18:07 GMT Daylight Time, phill...@btinternet.com writes: Racal 19## Counters are something else - - I got rid of mine some years back, not only the ongoing problems with the key-pad, but

[time-nuts] More Z3801/Tbolt comparisons

2009-09-04 Thread Mark Sims
Yes, the sidereal day is definitely the proper interval to survey for. The technique that I am using analyzes the data over minute, hour, and 24 hour intervals. The Tbolt outputs data at one second intervals. There is not a good way to evenly divide those 236 seconds over those intervals,

Re: [time-nuts] More Z3801/Tbolt comparisons

2009-09-04 Thread Peter Vince
Hi Mark, If we are being this careful, I wonder if you should use a SIDEREAL day of averaging - 236 seconds short of a solar day ? TTFN, Peter Vince (G8ZZR, London, England) On Thu Sep 3 19:40 , Mark Sims sent: >... > The next version of Lady Heather will have a very pr

Re: [time-nuts] More Z3801/Tbolt comparisons

2009-09-04 Thread GandalfG8
In a message dated 04/09/2009 11:18:07 GMT Daylight Time, phill...@btinternet.com writes: Racal 19## Counters are something else - - I got rid of mine some years back, not only the ongoing problems with the key-pad, but I don't think they put much cost into the oven osc. Perhaps you shou

Re: [time-nuts] More Z3801/Tbolt comparisons

2009-09-04 Thread Roy Phillips
tember 03, 2009 8:05 PM Subject: [time-nuts] More Z3801/Tbolt comparisons Yesterday, I thought the Tbolt was wandering around too much. So, I did a factory reset and started a new 5K fix self survey. At about the same time, I started a new self survey on the Z3801 thinking that if they were bo

[time-nuts] More Z3801/Tbolt comparisons

2009-09-03 Thread Mark Sims
The standard self-surveys in these units leaves MUCH to be desired. You need to do surveys for 24 hours to help mitigate satellite constellation and atmospheric effects. Note that due to periods of poor satellite geometry, you can't just survey for 24*60*60 fixes. You need the survey to be

Re: [time-nuts] More Z3801/Tbolt comparisons

2009-09-03 Thread WB6BNQ
Hi John, With regard to the altitude, what I have found is that it is never close ! I have seen variations all over the scale. What I did here is determine, to the best of my ability, from TOPO maps what my altitude is and measure the height of the antenna off of the ground where it is mounted a

[time-nuts] More Z3801/Tbolt comparisons

2009-09-03 Thread John Green
Yesterday, I thought the Tbolt was wandering around too much. So, I did a factory reset and started a new 5K fix self survey. At about the same time, I started a new self survey on the Z3801 thinking that if they were both looking at the same satellites with the same antenna at the same time, they