Re: [time-nuts] Nortel GPSDO osc age alarm

2014-01-24 Thread GandalfG8
Hi Volker One possibility, as I found with one of these recently, is that your oscillator has aged such that the required EFC voltage for 10MHz output is now outside the range provided by the board. The EFC behaviour can be tracked if Lady Heather is enabled from switch on and the DAC

Re: [time-nuts] Nortel GPSDO osc age alarm

2014-01-24 Thread GandalfG8
Whilst on second thoughts it does seem a bit odd that this oscillator has passed 10MHz and still not locking this might be linked to the alarms being generated at around 5.6 volts as per my previous comment, even though the EFC voltage at the extreme does, theoretically at least, seem to be

Re: [time-nuts] Nortel GPSDO osc age alarm

2014-01-24 Thread Volker Esper
...thanks, Bob, it seems to be the oscillator, that is at it's limit, it cannot tune to 10 MHz at full EFC voltage, see new thread (started by Mark). Volker Am 24.01.2014 01:09, schrieb Bob Camp: Hi That’s a cell phone base station board. It’s got a bunch of outputs, some of which are

Re: [time-nuts] Nortel GPSDO osc age alarm

2014-01-24 Thread Volker Esper
Thanks so much, Nigel, for this very interesting mail. Yes, the voltages are exactly as my ones. And yes, I've removed the oscillator, already. I then removed the thermal isolation from the osc, as well as the label, in slight hope for a hidden tuning screw. Of course, there isn't any. I, too,

Re: [time-nuts] Nortel GPSDO osc age alarm

2014-01-24 Thread GandalfG8
In a message dated 24/01/2014 17:06:43 GMT Standard Time, ail...@t-online.de writes: Thanks so much, Nigel, for this very interesting mail. Yes, the voltages are exactly as my ones. And yes, I've removed the oscillator, already. I then removed the thermal isolation from the osc, as well

Re: [time-nuts] Nortel GPSDO osc age alarm

2014-01-24 Thread EB4APL
Volker, I have also a Trimble Nortel NTG550AA and fortunately it works very well from the beginning. I have a downloaded manual and some other info that I can send you if interested. And one word of caution: if you observe the cable that goes from the main board to the small interface board,

Re: [time-nuts] Nortel GPSDO osc age alarm

2014-01-24 Thread TMiller
time-nuts-boun...@febo.com on behalf of EB4APL eb4...@cembreros.jazztel.es Sent: Friday, January 24, 2014 2:27 PM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Nortel GPSDO osc age alarm Volker, I have also a Trimble Nortel NTG550AA and fortunately it works very

Re: [time-nuts] Nortel GPSDO osc age alarm

2014-01-24 Thread Volker Esper
Ignacio, thanks for your message. Answeres within the text: And one word of caution: if you observe the cable that goes from the main board to the small interface board, you will see that one of the connectors is reversed so be careful if you make a custom one for your cabinet, do it in the

Re: [time-nuts] Nortel GPSDO osc age alarm

2014-01-24 Thread Volker Esper
To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Nortel GPSDO osc age alarm Volker, I have also a Trimble Nortel NTG550AA and fortunately it works very well from the beginning. I have a downloaded manual and some other info that I can send you if interested

Re: [time-nuts] Nortel GPSDO osc age alarm

2014-01-24 Thread Jim Lux
On 1/24/14 11:57 AM, Volker Esper wrote: Nice! I didn't know that. But what a number, 300... Why such a digital-hostile factor? Why not 256 or 512? Volker Am 24.01.2014 20:51, schrieb tmil...@skylinenet.net: 9.8304 MHz divided by 300 is 32,768 Hz. Feed that to an electronic clock and you

Re: [time-nuts] Nortel GPSDO osc age alarm

2014-01-24 Thread Volker Esper
Oukaay - I should've known... Thanks, Jim! Am 24.01.2014 21:12, schrieb Jim Lux: On 1/24/14 11:57 AM, Volker Esper wrote: Nice! I didn't know that. But what a number, 300... Why such a digital-hostile factor? Why not 256 or 512? Volker Am 24.01.2014 20:51, schrieb tmil...@skylinenet.net:

Re: [time-nuts] Nortel GPSDO osc age alarm

2014-01-24 Thread GandalfG8
In a message dated 24/01/2014 21:48:27 GMT Standard Time, ail...@t-online.de writes: New ways of RF design - see photo ;-) - Definitely the last word in high rise developments:-) And glad to hear you got it sorted. Ok, I put three 1N4148 in series between

Re: [time-nuts] Nortel GPSDO osc age alarm

2014-01-24 Thread Graeme Zimmer
9.8304 MHz output, an odd frequency used by the cell tower equipment 9.8304 MHz is 8 x 1.2288 MHz which is the CDMA PN chip rate a rather fundamental frequency to the CDMA phone system Zim ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com

[time-nuts] Nortel GPSDO osc age alarm

2014-01-23 Thread Volker Esper
Hi! I bought a Trimble/Nortel GPSDO http://www.ebay.de/itm/300933951405?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2648 and Lady Heather's now tells me that everything is alright - except - DAC 6.04V - OSC BAD - osc age alarm The rectangle 10MHz output signal (J5) shows a signal at about

Re: [time-nuts] Nortel GPSDO osc age alarm

2014-01-23 Thread Bob Camp
Hi That’s a cell phone base station board. It’s got a bunch of outputs, some of which are related to the cell network it was built for rather than 10MHz. I’d bet your 9.8 MHz output is one of those. They are DDS based so there likely is some range of possible outputs. The age alarm is not

[time-nuts] Nortel GPSDO osc age alarm

2014-01-23 Thread Mark Sims
The OSC age alarm says the oscillator EFC control voltage is getting near to its programmed limit. The DAC alarm says that the EFC dac setting is it is at the limit. I suspect that your oscillator EFC input is bad. I've seen this on a couple of boards.