Re: [time-nuts] PC clock comparison software?

2006-12-20 Thread Hal Murray
For test purposes I've occassionally set the time server polling routine to once a day and seen 20 minute errors on delinquent PCs. Other PCs might stay within a minute. 1 min per day is 694 ppm 20 min per day is 13880 ppm ntpd calls the crystal inaccuracy drift. ntpd can't handle a clock

Re: [time-nuts] PC clock comparison software?

2006-12-20 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
Charles S. Osborne said the following on 12/19/2006 09:02 PM: I have a query. Does anyone have a favorite network time sync test software? Here's my situation. Being at a radio and optical observatory, most everything we do has varying degrees of time stamp criticality on the stored data.

Re: [time-nuts] PC clock comparison software?

2006-12-20 Thread Peter Vince
I could be talking a lot of hot air, so please forgive me, but I've had a thought: if PCs still use a Real Time Clock chip, could a hardware modification be done to give them an accurate clock frequency, rather than relying on whatever cheap crystal is installed on the mother board? Maybe one

Re: [time-nuts] PC clock comparison software?

2006-12-20 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
Peter Vince said the following on 12/20/2006 10:11 AM: I could be talking a lot of hot air, so please forgive me, but I've had a thought: if PCs still use a Real Time Clock chip, could a hardware modification be done to give them an accurate clock frequency, rather than relying on

Re: [time-nuts] PC clock comparison software?

2006-12-20 Thread Peter Vince
My information could be out of date, but in the past, the realtime clock only set Windows on bootup. During run windows kept time off the bus crystal (hence the sensitivity to interupts) No matter how cheap, only a defective real time clock will err anything close to 1 minute/day, normal

Re: [time-nuts] PC clock comparison software?

2006-12-20 Thread Jack Hudler
The Timer/Clock interrupt is IRQ 0 no other interrupt has a higher priority, therefore this interrupt is rarely missed. If it were missed then interrupts would have to be turned off longer the 110ms (2 times the clock rate) which is an enormous amount of time and due no doubt to an improperly

Re: [time-nuts] PC clock comparison software?

2006-12-20 Thread Charles S. Osborne
Lots of good info as always from this list. I probably should mention what some of these PCs are doing. Someone asked about the telescope control PCs. The 26m dishes have their own dedicated GPS receivers for their local time standards. Those do the celestial navigation and tracking via their

Re: [time-nuts] PC clock comparison software?

2006-12-20 Thread Jack Hudler
] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Charles S. Osborne Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2006 2:30 PM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] PC clock comparison software? Lots of good info as always from this list. I probably should mention what some

[time-nuts] PC clock comparison software?

2006-12-19 Thread Charles S. Osborne
I have a query. Does anyone have a favorite network time sync test software? Here's my situation. Being at a radio and optical observatory, most everything we do has varying degrees of time stamp criticality on the stored data. While I could get obsessive compulsive and try to get everything

Re: [time-nuts] PC clock comparison software?

2006-12-19 Thread Jason Rabel
For the 2K/XP machines, ditch the built-in windows time sync and get NTP for windows, also probably want to use their front-end app... It's free... I think that will solve a majority of your problems. It allows for detailed logging (at least the *nix version does).

Re: [time-nuts] PC clock comparison software?

2006-12-19 Thread Jack Hudler
never know and I doubt they care. Jack Hudler -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Charles S. Osborne Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2006 8:02 PM To: Time-Nuts Subject: [time-nuts] PC clock comparison software? I have a query. Does anyone have