Re: [time-nuts] PRS10 time to lock

2013-08-28 Thread Bob Camp
Hi They are after good ADEV out to the point that the loop bandwidth lets the gas cell take over. In some cases that can be a bit further out than others. Bob On Aug 27, 2013, at 10:09 PM, Ed Palmer ed_pal...@sasktel.net wrote: Yes, in many of the more recent Rb standards you're lucky if the

Re: [time-nuts] PRS10 time to lock

2013-08-27 Thread Bob Camp
Hi The OCXO in most Rb's isn't all that great. They are after good ADEV, but tempco and aging aren't terribly important. Bob On Aug 26, 2013, at 1:34 PM, Nathaniel Bezanson mys...@telcodata.us wrote: At room temperature, mine takes about 3-4 minutes heating until the lamp will start.

Re: [time-nuts] PRS10 time to lock

2013-08-27 Thread Ed Palmer
Yes, in many of the more recent Rb standards you're lucky if the crystal is ovenized at all. But are you sure that they're after good ADEV? I get the impression that the only thing they're interested in is low drift for the unit (e.g. for holdover purposes) since they're intended to be

Re: [time-nuts] PRS10 time to lock

2013-08-26 Thread Nathaniel Bezanson
At room temperature, mine takes about 3-4 minutes heating until the lamp will start. You'll see RbMon showing SD2 and AD4 at max values, then they'll settle back into something sensible once it lights up. After that, you're watching the DS signal values and hoping the (large, small) turns into

Re: [time-nuts] PRS10 time to lock

2013-08-23 Thread Stephen Tompsett (G8LYB)
Use the RbMon utility to monitor the unit's operation as it starts up to confirm that the lamp is started and the photocell is detecting a signal. Not long ago there were a number of units available for sale on Ebay that appeared to have a lamp problem. On 23/08/2013 02:10, Paul wrote: As I

Re: [time-nuts] PRS10 time to lock

2013-08-23 Thread Bob Camp
Hi Pretty much all of the small Rb's that I have seen (LPRO, FE 56xx's, PRS-10's) lock up in under 10 minutes if they are running properly at room temperature. Most system level specs seem to want them to be doing something in under 10 minutes. They are fairly far off at lock, but converge to

[time-nuts] PRS10 time to lock

2013-08-23 Thread cdelect
Paul, The datasheet says it should lock in under 6 minutes. You may have the lamp assy problems that have been posted before. Corby ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to

Re: [time-nuts] PRS10 time to lock

2013-08-23 Thread Brooke Clarke
Hi Paul: Use the Rb monitor program to check to see if the unit is in the mode to lock. There's another mode where the Rb is free running and the 1PPS is time stamped. If in this mode there's no lock. Have Fun, Brooke Clarke http://www.PRC68.com

Re: [time-nuts] PRS10 time to lock

2013-08-23 Thread Paul
Use the RbMon utility to monitor the unit's operation as it starts up to confirm that the lamp is started and the photocell is detecting a signal. I'm not at all clear how to interpret the output but I think having the FET voltage stuck on 255 means the lamp isn't igniting. It also reports

[time-nuts] PRS10 time to lock

2013-08-22 Thread Paul
As I patiently wait for my PRS10 to lock I'm curious if there's a limit beyond which I should assume the unit is faulty. It does produce abount 10MHz (+- .2 Hz) and the oven current dropped at what I assume is operating temperature. ___ time-nuts

Re: [time-nuts] PRS10 time to lock

2013-08-22 Thread paul swed
I can't directly speak to a PRS 10 but from the hp 5065 to FE's and FRS 20-40 minutes would be typical. The newer smaller ones seem to be within 20 minutes. They are below .2 Hz when locked. Regards Paul WB8TSL/1 On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 9:10 PM, Paul tic-...@bodosom.net wrote: As I patiently

Re: [time-nuts] PRS10 time to lock

2013-08-22 Thread Said Jackson
Paul, i think 8 min is stated somewhere... Sent From iPhone On Aug 22, 2013, at 18:10, Paul tic-...@bodosom.net wrote: As I patiently wait for my PRS10 to lock I'm curious if there's a limit beyond which I should assume the unit is faulty. It does produce abount 10MHz (+- .2 Hz) and the