Hi

They are after good ADEV out to the point that the loop bandwidth lets the gas 
cell take over. In some cases that can be a bit further out than others.

Bob

On Aug 27, 2013, at 10:09 PM, Ed Palmer <ed_pal...@sasktel.net> wrote:

> Yes, in many of the more recent Rb standards you're lucky if the crystal is 
> ovenized at all.  But are you sure that they're after good ADEV?  I get the 
> impression that the only thing they're interested in is low drift for the 
> unit (e.g. for holdover purposes) since they're intended to be components in 
> a system rather than lab standards.  Anything else is more luck than intent.  
> The PRS10 seems to be an exception in that it has an SC xtal.  Other than the 
> 5065A, are there any Rb standards that use an SC xtal?
> 
> Ed
> 
> On 8/27/2013 6:24 PM, Bob Camp wrote:
>> Hi
>> 
>> The "OCXO" in most Rb's isn't all that great. They are after good ADEV, but 
>> tempco and aging aren't terribly important.
>> 
>> Bob
>> 
>> On Aug 26, 2013, at 1:34 PM, Nathaniel Bezanson <mys...@telcodata.us> wrote:
>> 
>>> At room temperature, mine takes about 3-4 minutes heating until the lamp 
>>> will start. You'll see RbMon showing SD2 and AD4 at max values, then 
>>> they'll settle back into something sensible once it lights up. After that, 
>>> you're watching the DS signal values and hoping the (large, small) turns 
>>> into (small, large).
>>> Mine had a blown capacitor in the lamp circuit, thus it wouldn't ignite; 
>>> SD2 and AD4 never budged. I opened it up to find a cracked tantalum cap: 
>>> http://imgur.com/bASgB After replacing the cap, I now get lamp ignition but 
>>> it doesn't achieve lock. (Photocell signal AD9 very low.) Once I swear I 
>>> saw RbMon claim it had locked, about 6 minutes after power-up, but a moment 
>>> later it was back to unlocked state and it's never repeated that feat. No 
>>> idea what happened there.
>>> I'm wondering whether one can simply use it as a nice (albeit power-hungry) 
>>> OCXO. If given 1pps from GPS, will the quartz discipline itself even 
>>> without the Rb loop running?
>>> -Nate B-
>>> Stephen Tompsett (G8LYB)  wrote:
>>>>               Use the RbMon utility to monitor the unit's operation as it 
>>>> starts up to
>>>> confirm that the lamp is started and the photocell is detecting a signal.
>>>> Not long ago there were a number of units available for sale on Ebay
>>>> that appeared to have a lamp problem.
>>>> 
>>>> On 23/08/2013 02:10, Paul wrote:
>>>>> As I patiently wait for my PRS10 to lock I'm curious if there's a
>>>>> limit beyond which I should assume the unit is faulty.
>>>>> 
>>>>> It does produce abount 10MHz (+- .2 Hz) and the oven current dropped
>>>>> at what I assume is operating temperature.
>>>>> 
>>>> --
>>>> Stephen Tompsett (G8LYB)
>>>> 
>>>> 
> 
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