Re: [time-nuts] smallest rubidium

2011-05-24 Thread Richard W. Solomon
:51 PM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com Cc: time-nuts@febo.com time-nuts@febo.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] smallest rubidium How about a GPSDO in 1 x 1 x 0.5 inch footprint? Check out the new MtronPTI M9107 and M9107 GPSDOs. Check out the press release

Re: [time-nuts] smallest rubidium

2011-05-24 Thread David VanHorn
measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] smallest rubidium I tried to download the User Manual several times and it keeps bombing at about 90%. Must be busted, since I can download other manuals on the same site. I'll have to inquire about pricing. 73, Dick, W1KSZ -Original Message- From: Said

Re: [time-nuts] smallest rubidium

2011-05-24 Thread Tijd Dingen
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] smallest rubidium Works for me, do you have a Mordrac in the way? From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Richard W. Solomon [w1...@earthlink.net] Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 9:28 AM

Re: [time-nuts] smallest rubidium

2011-05-24 Thread Richard W. Solomon
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] smallest rubidium Maybe he should just dial the firewall back or something. ;- From: David VanHorn d.vanh...@elec-solutions.com To: Richard W. Solomon w1...@earthlink.net; Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts

Re: [time-nuts] smallest rubidium

2011-05-24 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
On 05/24/11 06:51 AM, Said Jackson wrote: How about a GPSDO in 1 x 1 x 0.5 inch footprint? Check out the new MtronPTI M9107 and M9107 GPSDOs. Check out the press release about these on our Jackson Labs Tech website for more info.. Better than 4E-013 over 100K seconds typically, beats most

Re: [time-nuts] smallest rubidium

2011-05-24 Thread Robert Darlington
What's an Ultra 27? -Bob On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 11:47 AM, Dr. David Kirkby david.kir...@onetel.netwrote: On 05/24/11 06:51 AM, Said Jackson wrote: How about a GPSDO in 1 x 1 x 0.5 inch footprint? Check out the new MtronPTI M9107 and M9107 GPSDOs. Check out the press release about these

Re: [time-nuts] smallest rubidium

2011-05-24 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
On 05/25/11 03:29 AM, Robert Darlington wrote: What's an Ultra 27? -Bob My posted ended in Sent from my Sun Ultra 27, in response to someone's post which had at the bottom Sent from my iPad. I'm sure if you are interested, it would not take take long to find out what a Sun Ultra 27 is.

Re: [time-nuts] smallest rubidium

2011-05-24 Thread Robert Darlington
I actually asked in jest, thinking there was no such beast and that it was a typo. I'm an old Sun guy, apparently too old to know about the new stuff. Looks like an expensive PC. On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 9:33 PM, Dr. David Kirkby david.kir...@onetel.netwrote: On 05/25/11 03:29 AM, Robert

Re: [time-nuts] smallest rubidium

2011-05-24 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
On 05/25/11 04:49 AM, Robert Darlington wrote: I actually asked in jest, thinking there was no such beast and that it was a typo. No, just a joke on my part. I don't know if Apple think it impresses people to know messages were sent from iPads or iPhones, but it seems to be how many are set

Re: [time-nuts] smallest rubidium

2011-05-23 Thread Rob Kimberley
and frequency measurement Subject: [time-nuts] smallest rubidium What's the smallest rubidium source available? Something that can produce a 10 MHz output - not bothered about locking to GPS, just need it to be small. Dave -- A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top

Re: [time-nuts] smallest rubidium

2011-05-23 Thread John Miles
and frequency measurement' Subject: Re: [time-nuts] smallest rubidium Try http://www.symmetricom.com/media/files/downloads/product-datasheets/DS_SA.22 c.pdf Rob Kimberley -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Dr. David Kirkby Sent: 23

Re: [time-nuts] smallest rubidium

2011-05-23 Thread Rob Kimberley
time and frequency measurement Subject: [time-nuts] smallest rubidium What's the smallest rubidium source available? Something that can produce a 10 MHz output - not bothered about locking to GPS, just need it to be small. Dave -- A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read

Re: [time-nuts] smallest rubidium

2011-05-23 Thread WB6BNQ
David, Besides the Symmetricom SA22c unit which can be found here : http://www.symmetricom.com/products/frequency-references/rubidium-frequency-standard/SA22c/ There is also the Frequency Electronics Inc. unit FE-5650 which is very much the same size and can be found here :

Re: [time-nuts] smallest rubidium

2011-05-23 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
On 05/23/11 09:31 AM, Rob Kimberley wrote: Try http://www.symmetricom.com/media/files/downloads/product-datasheets/DS_SA.22 c.pdf Rob Kimberley Thank you. I don't have know what board area I have available, but I think think its going to be considerably less than that size. I think the only

Re: [time-nuts] smallest rubidium

2011-05-23 Thread paul swed
I believe thats because RB and CS have cavities that essentially establish the operating size, because they work at a given frequency. You have to go to a different technology method to reduce its size, like the new Symmetricom CS oscillator. Still overall pretty darned amazing in size and power

Re: [time-nuts] smallest rubidium

2011-05-23 Thread Rob Kimberley
Of Dr. David Kirkby Sent: 23 May 2011 2:07 PM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] smallest rubidium On 05/23/11 09:31 AM, Rob Kimberley wrote: Try http://www.symmetricom.com/media/files/downloads/product-datasheets/DS _SA.22 c.pdf Rob Kimberley

Re: [time-nuts] smallest rubidium

2011-05-23 Thread Jim Lux
On 5/23/11 6:07 AM, Dr. David Kirkby wrote: On 05/23/11 09:31 AM, Rob Kimberley wrote: Try http://www.symmetricom.com/media/files/downloads/product-datasheets/DS_SA.22 c.pdf Rob Kimberley Thank you. I don't have know what board area I have available, but I think think its going to be

Re: [time-nuts] smallest rubidium

2011-05-23 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
On 05/23/11 02:20 PM, paul swed wrote: I believe thats because RB and CS have cavities that essentially establish the operating size, because they work at a given frequency. That makes sense You have to go to a different technology method to reduce its size, like the new Symmetricom CS

Re: [time-nuts] smallest rubidium

2011-05-23 Thread Had
Rob, I agree with you 100%, Top forever. Had K7MLR At 06:29 AM 5/23/2011, you wrote: I couldn't resist commenting about how top posting annoys you. Interestingly, I have always top posted ever since my first email way, way back. Everyone else I dealt with in business did it that way. It

Re: [time-nuts] smallest rubidium

2011-05-23 Thread Mike Feher
732-886-5960 office 908-902-3831 cell -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Rob Kimberley Sent: Monday, May 23, 2011 9:30 AM To: 'Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement' Subject: Re: [time-nuts] smallest rubidium

Re: [time-nuts] smallest rubidium

2011-05-23 Thread Stan, W1LE
cell -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Rob Kimberley Sent: Monday, May 23, 2011 9:30 AM To: 'Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement' Subject: Re: [time-nuts] smallest rubidium I couldn't resist commenting about

Re: [time-nuts] smallest rubidium

2011-05-23 Thread Magnus Danielson
On 05/23/2011 03:07 PM, Dr. David Kirkby wrote: On 05/23/11 09:31 AM, Rob Kimberley wrote: Try http://www.symmetricom.com/media/files/downloads/product-datasheets/DS_SA.22 c.pdf Rob Kimberley Thank you. I don't have know what board area I have available, but I think think its going to be

Re: [time-nuts] smallest rubidium

2011-05-23 Thread Bob Camp
-Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Dr. David Kirkby Sent: Monday, May 23, 2011 9:07 AM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] smallest rubidium On 05/23/11 09:31 AM, Rob Kimberley wrote: Try

Re: [time-nuts] smallest rubidium

2011-05-23 Thread WB6BNQ
David, You should have said so in the first place. Unless you are sure that the reference oscillator is the base for all the generated frequencies, it would not make sense to install a Rb source in the radio. You are correct concerning most of the so-called higher stability options in that

Re: [time-nuts] smallest rubidium

2011-05-23 Thread WB6BNQ
To all, Evidently my link did not work. Curse those bastard WEB site designers with all modern embedded garbage. So you will have to go to the main page of Analog Devices at http://www.analog.com and select Tools, Software ? Simulation models from the bottom middle of the page. On the next

Re: [time-nuts] smallest rubidium

2011-05-23 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
On 05/23/11 06:17 PM, Magnus Danielson wrote: On 05/23/2011 03:07 PM, Dr. David Kirkby wrote: On 05/23/11 09:31 AM, Rob Kimberley wrote: Try http://www.symmetricom.com/media/files/downloads/product-datasheets/DS_SA.22 c.pdf Rob Kimberley Thank you. I don't have know what board area I have

Re: [time-nuts] smallest rubidium

2011-05-23 Thread Jim Lux
-Original Message- From: WB6BNQ wb6...@cox.net Sent: May 23, 2011 2:17 PM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] smallest rubidium David, You should have said so in the first place. Unless you are sure that the reference

Re: [time-nuts] smallest rubidium

2011-05-23 Thread Tijd Dingen
PM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] smallest rubidium To all, Evidently my link did not work.  Curse those bastard WEB site designers with all modern embedded garbage.  So you will have to go to the main page of Analog Devices at http://www.analog.com and select Tools, Software ? Simulation models from

Re: [time-nuts] smallest rubidium

2011-05-23 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
On 05/23/11 10:44 PM, Jim Lux wrote: -Original Message- From: WB6BNQwb6...@cox.net Sent: May 23, 2011 2:17 PM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurementtime-nuts@febo.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] smallest rubidium David, You should have said so in the first place

Re: [time-nuts] smallest rubidium

2011-05-23 Thread Said Jackson
How about a GPSDO in 1 x 1 x 0.5 inch footprint? Check out the new MtronPTI M9107 and M9107 GPSDOs. Check out the press release about these on our Jackson Labs Tech website for more info.. Better than 4E-013 over 100K seconds typically, beats most RBs. Said Sent from my iPad On May 23,