Re: [time-nuts] Trimble TB replacement options???

2013-10-12 Thread Bob Camp
Hi All of these gizmos come on the market cheap when they are being scrapped out. Once that process is over for a generation of parts, the pieces climb. There are only a few working strategies: 1) Buy several when they first come out. 2) Pay the going rate many years later. 3) Switch to

Re: [time-nuts] Trimble TB replacement options???

2013-10-12 Thread Mark C. Stephens
-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Bob Camp Sent: Saturday, 12 October 2013 10:52 PM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Trimble TB replacement options??? Hi All of these gizmos come on the market cheap when

Re: [time-nuts] Trimble TB replacement options???

2013-10-12 Thread Jim Sanford
time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Trimble TB replacement options??? Hi All of these gizmos come on the market cheap when they are being scrapped out. Once that process is over for a generation of parts, the pieces climb. There are only a few working strategies: 1) Buy

Re: [time-nuts] Trimble TB replacement options???

2013-10-12 Thread Chris Albertson
...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@**febo.comtime-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Bob Camp Sent: Saturday, 12 October 2013 10:52 PM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Trimble TB replacement options??? Hi All of these gizmos come on the market

Re: [time-nuts] Trimble TB replacement options???

2013-10-12 Thread Jim Sanford
] Trimble TB replacement options??? Hi All of these gizmos come on the market cheap when they are being scrapped out. Once that process is over for a generation of parts, the pieces climb. There are only a few working strategies: 1) Buy several when

Re: [time-nuts] Trimble TB replacement options???

2013-10-12 Thread Bob Stewart
: Re: [time-nuts] Trimble TB replacement options??? What is needed now is a easy to assemble DIY GPSDO.  In the past people lost interest in such becuase you could buy a TB for $90.  I'd think today now that we have $10 microcontroller boards that have USB connections and are self-programming we

Re: [time-nuts] Trimble TB replacement options???

2013-10-12 Thread Hal Murray
wb4...@wb4gcs.org said: Very tempting. I just ordered 100 and 1000MHz VCXOs from Fox Electronics, with the intent of locking them to my GPSDO. Do you have part numbers? Just curious. wb4...@wb4gcs.org said: A DIY GPSDO would be WONDERFUL! Already have a couple of Jupiter GPS boards

Re: [time-nuts] Trimble TB replacement options???

2013-10-12 Thread Bob Camp
] On Behalf Of Bob Camp Sent: Saturday, 12 October 2013 10:52 PM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Trimble TB replacement options??? Hi All of these gizmos come on the market cheap when they are being scrapped out. Once that process is over

Re: [time-nuts] Trimble TB replacement options???

2013-10-12 Thread Bob Stewart
time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2013 12:22 PM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Trimble TB replacement options??? Hi The Nortel / Trimbles are still cheaper (and probably better) than anything you are likely to build from scratch. Bob ___ time

Re: [time-nuts] Trimble TB replacement options???

2013-10-12 Thread Bob Camp
-nuts] Trimble TB replacement options??? Hi The Nortel / Trimbles are still cheaper (and probably better) than anything you are likely to build from scratch. Bob ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go

Re: [time-nuts] Trimble TB replacement options???

2013-10-12 Thread Don Lewis
I just completed my second scratch GPSDO and would like to share a few of its details and ask a question or two at the end) I think the point of the below is that it did not cost very much, either time or money. It was very easily designed and built. I think the GPS-locked 10MHz output

Re: [time-nuts] Trimble TB replacement options???

2013-10-12 Thread Bob Camp
Hi Lady Heather is a very Trimble specific program. It's not going to by a lot of help with a non-trimble based design. LH (as I've mentioned before) really does not calculate a proper ADEV. Not because it's broke, but because it can't without a very stable third oscillator to compare to.

Re: [time-nuts] Trimble TB replacement options???

2013-10-12 Thread Said Jackson
Hi Don, Seems the easiest would be to capture your 5370B output to a file and use Ulrich's plotter to calculate ADEV. With ~20ps noise floor on the 5370B you can assume a 1s indication of no better than 2E-011. The 10811A will be better than that assuming you did your efc low pass filter

Re: [time-nuts] Trimble TB replacement options???

2013-10-11 Thread Paul
On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 7:24 PM, Frank Hughes hp_cisco...@yahoo.com wrote: Does it seem like the Trimble Thunderbolt units are becoming scarce, and commanding prices accordingly? The inexpensive used Thunderbolts predate my interest in GPSDOs so I can't speak to relative prices but if your