Re: [time-nuts] What size graphs do people like? (How big is yourscreen?)

2012-08-13 Thread Jim Lux
On 8/8/12 5:19 AM, Sylvain Munaut wrote: Hi, SVG is uncompressed text. PNG compresses well, at least for simple cases. Decently configured web servers will compress SVG on the fly during transport, wich yields a 9k transfer size. (and your server is definitely not properly configured for

Re: [time-nuts] What size graphs do people like? (How big is yourscreen?)

2012-08-08 Thread Hal Murray
albertson.ch...@gmail.com said: So you are saying that SVG can't work because one example of it is broken. Also, there are other vector formats, like Postscript and PDF. No. I think my ISP's web server has a simple misconfiguration. It does work for ps and pdf, at least with my copy of

Re: [time-nuts] What size graphs do people like? (How big is yourscreen?)

2012-08-08 Thread Rex
Hal, I never tried to use SVG before, but after your messages tonight I played around with it a bit. I would never have expected it, but I think you are right about the issue being a server configuration. I copied your SVG file and got the same results. On my local hard drive it opens as a

Re: [time-nuts] What size graphs do people like? (How big is yourscreen?)

2012-08-08 Thread Pablo Garaizar Sagarminaga
Hello, on Wed, 08 Aug 2012 02:00:40 -0700 Rex r...@sonic.net wrote: So it seems most browsers are now ready for SVG, but many servers are not. Maybe someone else can give us more details on what change might be required. In the mean time it looks like I won't be using any SVG on my pages

Re: [time-nuts] What size graphs do people like? (How big is yourscreen?)

2012-08-08 Thread mike cook
Le 08/08/2012 11:00, Rex a écrit : Hal, I If you go to: http://validator.w3.org and enter your link into the address field (http://www.megapathdsl.net/~hmurray/time-nuts/coax/Front-5ns-800x600.svg) then click Check, you will get a message that sort of explains the situation, except I still

Re: [time-nuts] What size graphs do people like? (How big is yourscreen?)

2012-08-08 Thread Sylvain Munaut
Hi, SVG is uncompressed text. PNG compresses well, at least for simple cases. Decently configured web servers will compress SVG on the fly during transport, wich yields a 9k transfer size. (and your server is definitely not properly configured for SVG, it doesn't compress and serves it as

Re: [time-nuts] What size graphs do people like? (How big is yourscreen?)

2012-08-08 Thread Chris Albertson
On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 11:57 PM, Hal Murray hmur...@megapathdsl.net wrote: ps and pdf, at least the way I see them, are not in the same boat as SVG. SVG is an image format that can easily be included in a html page. ps and pdf are stand alone. They assume they control the whole setup and

Re: [time-nuts] What size graphs do people like? (How big is yourscreen?)

2012-08-08 Thread Mike S
On 8/8/2012 1:41 PM, Chris Albertson wrote: On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 11:57 PM, Hal Murray hmur...@megapathdsl.net wrote: ps and pdf, at least the way I see them, are not in the same boat as SVG. SVG is an image format that can easily be included in a html page. ps and pdf are stand alone.

Re: [time-nuts] What size graphs do people like? (How big is yourscreen?)

2012-08-08 Thread Chris Albertson
http://www.acousticscale.org/**wiki/index.php/File:SHAR_PGW_** 2009_Staves.epshttp://www.acousticscale.org/wiki/index.php/File:SHAR_PGW_2009_Staves.eps ?? That's a page, which despite its title, contains a .png image, so the image is viewable in a browser. The eps is here:

Re: [time-nuts] What size graphs do people like? (How big is yourscreen?)

2012-08-07 Thread Hal Murray
p...@phk.freebsd.dk said: That is _exactly_ why you should use a vectorformat like SVG: Raster format is a waste of bytes for line graphics. Except that it doesn't work that way, at least for my simple test case. SVG is uncompressed text. PNG compresses well, at least for simple cases.

Re: [time-nuts] What size graphs do people like? (How big is yourscreen?)

2012-08-07 Thread gary
You can save the file then view it in inkscape. http://inkscape.org/ That worked for me. Firefox is supposed to read SVG, but all I got was text. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to

Re: [time-nuts] What size graphs do people like? (How big is yourscreen?)

2012-08-07 Thread Chris Albertson
On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 9:32 PM, Hal Murray hmur...@megapathdsl.net wrote: p...@phk.freebsd.dk said: That is _exactly_ why you should use a vectorformat like SVG: Raster format is a waste of bytes for line graphics. Except that it doesn't work that way, at least for my simple test case.

Re: [time-nuts] What size graphs do people like? (How big is yourscreen?)

2012-08-06 Thread David J Taylor
Hal Murray wrote: david-tay...@blueyonder.co.uk said: I load screen shots into Corel Photo Paint 8 and resample the image to a good size for a web page somewhere between 600 and 800 pixels horizontally. === No, I didn't say that. Please be more careful

Re: [time-nuts] What size graphs do people like? (How big is yourscreen?)

2012-08-06 Thread David J Taylor
The absolute best thing would be to make the graphs in some vector format. Maybe PDF files. Raster plots don't scale. Chris Albertson Redondo Beach, California ___ Excellent idea, Chris. David -- SatSignal Software - Quality software written to

Re: [time-nuts] What size graphs do people like? (How big is yourscreen?)

2012-08-06 Thread Magnus Danielson
On 08/06/2012 09:10 AM, David J Taylor wrote: The absolute best thing would be to make the graphs in some vector format. Maybe PDF files. Raster plots don't scale. PDF is not ideal for web-publishing, you might provide a PDF too, but SVG is better if you want vectorized. Cheers, Magnus

Re: [time-nuts] What size graphs do people like? (How big is yourscreen?)

2012-08-06 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message 501f80cc.2090...@rubidium.dyndns.org, Magnus Danielson writes: On 08/06/2012 09:10 AM, David J Taylor wrote: The absolute best thing would be to make the graphs in some vector format. Maybe PDF files. Raster plots don't scale. PDF is not ideal for web-publishing, you might provide a

Re: [time-nuts] What size graphs do people like? (How big is yourscreen?)

2012-08-06 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message 68331.1344242...@critter.freebsd.dk, Poul-Henning Kamp writes: In message 501f80cc.2090...@rubidium.dyndns.org, Magnus Danielson writes: On 08/06/2012 09:10 AM, David J Taylor wrote: The absolute best thing would be to make the graphs in some vector format. Maybe PDF files. Raster

Re: [time-nuts] What size graphs do people like? (How big is yourscreen?)

2012-08-06 Thread DaveH
The screen sizes were the maximum resolutions of the older display technology. 640*480 was the original VGA and the 800*600 was the upgraded XVGA. Website images are generally 640*480 range with the option to click for full size. Depending on the software being used, there may be multiple

Re: [time-nuts] What size graphs do people like? (How big is yourscreen?)

2012-08-06 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message 19D39F6978C14DE88D869CF287CAA920@photo, DaveH writes: Also, many people __still__ do not enjoy full bandwidth for their internet connections (I am one of these poor sods) and a full-size image is not polite as it takes a large chunk of bandwidth to download before the person can see if

Re: [time-nuts] What size graphs do people like? (How big is yourscreen?)

2012-08-06 Thread Magnus Danielson
On 08/06/2012 11:08 PM, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: In message19D39F6978C14DE88D869CF287CAA920@photo, DaveH writes: Also, many people __still__ do not enjoy full bandwidth for their internet connections (I am one of these poor sods) and a full-size image is not polite as it takes a large chunk of