Re: [time-nuts] Interface boards for timing peripherals (was: 5 MHz1PPS...)

2008-04-16 Thread John Miles
I took a closer look at this board. It has a lot to offer over the older Digilent 2 boards that I've used a fair bit. If there was interest, we could do some aux interface boards for the Nexsys-2 -- either simple I or O boards for the 2x6 connectors or a bigger multi-function I/O board for

Re: [time-nuts] Digital TV signals

2008-04-16 Thread Magnus Danielson
From: david brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [time-nuts] Digital TV signals Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 09:25:21 -0700 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From a complete amateur, is there any useful timing info to be gained from the newer format of digital tv transmission(Australia) to replace that

Re: [time-nuts] Digital TV signals

2008-04-16 Thread Ulrich Bangert
David, maybe that your TV derived frequency standard IS already obsolete ALTHOUGH you may still receive analogue transmissions! In Germany the ZDF was known to have a rubidium standard in their transmitting central in Mainz that was phase locked to the atomic clock ensemble at the PTB (the

Re: [time-nuts] 5 MHZ PIC PPS Divider?

2008-04-16 Thread Stanley Reynolds
Thank you for your ideas, It will be good for me to go thou the process of improvement one step at a time, I have several steps to try that should keep me busy, I expect to make several prototypes and with some luck try several methods. I do need to bootstrap my self up as I have to develop

Re: [time-nuts] 5 MHZ PIC PPS Divider?

2008-04-16 Thread Hal Murray
The ECL part you've selected seems to simplify interfacing with its synchronous enables. I think you are missing the decimal point. A synchronous enable will have setup/hold times. They will (generally) be less than the cycle time (1 ns). You aren't going to get that level of timing

Re: [time-nuts] 5 MHZ PIC PPS Divider?

2008-04-16 Thread Stanley Reynolds
The two ways I hoped to get around the counter ripple was to measure every other set of PPS with the counter stopped in between. Or two counters running in opposite seconds, one running while the other is stopped. Due to my error not everyone received all the discussion, my email reply puts

Re: [time-nuts] Digital TV signals

2008-04-16 Thread SAIDJACK
Hi Ulrich, interesting story. A bit of history from my side: In about 1996 I lived in Stuttgart and we measured the Hs frequencies of the German TV stations at the time. I used a Philips SAA7111 or similar Video decoder's 27,0MHz output (which is line-locked to Hs) to measure the

Re: [time-nuts] 5 MHZ PIC PPS Divider?

2008-04-16 Thread SAIDJACK
Hi Bruce, did you or anyone every build this LTC application? I wonder about the tempco matching of the reference 1N457 diodes compensating the 2N5771 etc... bye, Said In a message dated 4/15/2008 21:32:14 Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: For one version of a

Re: [time-nuts] 5 MHZ PIC PPS Divider?

2008-04-16 Thread Bruce Griffiths
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Bruce, did you or anyone every build this LTC application? I wonder about the tempco matching of the reference 1N457 diodes compensating the 2N5771 etc... bye, Said Said Not this particular implementation but have built similar circuits decades

Re: [time-nuts] 5 MHZ PIC PPS Divider?

2008-04-16 Thread Bruce Griffiths
Bruce Griffiths Correction added: Said Not this particular implementation but have built similar circuits decades ago. Tempco isnt an issue. There's plenty of time to interleave calibration cycles of say 100ns, 200ns, 300ns, 400ns duration between PPS measurements. It should even be

Re: [time-nuts] 5 MHZ PIC PPS Divider?

2008-04-16 Thread Brooke Clarke
Hi Bruce: The A/D used is only 12 bits @ 300 kHz and Linear now has very similar 12 bit A/D at 600 kHz and 24 bit much slower. Since a s/h is used to capture the ramp value the key spec seems to be that the hold time exceeds the conversion time. Are there s/h circuits that hold for more

Re: [time-nuts] 5 MHZ PIC PPS Divider?

2008-04-16 Thread Bruce Griffiths
Brooke Clarke wrote: Hi Bruce: The A/D used is only 12 bits @ 300 kHz and Linear now has very similar 12 bit A/D at 600 kHz and 24 bit much slower. Since a s/h is used to capture the ramp value the key spec seems to be that the hold time exceeds the conversion time. Are there s/h

Re: [time-nuts] 5 MHZ PIC PPS Divider?

2008-04-16 Thread SAIDJACK
Hi Bruce, got it, I also like the pulse stretcher dual-slope interpolator technique you mention. bye, Said In a message dated 4/16/2008 17:36:44 Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Another widely used technique is the Wilkinson converter wher the capacitor is charges