Re: [time-nuts] an interesting problem

2011-02-06 Thread cook michael
I had a quick look at the IEEE-1355 HIC bus on which spacewire is based and it seems that although the clock is not on the wire, it can be reconstructed as an XOR of the strobe and data. So a passthrough connector sampling those lines (differential) with RS-644 receivers and a quad NAND may

Re: [time-nuts] an interesting problem

2011-02-06 Thread Magnus Danielson
On 05/02/11 19:43, x...@darksmile.net wrote: I wonder if there is any value to performing a FFT on the data. Not really. The added noise is clearly visible in the time domain and does not form a very meaningful view in the frequency domain. With a suitable pre-processing a histogram tells

Re: [time-nuts] an interesting problem

2011-02-06 Thread Magnus Danielson
On 06/02/11 07:14, Hal Murray wrote: I've got a system at work with an internal clock oscillator that I want to get some statistics on, but there's no direct visibility for the oscillator, nor do I have a convenient test point that I can probe. ... Fun problem. Thanks for tossing it out.

[time-nuts] Paging a couple of people

2011-02-06 Thread David C. Partridge
Please could Hadley Allhands, and Robert Darlington please check their mail (including spam folders) for mail from paypal.co.uk and from me. Regards, David Partridge ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to

Re: [time-nuts] Fwd: 10MHz to 80MHz frequency multiplier suggestions

2011-02-06 Thread Tijd Dingen
Possibly you mean the CVS575 datasheet does not have any aging specs The datasheet for the CVHD-950 specifies aging as 3ppm 1st/yr, 1ppm thereafter which is good enough for me. So it's now on the shopping list. No, what I meant was that the data sheets didn't have any total

Re: [time-nuts] Fwd: 10MHz to 80MHz frequency multiplier suggestions

2011-02-06 Thread Tijd Dingen
Additionally, the definition as used in this appnote from Vectron: http://www.vectron.com/products/literature_library/absolute_pull_range.pdf - Original Message From: Tijd Dingen tijddin...@yahoo.com To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com Sent:

Re: [time-nuts] Fwd: 10MHz to 80MHz frequency multiplier suggestions

2011-02-06 Thread Tijd Dingen
damn send button Additionally, the definition as used in this appnote from Vectron: http://www.vectron.com/products/literature_library/absolute_pull_range.pdf Definition APR is the minimum guaranteed amount the VCXO can be varied, about the center frequency (fo). It accounts for

Re: [time-nuts] an interesting problem

2011-02-06 Thread jimlux
On 2/5/11 10:14 PM, Hal Murray wrote: I've got a system at work with an internal clock oscillator that I want to get some statistics on, but there's no direct visibility for the oscillator, nor do I have a convenient test point that I can probe. ... Fun problem. Thanks for tossing it out.

Re: [time-nuts] HP 654A Manual

2011-02-06 Thread Gordon Batey
Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2011 19:14:07 -0600 From: Dave M dgmin...@mediacombb.net Subject: Re: [time-nuts] HP 654A Manual To: time-nuts@febo.com Message-ID: F5FA4565B87547A893E7D4EAC1AA1F83@D77M7BF1 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original From: Gordon

Re: [time-nuts] Frequency multiplication

2011-02-06 Thread jimlux
On 2/5/11 10:20 PM, Tijd Dingen wrote: You don't feed the ADC from the FPGA if you can avoid it. especially if your ADC clock is a different frequency from the processor clock that's being used for most of the other logic on the FPGA. I'd give a ballpark estimate of 20-30 dB isolation

Re: [time-nuts] an interesting problem

2011-02-06 Thread jimlux
On 2/6/11 12:37 AM, cook michael wrote: I had a quick look at the IEEE-1355 HIC bus on which spacewire is based and it seems that although the clock is not on the wire, it can be reconstructed as an XOR of the strobe and data. So a passthrough connector sampling those lines (differential) with

Re: [time-nuts] HP 654A Manual

2011-02-06 Thread J. Forster
Artek is a very reliable and helpful outfit. -John == Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2011 19:14:07 -0600 From: Dave M dgmin...@mediacombb.net Subject: Re: [time-nuts] HP 654A Manual To: time-nuts@febo.com Message-ID: F5FA4565B87547A893E7D4EAC1AA1F83@D77M7BF1 Content-Type: text/plain;

[time-nuts] FE-5680A

2011-02-06 Thread Murray Greenman
Bud, I have a couple of these units going nicely, but I agree with Bob, you are best to sort the pinouts for yourself since they vary. Take the lid off (it's fairly simple, screws on the base, on the side and by the connector) and identify the 5V regulator input, then use an Ohmmeter to find

Re: [time-nuts] Paging a couple of people

2011-02-06 Thread Robert Darlington
David, your email isn't going in my spam bin and I'm not ignoring you. You sent me an email before I was awake and didn't wait for a reply. I waited patiently for the better part of a year for you to solve issues sourcing parts and getting boards done. How about giving me a couple of hours to

Re: [time-nuts] HP 654A Manual

2011-02-06 Thread Pete Lancashire
i'll more the 2nd that, Dave is amazing and considering the time it takes to scan, specially the long fold outs what he charges is very reasonable. Plus is you have a manual he is looking to scan, you send it to him he scans it, sends it back with a CD/DVD of your manual and a free one of your

[time-nuts] is there a decent GPS/GNSS list ?

2011-02-06 Thread Pete Lancashire
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Re: [time-nuts] HP 654A Manual

2011-02-06 Thread paul swed
Boy I highly recommend Dave and Artek Media. Couple comments Very fast to turn a link around so you can download the manual Many of the manuals you may get for free from agilent and other places. But, when you magnify those schematics they typically fall apart. I don't know why but its always the

Re: [time-nuts] 10MHz to 80MHz frequency multiplier

2011-02-06 Thread Geraldo Lino de Campos
Perhaps a bit late, but have you considered the ICS670? http://www.idt.com/products/getDoc.cfm?docID=18461996 -- Geraldo Lino de Campos gera...@decampos.net ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To

Re: [time-nuts] FE-5680A

2011-02-06 Thread Rex
On 2/6/2011 9:57 AM, Murray Greenman wrote: there should not be a 5V input required on the 5680A. There are MANY versions of 5680A. Some definitely do need 5 V input to work. From this thread, apparently on the ones that do need 5 V input, different versions even use different pins for this

Re: [time-nuts] 10MHz to 80MHz frequency multiplier

2011-02-06 Thread Tijd Dingen
Perhaps a bit late, but have you considered the ICS670? http://www.idt.com/products/getDoc.cfm?docID=18461996 I just checked the datasheet. Wouldn't you say that it would result in more noise when compared to a CVHD-950/ADF4002 combo? regards, Fred

Re: [time-nuts] Frequency multiplication

2011-02-06 Thread Tijd Dingen
Hopefully you mean this along the lines of: should you decide to feed two different clocks into the Virtex-2, and use the dedicated global clocks, then you guess the isolation between those 2 global clock lines to be on the order of about 20-30 dB. So basically... No guessing.. I've

Re: [time-nuts] Distributed DDS

2011-02-06 Thread Florian E. Teply
On Sun, 30 Jan 2011 23:47:10 +0100 Magnus Danielson mag...@rubidium.dyndns.org wrote: On 30/01/11 23:08, ehydra wrote: I'm not sure if I overview the problem correctly. Hm, why not run the cable back and measure the round time? Half this time und you know the delay of one way. Then you can