Re: [time-nuts] Rb short-term noise (was RE: Is this a cesium...)

2012-08-24 Thread Hal Murray
jmi...@pop.net said: The phase noise plot gives you another view of the same loop characteristics. The PRS-10 has a huge spur at 60 Hz. What were you using for a power supply? (Or what should I be asking?) -- These are my opinions. I hate spam.

Re: [time-nuts] Rb short-term noise (was RE: Is this a cesium...)

2012-08-24 Thread Azelio Boriani
Magnus warned us about the use of very long time constant to act on disciplining. In my opinion it is better to use quieter data coming from a relatively fast sampling Kalman filter and correct as frequently as possible then train the filter with long time constants. On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 9:14

Re: [time-nuts] Is this a cesium frequency standard?

2012-08-24 Thread Robert Atkinson
Hi Dave, He lists hundreds of items, has 11 feedback and all of that is for low cost items. I've actually reported his items to ebay before because of keyword and brand name spamming. I wonder if this is why he no longer uses analogue of in his titles. The items are overpriced and probably of

[time-nuts] HP/Agilet counter 53151A trigger problems

2012-08-24 Thread Bernd Neubig
Hi all, I have several HP/Agilent frequency counters 53151A (and 53152A) in my lab. Several of them meanwhile show trigger problems. I have tested the A and B channel between 5 MHz and 200 MHZ at three input levels of -10 dBm, 0 dBm and +10 dBm. Those with trigger problems show erroneous

Re: [time-nuts] HP/Agilet counter 53151A trigger problems

2012-08-24 Thread Azelio Boriani
From the datasheet: A input 10Hz..125MHz min level 25mVrms (-19dBm) B input min 50MHz, -20dBm the problem is on A input only? Maybe 150MHz for the A input, being beyond the official specifications, requires more signal on one counter than the other. In the past they all were fine? I have read your

[time-nuts] PAGING: Arthur Dent, Odetics help

2012-08-24 Thread Bruce Lane
Hi, Arthur, I just found an old post of yours from Feb-2012, where you detailed, essentially, converting an FEI/Zyfer 365 to a 565. I'm going to be in the same boat very soon, as I just got hold of a 365. Could I trouble you for a dump-file of the EPROM you mentioned, as well as

Re: [time-nuts] HP-5065a bought and finally working!

2012-08-24 Thread Edgardo Molina
Dear Paul, Thank you for sharing your comments with me. I am back from a business trip and found lots of answers to my concerns. The instrument continues in the green with voltage indication within limits. You are right. After valuing the 5065a, I rather play with the cheap Rbs. Take care

Re: [time-nuts] HP-5065a bought and finally working!

2012-08-24 Thread Edgardo Molina
Dear Bert, Thank you for your always expert advise. I am receiving an HP 105B next week and for sure I will be doing some disciplining with the Thunderbolt. I just started to gather operational information on the 5065a to start a record. I also have been reading about those methods and also

Re: [time-nuts] HP-5065a bought and finally working!

2012-08-24 Thread Edgardo Molina
Dear Joe, Thank you for your thoughts! The extra manual sheets will certainly be of a great help. I will come back to you regarding the serial number of the equipment and also the part number of the manual. I am still at the office. Following the multiple advises, I am ordering a Brooke Shera

Re: [time-nuts] HP-5065a bought and finally working!

2012-08-24 Thread EWKehren
Edgardo If you need a Shera board and parts I still have some extras. Contact me off list. Bert In a message dated 8/24/2012 4:05:08 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, xe1...@amsat.org writes: Dear Bert, Thank you for your always expert advise. I am receiving an HP 105B next week and for

Re: [time-nuts] HP-5065a bought and finally working!

2012-08-24 Thread Edgardo Molina
Dear Azelio, Wow! The TimePod is a beauty. I wrote to John Miles regarding payment options and ordering instructions. Not planning to buy one at that price soon, but better be safe than sorry. What a nice piece of equipment. Are all of you guys obtaining your graphical information and Allan

Re: [time-nuts] HP-5065a bought and finally working!

2012-08-24 Thread Edgardo Molina
Dear Chuck, Thank you for your advise. Could you please kindly give me an example of such a GPIB counter with phase measurement? HP model number? My 5065a has been running with a beautiful green light for almost 72hrs. Glad to be back home and found it warm and stable. Take care! Regards,

Re: [time-nuts] HP-5065a bought and finally working!

2012-08-24 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
Hi Eduardo -- For longer term measurements (e.g., tau of an hour or more) a very nice and inexpensive counter is the HP 5334A/B. I haven't looked recently, but in the past I bought several off eBay for $150 or less. They are fairly modern, compact (2U high), and don't have a noisy fan.

Re: [time-nuts] HP-5065a bought and finally working!

2012-08-24 Thread Edgardo Molina
Dear John, Thank you for such a detailed response. I will certainly look for Ebay opportunities on the models you kindly advised. I had the TAPR unit on my mind for several months but not sure about the way it could behave for these kind of measurements. I see this hobby will last for a long

Re: [time-nuts] Understanding Oliver Collins Paper Design of Low Jitter Hard Limiters

2012-08-24 Thread raj_sodhi
Hello Bruce and others, Thanks for the clarifications. Thanks to your e-mail, the light went on about the difference between slope gain g and voltage gain G. I'm continuing to struggle with equation 3b. We are all on the same page regarding this idea that when the clipper is at its negative or

Re: [time-nuts] HP-5065a bought and finally working!

2012-08-24 Thread Ron Ward
Hi Burt: I just purchased four Shera boards from AA Engineering and four Motorola Oncore UT+ receivers from TAPER. I would be interested in any parts from you that would be available for purchase. I do not have a PIC programmer. I don't know where to find the firmware for the PIC 16 F XXX chip.