Re: [time-nuts] LPRO questions...

2013-09-06 Thread Magnus Danielson
Hi Alan, I used a fairly crude heat gun, and I looked at the lamp and was able to see when it had cleared since I had evaporated the rubidium from the glas. But it was not extreme heat (it's a small heat-gun anyway) or particular long time. I had to redo it and re-think it to figure out how to

Re: [time-nuts] GPS outage?

2013-09-06 Thread Magnus Danielson
On 09/06/2013 05:06 AM, Chris Albertson wrote: Can anyone estimate how many GPS jammers there are in the New England area? There just might be thousands. I don't know. I think the reason most people are not effected is that most GPS user are mobile and if they are near a jammer it is only

Re: [time-nuts] 2 questions on HP 5371A/5372A

2013-09-06 Thread Magnus Danielson
On 09/06/2013 07:20 AM, Mark C. Stephens wrote: Ah more people should take the leap, the broke ones are cheap and are moistly easy to fix and you have the almighty HP service manuals to guide you through the toughest of faults. Isn't it great how they even deal with handling multiple faults

Re: [time-nuts] Raw GPS signal samples

2013-09-06 Thread Peter Monta
I've got a raw wideband GPS capture, dual frequency L1/L2, on this page about my GPS/GNSS front-end board project: http://pmonta.com/blog/2012/06/04/gnss-firehose/ I plan to do a new spin of this board with some minor improvements as soon as I have the time. (For those who want to build the

Re: [time-nuts] GPS outage?

2013-09-06 Thread Bob Camp
Hi A truck jammer isn't what you would use to take out a large area, you would need 100,000 of that sort of jammer. Since the truckers that use them get fired, there's a limited number of them in use…. That said, if the event is simply toggling into holdover and then immediately popping back

[time-nuts] UK: MSF 60 kHz from Anthorn down on Thursday 12 September 2013 from 10:00 to 14:00 BST

2013-09-06 Thread David J Taylor
The MSF 60 kHz time and frequency signal broadcast from Anthorn Radio Station will be shut down on Thursday 12 September 2013 from 10:00 to 14:00 BST (UTC+1). The interruption to the transmission is required to allow maintenance work to be carried out in safety. See:

Re: [time-nuts] 2 questions on HP 5371A/5372A

2013-09-06 Thread Bob Camp
Hi The lack of long tau analysis is what keeps the 5371 and 5372 from becoming staple items with TImeNuts. Bob On Sep 6, 2013, at 3:08 AM, Magnus Danielson mag...@rubidium.dyndns.org wrote: On 09/06/2013 07:20 AM, Mark C. Stephens wrote: Ah more people should take the leap, the broke ones

[time-nuts] First frequency counter

2013-09-06 Thread Edesio Costa e Silva
Hi Folks! I am following the time-nuts for sometime but this is the first time I post a message and I hope it is not off-topic. As I live in Brazil, I can not find used equipment in the local market. My (only?) option is to import some. Since money is always a scarce resource and the shipping

Re: [time-nuts] First frequency counter

2013-09-06 Thread Robert Atkinson
Hi Edesio, Welcome to the group. The HP 5316A you are looking at is an excellent little counter. While not up to extreme time nut standards, they work well and in my opinion would make a much better first counter than (say) one of the modern low end (not known brand) new counters or

Re: [time-nuts] Raw GPS signal samples

2013-09-06 Thread Collins, Graham
I stumbled across a web site which provides details on the use of GPS for ionospeheric research. http://chain.physics.unb.ca/chain/ under data products there is a link to raw GPS data which may or may not be suitable. You need to register in order to have access however. There are some

Re: [time-nuts] Raw GPS signal samples

2013-09-06 Thread Mark C. Stephens
I prefer to lug around my trusty old 5335A for the general bench work. Actually, I noticed the darn (5335a's) have been breeding in the store room, there is 7 of them there now! I wouldn't guarantee the Cal or if they work even though! Funnily enough, I have just kicked a 5334B out of the

[time-nuts] nortel NTGS50AA embarrassing moment OCXO EFC Pin open circuit

2013-09-06 Thread Mark C. Stephens
I got sent a duff NTGS50AA with a crook Trimble 49422C oscillator module. Not from Bob, he always checks his stuff, I have my vague suspicion this was sold as untested when the seller knew it was a dud.. Anyway, we are rearranging the workshop and I couldn't get to the Weller desolder station.

Re: [time-nuts] GPS outage?

2013-09-06 Thread Jim Lux
On 9/6/13 4:00 AM, Bob Camp wrote: Hi A truck jammer isn't what you would use to take out a large area, you would need 100,000 of that sort of jammer. Since the truckers that use them get fired, there's a limited number of them in use…. Considering they cost $30, and they're not that easy to

Re: [time-nuts] GPS outage?

2013-09-06 Thread George Sintchak
Hi Brian, No unusual GPS blips noticed here with my Z3801a on Long Island, NY either. The SVN 4 may have caused a holdover event to download a new almanac and some receivers were not happy doing that if only seeing a few birds and/or poor geometry in NE area at that time. FCSTDV, or Forecast

Re: [time-nuts] LPRO questions...

2013-09-06 Thread Alan Kamrowski II
Hi Magnus, Well, I went ahead and tried this again - 400 C, bulb spinning, back end of bulb upwards, 75 seconds. Kept the bulb in the same direction until it cooled. Lamp voltage did not go up, in fact it seemed to return back to 3.5V from 3.7V, but the lock time went down. It was running just

[time-nuts] Looking at this picture - where is the temperature sensor?

2013-09-06 Thread Alan Kamrowski II
Hi Everyone, http://www.ko4bb.com/Manuals/05%29_GPS_Timing/RFTG-m/RFTG-m-rb_L105A_Hi_res/ lucent%283%29.jpg I'm trying to figure out where the RFTG gets its Rb module temperature and I think it has to be on the board above most likely in the upper left. The cutout is where the RB module

Re: [time-nuts] GPS outage?

2013-09-06 Thread Lisa Perdue
Trimble has confirmed to us that the nonstandard outage on PRN 4 (SVN 34) may have caused the Resolution-T receivers to perform a reset and then return to normal operation. They are investigating the cause but it does explain why only some people experienced the event. Other Trimble receivers and

Re: [time-nuts] GPS outage?

2013-09-06 Thread Bill Hawkins
You bet I'm outraged by GPS causing the death of simpler, more secure systems like Loran. GPS has many ways to fail, but vacuum tube transmitters just required new tubes. Aren't you outraged too? Wait - this is about outages? Never mind. (Remembering Emily Litella / Gilda Ratner - violins in

Re: [time-nuts] GPS outage?

2013-09-06 Thread Ed Palmer
Bill, did you forget your meds or double up on the dosage or something? ;-) Ed On 9/6/2013 1:07 PM, Bill Hawkins wrote: You bet I'm outraged by GPS causing the death of simpler, more secure systems like Loran. GPS has many ways to fail, but vacuum tube transmitters just required new tubes.

[time-nuts] New NTBW50AA

2013-09-06 Thread quartz55
I got this thing today. Here's some pics of it. http://s251.photobucket.com/user/DogTi/library/time?sort=3page=1 Can anyone tell me anything significant about it? I know less than nothing as I'm real new to this. It came with a Alcatel Lucent 26dB antenna, pipe mount and a couple of SMB

Re: [time-nuts] New NTBW50AA

2013-09-06 Thread Paul Berger
I have that same board and I am powering it from a 30VDC unregulated power cube from an old printer, it has been working well that way for several months now. The specs say it will shutdown at around 18V so it will probably be OK at 19.5, if it is a unregulated brick the actual output may

Re: [time-nuts] First frequency counter

2013-09-06 Thread Pete Lancashire
Just make sure both channels are OK Sometimes you can find them with the C channel for the same price -pete On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 5:01 AM, Robert Atkinson robert8...@yahoo.co.ukwrote: Hi Edesio, Welcome to the group. The HP 5316A you are looking at is an excellent little counter. While

[time-nuts] New NTBW50AA

2013-09-06 Thread quartz55
Thanks Paul. I was thinking about the AC and maybe I won't go there. It may be just too much ripple for the PS converter, but yeah, the 19.5VDC may work, if not like I say, I've got a nice 5A 28VAC transformer I can get about 35VDC out of with a large cap it should be good enough. I should

Re: [time-nuts] GPS outage?

2013-09-06 Thread Bob Camp
Hi Ok, here's why the guy gets fired: The trucking company doesn't do the GPS thing to catch the trucker goofing off. They do it because they get paid to do it. A number of companies will only ship with you *if* you can real time track the cargo and tell them when it'll get to their dock. Why

Re: [time-nuts] GPS outage?

2013-09-06 Thread John C. Westmoreland, P.E.
Lisa, Thanks for this update. How many Resolution-T receivers are out there? Not to go off on another tangent - but I have heard something about 'GPS jamming during the America's Cup'. Hmmm. Regards, John Westmoreland On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 8:54 AM, Lisa Perdue perdue.l...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: [time-nuts] New NTBW50AA

2013-09-06 Thread Bob Camp
Hi Looks very much like the units I have here. I would not put AC on it since the switcher might not like the ripple. If you want the switcher to last a long time, stay away from the ends of it's range. Their efficiency drops at each end, heat goes up, and lifetime goes down. By far the

Re: [time-nuts] New NTBW50AA

2013-09-06 Thread paul swed
OK I will comment I believe the bridges intention is to allow either a plus or minus dc system with respect to ground. Clever. However the cap jus past it looks pretty beefy and then there is an additional one beyond that so looks like ac is a possibility. Check the diode bridge specs though to

Re: [time-nuts] GPS outage?

2013-09-06 Thread John C. Westmoreland, P.E.
Fellow Time Nuts: Is this a site to be trusted?: http://adn.agi.com/SatelliteOutageCalendar/SOFCalendar.aspx Regards, John W. On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 6:41 PM, John C. Westmoreland, P.E. j...@westmorelandengineering.com wrote: Lisa, Thanks for this update. How many Resolution-T receivers