[time-nuts] powering Trimble Thunderbolt with -5V rather than -12V

2013-10-31 Thread Stewart Cobb
Executive summary: you can power a surplus gold Thunderbolt using a -5V supply in place of a -12V supply, and it will probably work just fine. Details: The manual for Trimble Thunderbolts specifies power supplies of +5V, +12V, and -12V. It turns out that power supplies that provide +5V, +12V,

Re: [time-nuts] powering Trimble Thunderbolt with -5V rather than -12V

2013-10-31 Thread Robert Atkinson
Hi, Interesting investigation, thanks for sharing. Another option I have used was +12V +5V  with the -12V rail powered by a 9V output isolated DC-DC converter from an old thin ethernet network card. These come in either 5V or 12V input and are effecitvely free (you also get 10MHz isolaton

Re: [time-nuts] Surface Mount OCXO Questions

2013-10-31 Thread Bob Camp
Hi The control voltage on the 12 V OCXO is likely 0-10V or 0-5V. The tune on the 3.3V part isn’t going to be above 3.3V and it may be 0-2.5V. The 3.3V part is going to be at least 8X more sensitive to grounding issues. To put this in perspective, you can see a change on a normal 12V part

Re: [time-nuts] Surface Mount OCXO Questions

2013-10-31 Thread Jim Lux
On 10/31/13 4:02 AM, Bob Camp wrote: Hi The control voltage on the 12 V OCXO is likely 0-10V or 0-5V. The tune on the 3.3V part isn’t going to be above 3.3V and it may be 0-2.5V. The 3.3V part is going to be at least 8X more sensitive to grounding issues. I've got a BUNCH of VCOs that are

Re: [time-nuts] Surface Mount OCXO Questions

2013-10-31 Thread Robert LaJeunesse
A couple tricks I've learned along the way: 1) If using a switching supply is required to get a higher voltage, follow it with a good LDO to reduce the noise level. I've done this successfully for powering handheld radio microphones with built-in amplification, video amplifiers, and for

Re: [time-nuts] Anyone Know What The Models Were In This NIST Paper?

2013-10-31 Thread paul swed
I am just glad this thread ran. Just downloaded the paper and its one of those questions I have had for a while but no time to do some digging. Great! Regards Paul WB8TSL On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 7:33 PM, Magnus Danielson mag...@rubidium.dyndns.org wrote: On 10/31/2013 12:14 AM, Jim Lux wrote:

Re: [time-nuts] Surface Mount OCXO Questions

2013-10-31 Thread John C. Westmoreland, P.E.
Bob, These are good suggestions. I will probably end up doing 1) and 2) you have outlined above. Thanks! John W. On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 7:51 AM, Robert LaJeunesse rlajeune...@sbcglobal.net wrote: A couple tricks I've learned along the way: 1) If using a switching supply is required to

Re: [time-nuts] powering Trimble Thunderbolt with -5V rather than -12V

2013-10-31 Thread Mark C. Stephens
A popular solution down under is to use a 555 timer driving a charge pump to generate negative rails from a single positive supply. Example here: http://www.vk2hmc.net/blog/?p=970 Hi all - I'm back :) --marki -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com

[time-nuts] powering Trimble Thunderbolt with -5V rather than -12V

2013-10-31 Thread Arthur Dent
Having dismantled a good number of the wireless locator units that these Trimble Thunderbolts were in I can tell you that the DC-DC power supply in these units did not have a -12VDC output but put out -7VDC instead. If I recall the DAC output voltage of almost all the T-bolts I tested was