A popular solution down under is to use a 555 timer driving a charge pump to 
generate negative rails from a single positive supply.

        Example here:  http://www.vk2hmc.net/blog/?p=970

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--marki

-----Original Message-----
From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf 
Of Stewart Cobb
Sent: Thursday, 31 October 2013 5:12 PM
To: time-nuts@febo.com
Subject: [time-nuts] powering Trimble Thunderbolt with -5V rather than -12V

Executive summary:  you can power a surplus gold Thunderbolt using a -5V supply 
in place of a -12V supply, and it will probably work just fine.

Details:  The manual for Trimble Thunderbolts specifies power supplies of +5V, 
+12V, and -12V.  It turns out that power supplies that provide
+5V, +12V, and -5V are easier to obtain locally.  I began to wonder
what circuitry in the Thunderbolt required -12V, and whether it would run just 
as well on -5V.  So I took one apart and started probing.

As far as I can tell, the -12V supply goes to only two places.  One is the 
negative supply pin for the quad op-amp (LT1014) in the DAC circuit for the 
OCXO.  The other is a strange little circuit involving a 2N3904 (SOT-23 marked 
1A) near the "232" driver chip, right next to the serial port.  This circuit 
seems to be comparing the -12V input with one of the charge-pump pins on the 
232 chip.  Its output (?) connects to a test point labeled "MON".  I assumed 
this was non-critical and decided to ignore it.

The LT1014 op-amp is rated for operation on supply voltage as little as 5V and 
as much as 30V (+/- 15V).  The spec sheet says the output saturates about (1V 
typical / 3.5V max over temperature) above the negative supply.  Presumably, if 
the op-amp is not asked to generate output voltages lower than -1.5V, it should 
run fine with a -5V negative supply.
The only negative voltages I could find, probing around the op-amp circuit, 
were generated by AC-coupling digital square waves.  None of the op-amp outputs 
were negative.  (My DAC steady-state value was around +300mV, which appeared 
many places in the circuit.  Presumably a slightly negative DAC value would 
also appear in many places, but as long as it's greater than -1500mV, it won't 
matter.)

Armed with theoretical and practical confirmation that this should work, I 
tried it.  And, oddly enough, it appears to be working.  Two different 
Thunderbolts have been powered by +5/+12/-5 supplies, and both have settled 
down and started tracking exactly as one would expect.  For one, the "settled" 
DAC voltage was within a few millivolts of the value it had on the specified 
power supplies, shortly before the change.  The other had not been powered on 
for a while and is still settling, but it seems happy.

There is a subtle possibility for concern, in that the sensitive DAC signals 
near ground are now about 3.5V away from the center of the op-amp supply range. 
 This could theoretically cause increased distortion, offset, or offset drift 
due to the larger common-mode voltage on the op-amp inputs.  In practice, it 
does not appear to be an issue.

This note applies to the common surplus Thunderbolts in the gold-anodized box, 
with the Trimble-branded OCXO.  All of those I've tried seem to settle with DAC 
voltages near zero.  If you try this with another style of Thunderbolt, you're 
on your own.

Cheers!
--Stu
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