Re: [time-nuts] Time security query

2009-08-25 Thread Hal Murray
javier.serrano.par...@gmail.com said: > There are some exceptions to this, with PLCs and other pieces of > hardware getting sync from NTP. We've had problems in our Post Mortem > system in the past, with a PLC not receiving NTP traffic because of > router misconfiguration and this resulting in inc

[time-nuts] Time security query

2009-08-25 Thread Mark Sims
I had a GPS receiver and a pair of small 315 MHz transmitter and receiver modules that I wanted to fly in a rocket. I knew the data link was good to around 1/2 mile at 2400 bits/sec. I wired up the units, installed them in the rocket payload section, took it outside, switched it on, and

Re: [time-nuts] Time security query

2009-08-25 Thread Hal Murray
If anybody is interested in jamming GPS, here is a great story. It's jamming rather than spoofing. The Hunt for RFI Unjamming a Coast Harbor James R. Clynch, Andrew A. Parker, George Badger, Wilbur R. Vincent, Paul McGill, Richard W. Adler GPS World, Jan 1, 2003 http://www.gpsworld.com/gps/s

Re: [time-nuts] Time security query

2009-08-25 Thread Lux, Jim (337C)
> > Spoofing a GPS receiver should not be too hard. I would record the GPS > spectrum off the air, then play it back, delayed by some sufficient time to > confuse > whatever you are trying to confuse. By playing back actual signals, the GPS > receiver would > hear a self consistent set of sign

Re: [time-nuts] Time security query

2009-08-25 Thread Javier Serrano
Hi, from a timing perspective we treat CERN as a factory of particle beams, so probably our ideas on timing systems apply to industrial control systems as well. We have a single GPSDO with Rubidium for holdover and our Central Timing Generator only looks at it at power up to get its first PPS and U