Re: [time-nuts] Motorola ... ONCORE P/N B8221B116

2009-12-22 Thread ernieperes
Hi Everybody, Many thanks for all info regarding this module...It is running with TAC32 software but unable to switch over to self survey mode... the battery is low, only +1,4Voltage. Best regards, Ernie. -Original Message- From: Brian Kirby kilodelta4foxm...@gmail.com To:

Re: [time-nuts] Synchronizing to WWV

2009-12-22 Thread Neville Michie
Hi none of these nist references will download to me in Australia, is it some sort of national security issue? cheers, Neville Michie On 21/12/2009, at 11:01 PM, Hal Murray wrote: t...@leapsecond.com said: Your ears are correct; the 100 Hz code began in 1960. See:

Re: [time-nuts] Synchronizing to WWV

2009-12-22 Thread Bruce Griffiths
Neville Michie wrote: Hi none of these nist references will download to me in Australia, is it some sort of national security issue? cheers, Neville Michie They download fine across the ditch. Probably a problem with your ISP. Bruce On 21/12/2009, at 11:01 PM, Hal Murray wrote:

Re: [time-nuts] Synchronizing to WWV

2009-12-22 Thread Rob Kimberley
Download OK in UK. Rob Kimberley -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Neville Michie Sent: 22 December 2009 09:14 To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Synchronizing to WWV Hi

Re: [time-nuts] Synchronizing to WWV

2009-12-22 Thread Rex Moncur
Hi Neville They work OK to Tasmania so we must have the required clearance, hi Rex VK7MO Hi none of these nist references will download to me in Australia, is it some sort of national security issue? cheers, Neville Michie ___ time-nuts mailing

[time-nuts] Marginally off topic... Aircraft Automatic Direction Finders as beacon receivers.

2009-12-22 Thread Tom Clifton
Approaching off topic, but possibly of interest as Loran and WWVL is on the fringes of this... I have several dead King KR-85 ADF untis that I want to  repair and press into service as 505khz beacon monitors.  Designed primarily for receiving 200khz to 500khz

Re: [time-nuts] Marginally off topic... Aircraft Automatic DirectionFinders as beacon receivers.

2009-12-22 Thread WB6BNQ
Hi Tom, I haven't seen one of those for a few years. I don't have a manual, but have you tried going straight to the manufacturer ? I think they may still be in business. However, they may not be cheap either. One word of caution before you blindly buy that manual. Many of the so-called

Re: [time-nuts] Motorola ... ONCORE P/N B8221B116

2009-12-22 Thread Art Sepin
Ernie, If you don't have it yet, the complete VP command set is available at our web site: http://www.synergy-gps.com/images/stories/pdf/vpcommands.pdf It's 1.88 mb but hypper-linked and easy to use. The right-most column of the Command Index called Controller Command refers to a DOS based

Re: [time-nuts] Motorola ... ONCORE P/N B8221B116

2009-12-22 Thread WB6BNQ
Hi Art, Good to see you join us here. Have a Merry XMAS and a happy new year. BillWB6BNQ Art Sepin wrote: Ernie, If you don't have it yet, the complete VP command set is available at our web site: http://www.synergy-gps.com/images/stories/pdf/vpcommands.pdf It's 1.88 mb but

Re: [time-nuts] Synchronizing to WWV

2009-12-22 Thread Hal Murray
rvas...@rob-vassar.com said: The problem with the working configuration was that the DSP code consumed virtually all the old SuperSPARC-II CPU's capacity. In Intel x86 terms, these were roughly equivalent to a pre-MMX Pentium 90, so a modern system should fare much better. ntpd on a 1GHz

Re: [time-nuts] Motorola ... ONCORE P/N B8221B116

2009-12-22 Thread Art Sepin
Thanks, Bill. I'm trying to monitor the group when time permits and help out where I can. I believe you know that we've hired Cliff Nowak (pronounced Novak) as our Sr. Engineer. He comes to us from the wireless industry (WaveCom wireless modules). Cliff took over from Randy Warner who accepted an

[time-nuts] Randy Watner - was ONCORE P/N B8221B116

2009-12-22 Thread WB6BNQ
Geezs Art, No I did not know about Randy's demise. I really liked Randy and am truly sorry to hear the bad news. He will be missed. BillWB6BNQ Art Sepin wrote: Thanks, Bill. I'm trying to monitor the group when time permits and help out where I can. I believe you know that we've

[time-nuts] Cheap Rubidium

2009-12-22 Thread Bob Camp
Hi If I randomly pick up a FE 5680A data sheet, I find that it's short term stability is 1.4/sqrt(Tau) x 10-11. Since I never doubt anything I see on a data sheet, this immediately tells me I should get 1.4x10-12 at 100 seconds, and I only have to wait for 10,000 seconds to get to 1.4x10-13.

Re: [time-nuts] Cheap Rubidium

2009-12-22 Thread Bruce Griffiths
Bob Camp wrote: Hi If I randomly pick up a FE 5680A data sheet, I find that it's short term stability is 1.4/sqrt(Tau) x 10-11. Since I never doubt anything I see on a data sheet, this immediately tells me I should get 1.4x10-12 at 100 seconds, and I only have to wait for 10,000 seconds to

Re: [time-nuts] Cheap Rubidium

2009-12-22 Thread John Miles
The cheap Datum LPRO-101s coming out of China appear to be capable of great performance, no problems at all getting into the 1E-13s at t=1000 seconds. (This plot shouldn't be taken seriously beyond t=1000s, and the flattening effect at t=700s might be the Thunderbolt's fault. I haven't run my

Re: [time-nuts] Cheap Rubidium

2009-12-22 Thread Bob Camp
Hi I agree that if you simply bolt the rubidium to an old engine block and toss a blanket over it, you might get some pretty good thermal stability in the hour to couple hours time period. That's certainly a better approach than putting some kind of DC heater (and it's varying magnetic field)

Re: [time-nuts] Cheap Rubidium

2009-12-22 Thread Bruce Griffiths
Bob Some isothermal radiation (thermal) shields between the blanket and the top of the Rubidium source may also be required. Unless you have a hydrogen maser you will need to use 3 rubidium sources each with its own engine block in order to determine AVAR (using the 3 cornered hat

Re: [time-nuts] Cheap Rubidium

2009-12-22 Thread John Miles
Some isothermal radiation (thermal) shields between the blanket and the top of the Rubidium source may also be required. Unless you have a hydrogen maser you will need to use 3 rubidium sources each with its own engine block in order to determine AVAR (using the 3 cornered hat technique).

Re: [time-nuts] Motorola ... ONCORE P/N B8221B116

2009-12-22 Thread SAIDJACK
Hi Art, we all lost a true friend. He was always willing to lend a helping hand. take care, bye, Said In a message dated 12/22/2009 15:05:56 Pacific Standard Time, a...@synergy-gps.com writes: We met Randy back in 1975 when we both worked at Hydro Products, an oceanographic and

[time-nuts] Curve fitting

2009-12-22 Thread Mark Sims
A disciplined oscillator can be modeled by an equation like: OSC_FREQ = DRIFT_RATE*TIME + TEMPCO*TEMP + OSC_GAIN*DAC_VOLTAGE For a set of data I know TIME, TEMP, FREQ, DAC_VOLTAGE and OSC_GAIN (a constant in Hz/V). What the good Lady Heather wants to calculate is the DRIFT_RATE (Hz per

Re: [time-nuts] Curve fitting

2009-12-22 Thread Bruce Griffiths
Mark Sims wrote: A disciplined oscillator can be modeled by an equation like: OSC_FREQ = DRIFT_RATE*TIME + TEMPCO*TEMP + OSC_GAIN*DAC_VOLTAGE For a set of data I know TIME, TEMP, FREQ, DAC_VOLTAGE and OSC_GAIN (a constant in Hz/V). What the good Lady Heather wants to calculate is the

Re: [time-nuts] Cheap Rubidium

2009-12-22 Thread Don Latham
sheesh! How about a right-sized water jug? Don - Original Message - From: Bob Camp li...@cq.nu To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 8:23 PM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Cheap Rubidium Hi I agree that if you simply