Re: [time-nuts] ny information regarding FEI-Zyfer GPS Time Frequency Module

2010-12-14 Thread Rob Kimberley
Have just done a search on EBay. Which one in particular? From what I can see, it looks like someone has broken up a CommSync II. There are GPS and output modules listed. Not much good on their own. Check out http://www.zyfer.com/ for info on the CommSync II product line. Rob Kimberley

[time-nuts] TAC/TDC

2010-12-14 Thread Josef Kölbl
I am looking for a commercial drop-in module/solution of a time-to-analog or even time-to-digital converter module with = 1 ps resolution (device should eventually go on a printed-circuit board). Critical issues are: linearity, stability, accuracy, jitter and precision. The maximum time

Re: [time-nuts] TAC/TDC

2010-12-14 Thread J. Forster
There was a thread about such a chip a few months ago, I think. -John I am looking for a commercial drop-in module/solution of a time-to-analog or even time-to-digital converter module with = 1 ps resolution (device should eventually go on a printed-circuit board).

Re: [time-nuts] TAC/TDC

2010-12-14 Thread Robert LaJeunesse
Check out www.acam.de  where the part I made note of was the TDC-GP2. But it only has resolution of 50ps rms. From: J. Forster j...@quik.com To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Tue, December 14, 2010 9:54:55 AM

Re: [time-nuts] TAC/TDC

2010-12-14 Thread Bob Camp
Hi Do you also require precision in the ~ 1 ps range as well as resolution? If so, that opens up a whole series of issues about: 1) How long since it was calibrated 2) Temperature and other environmental effects 3) Traceability of calibration Not a simple or cheap problem to solve. Bob

Re: [time-nuts] WTB up to 10 pieces - Rockwell Jupiter - TU30-D140

2010-12-14 Thread Robert Atkinson
Hi Dabney, Sorry for the silence, I missed your reply. It's impossible to know without full details but I'm not sure that the 10kHz output is that suited to this application. The Jupiter has a 1 Hz update rate. As I understand it the 10kHz is updated at 1Hz which can cause phase jumps. I assume

Re: [time-nuts] TAC/TDC

2010-12-14 Thread Bruce Griffiths
Josef Kölbl wrote: I am looking for a commercial drop-in module/solution of a time-to-analog or even time-to-digital converter module with = 1 ps resolution (device should eventually go on a printed-circuit board). Critical issues are: linearity, stability, accuracy, jitter and precision. The

Re: [time-nuts] TAC/TDC

2010-12-14 Thread Magnus Danielson
On 12/14/2010 06:10 PM, Bob Camp wrote: Hi Do you also require precision in the ~ 1 ps range as well as resolution? If so, that opens up a whole series of issues about: 1) How long since it was calibrated 2) Temperature and other environmental effects 3) Traceability of calibration Not a

[time-nuts] TRAK Model 8900-1 GPS Disciplined Freq Std

2010-12-14 Thread Alex Imas
Hello I found Greg Burnett page with question about TRAK model and I have a question, too. Maybe you can help, where did you buy this unit cause I'm looking for GPS synchronizer Model 8901-1 , for our Trak Modular Frequency/Time System Model 8900-50 and TRAK stopped produce it Best regards

Re: [time-nuts] TAC/TDC

2010-12-14 Thread Bob Camp
Hi If such a device is not available at a practical price / not available at all - Are you open to building a TDC / TAC from parts? Bob On Dec 14, 2010, at 7:59 AM, Josef Kölbl wrote: I am looking for a commercial drop-in module/solution of a time-to-analog or even time-to-digital

[time-nuts] GPS for use with NTP server?

2010-12-14 Thread Chris Albertson
I'm going to assemble an NTP sever.I have a suitable computer that actually has both a serial and parallel port that I can connect a 1PPS signal to. I have a question about the GPS recever requirements. Realistically what level of accuracy is required of the 1PPS signal? The reason I ask is

Re: [time-nuts] GPS for use with NTP server?

2010-12-14 Thread Hal Murray
I have a question about the GPS recever requirements. Realistically what level of accuracy is required of the 1PPS signal? The reason I ask is because I can buy a Motorola UT+ OnCore for about $15, the CW12+ for about double the and a new CW12 for a maybe $90. My hunch is that the specs on

[time-nuts] Adjusting accuracy of a Casio G-Shock watch

2010-12-14 Thread Jim Palfreyman
Fellow time-nuts. Over in another part of the internet is a group of people who love their Casio G-Shock watches. These digital watches have been around for decades and are built very well. The one I own is an atomic and solar model (i.e. no battery replacement). However being in Tasmania, I

Re: [time-nuts] WTB up to 10 pieces - Rockwell Jupiter - TU30-D140

2010-12-14 Thread Dabney Crump
Hi Robert, We have the Jupiter working well in our prototype; just need more of them for the final units. I've met Dave and know about his work. My timing requirements are a bit slower than Thrust SSC. I can only imagine what an experience that must have been. I'm involved with a number of Open

Re: [time-nuts] Adjusting accuracy of a Casio G-Shock watch

2010-12-14 Thread Bill Hawkins
Jim, I have such a watch, purchased in Singapore in Oct 2009. It is solar, but it has no radio connection. It is water-resistant to 20 atmospheres (bar). I don't wear it, but I keep it by a southern window. The back cover appears to be held on by four screws. I've not tried to open it. It's off

Re: [time-nuts] Adjusting accuracy of a Casio G-Shock watch

2010-12-14 Thread Chris Albertson
On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 8:16 PM, Jim Palfreyman jim77...@gmail.com wrote: Fellow time-nuts. Over in another part of the internet is a group of people who love their Casio G-Shock watches. These digital watches have been around for decades and are built very well. The one I own is an atomic

Re: [time-nuts] Adjusting accuracy of a Casio G-Shock watch

2010-12-14 Thread Hal Murray
Interestingly, the module has a pad that gives off a stepped square wave at 32768/48 Hz. So with well calibrated equipment (which we all have of course) it is trivial to adjust the trimmer to put the watch back to decent accuracy. Using the smallest adjustment of the trimmer that I could

Re: [time-nuts] GPS for use with NTP server?

2010-12-14 Thread Chris Albertson
On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 7:44 PM, Hal Murray hmur...@megapathdsl.net wrote: How good is your antenna location? The newer units are probably more sensitive. If you get a unit with timing mode firmware, it will work with only one satellite. I can place the antenna on ashort mast on rooftop

[time-nuts] IRIG-B with Arduino

2010-12-14 Thread Bruce Lane
Fellow clock-tickers, I'm finally starting to learn microcontrollers, and have selected Atmel's AVR line as my tool of choice. I've also discovered the Arduino site, and am starting to learn their IDE as well. My first goal will be an open-source/open-hardware IRIG-B decoder

Re: [time-nuts] GPS for use with NTP server?

2010-12-14 Thread Hal Murray
I've downloaded and read some of the GPS user manuals. The new ones are 12 channel and older ones are 5 or 8.I guess with a surveyed location you could get time from just one satellite. But you'd need more if you wanted to take account of the atmosphere. I don't know if receivers do

Re: [time-nuts] IRIG-B with Arduino

2010-12-14 Thread John Miles
Fellow clock-tickers, I'm finally starting to learn microcontrollers, and have selected Atmel's AVR line as my tool of choice. I've also discovered the Arduino site, and am starting to learn their IDE as well. My first goal will be an open-source/open-hardware IRIG-B decoder

Re: [time-nuts] Adjusting accuracy of a Casio G-Shock watch

2010-12-14 Thread Don Latham
Might want to have the watch near body temp when you adjust? Don - Original Message - From: Jim Palfreyman jim77...@gmail.com To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2010 9:16 PM Subject: [time-nuts] Adjusting accuracy of

Re: [time-nuts] IRIG-B with Arduino

2010-12-14 Thread Don Latham
Bruce: You may not need the Mega. I started with the arduino in duemilanuove, and found that there are chips with the bootloader available. The IDE is actually pretty good, not too steep, and there are libraries available for lots of peripherals and lots of sample code. I suggest Sparkfun as a

Re: [time-nuts] IRIG-B with Arduino

2010-12-14 Thread Chris Albertson
If the goal is to learn about AVRs that is a good project. But if you want a cheap IRIG decoder I bet you already have one. An IRIG driver is included with NTP. The NTP driver reads the time code from an audio interface set for 8Khz sample rate.If you are writing a decoder it might be good

Re: [time-nuts] Adjusting accuracy of a Casio G-Shock watch

2010-12-14 Thread Bill Hawkins
Referring to the post with the mechanical procedure, you determine the offset over a couple of weeks. When you open the watch to adjust it, you apply the offset to whatever frequency you find when you open the watch. I don't wear a watch when I sleep, and that becomes part of the offset to be

Re: [time-nuts] TAC/TDC

2010-12-14 Thread Josef Kölbl
Magnus Danielson schrieb: On 12/14/2010 06:10 PM, Bob Camp wrote: Hi Do you also require precision in the ~ 1 ps range as well as resolution? If so, that opens up a whole series of issues about: 1) How long since it was calibrated 2) Temperature and other environmental effects 3)

Re: [time-nuts] TAC/TDC

2010-12-14 Thread Josef Kölbl
Bob, yes, building a TDC/TAC is not a problem. Thanks. Josef Bob Camp schrieb: Hi If such a device is not available at a practical price / not available at all - Are you open to building a TDC / TAC from parts? Bob On Dec 14, 2010, at 7:59 AM, Josef Kölbl wrote: I am looking for a

Re: [time-nuts] Adjusting accuracy of a Casio G-Shock watch

2010-12-14 Thread Jim Palfreyman
Bill, Indeed undoing the four screws is all that's needed. However on some models those screws are covered by various plastic bits which are quite confusing to remove. (Unless you are a gshock-nut!) Jim On Wednesday, 15 December 2010, Bill Hawkins b...@iaxs.net wrote: Jim, I have such a

Re: [time-nuts] GPS for use with NTP server?

2010-12-14 Thread Cook Mike
Le 15/12/2010 07:26, Hal Murray a écrit : But my question was about NTP and if NTP on a typical computer could make use of 1PPS that is down in the nanoseconds A microsecond or few is generally great for NTP. One of the main considerations is temperature of the local crystal which can