Re: [time-nuts] GPS fade out, Sat/Sun
Here is a graph to follow up that event. http://www.megapathdsl.net/~hmurray/time-nuts/Dropout-Feb-11-12-2012.png The green/red lines on the bottom are the good/bad results from the GPRMC sentence each second. The blue/purple lines on top are the number of satellites. good means it had a number in the SNR slot vs empty for bad. The unit is inside my house. I'm in Menlo Park, 94025, the fringe of Silicon Valley. There is probably lots of multi-path from my neighbors house and lots of attenuation from the big tree out front/south-east. The good slots are plotted slightly above the nominal line and the bad are slightly below so they are both visible if they would land on top of each other. I can provide the raw data if anybody wants to investigate more. Does anybody know if the FCC wants data like this and if so do you have a contact? -- These are my opinions, not necessarily my employer's. I hate spam. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] FE-5680A Contact FEI
Unfortunately FEI are very reluctant to provide anything but the basic specs on their products. Company policy. Rob Kimberley -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Bill Riches Sent: 15 February 2012 23:24 To: 'Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement' Subject: Re: [time-nuts] FE-5680A Contact FEI Just curious, Has anyone on this list actually contacted FEI and enquired about a schematic or other info about our 5680 units? They are still being sold by them. 73, Bill Riches, WA2DVU Cape May, NJ ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] FE-5680A Contact FEI
I used to work for one of their subsidiaries, and yes, I agree entirely with what you say Don! Rob -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Don Latham Sent: 16 February 2012 02:59 To: n...@verizon.net; Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] FE-5680A Contact FEI FEI is the most surly and uncooperative company I've dealt with in 40 years. Don Peter Gottlieb I haven't personally tried but others have reported they were somewhat less than cooperative. Peter On 2/15/2012 6:23 PM, Bill Riches wrote: Just curious, Has anyone on this list actually contacted FEI and enquired about a schematic or other info about our 5680 units? They are still being sold by them. 73, Bill Riches, WA2DVU Cape May, NJ ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1424 / Virus Database: 2112/4811 - Release Date: 02/15/12 ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. -- Neither the voice of authority nor the weight of reason and argument are as significant as experiment, for thence comes quiet to the mind. R. Bacon If you don't know what it is, don't poke it. Ghost in the Shell Dr. Don Latham AJ7LL Six Mile Systems LLP 17850 Six Mile Road POB 134 Huson, MT, 59846 VOX 406-626-4304 www.lightningforensics.com www.sixmilesystems.com ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] GPS fade out, Sat/Sun
Lightsquared doing their final test run... Jim ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Oscilloquartz 5240
I have a copy... Are you still interested? Regards, R ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Testing a LPRO RB
There is no mention in the AN1002 (GPS disciplined Stratum 2 clock) of the US patent 7,711,230 and that patent (on optical waveguides) has no mention of temperature correction or tempco extraction... On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 8:55 AM, Ulrich Bangert df...@ulrich-bangert.dewrote: Mark, John DuBois and I did quite a bit of work to find a way to unwind the osc parameters from the available unstabilized reported data using SciLab on the log files, but nothing seemed to work reliably. For some information on how to do that have a look at Analog Devices application note AN-1002 and at the there mentioned US patent US 7,711,230. Best regards Ulrich Bangert -Ursprungliche Nachricht- Von: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] Im Auftrag von Mark Sims Gesendet: Donnerstag, 16. Februar 2012 01:56 An: time-nuts@febo.com Betreff: [time-nuts] Testing a LPRO RB Lady Heather's osc drift rate calculation does assume that the temperature has been stabilized. John DuBois and I did quite a bit of work to find a way to unwind the osc parameters from the available unstabilized reported data using SciLab on the log files, but nothing seemed to work reliably. Generally the data analysis croaked because of things like noise and matrix singularities. Also, if you do stabilize the temperature, it is very easy to get the osc tempco. Just turn off the stabilization and see how the osc drifts as it warms up. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Testing a LPRO RB
Nicholls et al are mentioned and they hold the patent as shown in the attached pic... -Ursprungliche Nachricht- Von: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] Im Auftrag von Azelio Boriani Gesendet: Donnerstag, 16. Februar 2012 13:35 An: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Betreff: Re: [time-nuts] Testing a LPRO RB There is no mention in the AN1002 (GPS disciplined Stratum 2 clock) of the US patent 7,711,230 and that patent (on optical waveguides) has no mention of temperature correction or tempco extraction... On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 8:55 AM, Ulrich Bangert df...@ulrich-bangert.dewrote: Mark, John DuBois and I did quite a bit of work to find a way to unwind the osc parameters from the available unstabilized reported data using SciLab on the log files, but nothing seemed to work reliably. For some information on how to do that have a look at Analog Devices application note AN-1002 and at the there mentioned US patent US 7,711,230. Best regards Ulrich Bangert -Ursprungliche Nachricht- Von: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] Im Auftrag von Mark Sims Gesendet: Donnerstag, 16. Februar 2012 01:56 An: time-nuts@febo.com Betreff: [time-nuts] Testing a LPRO RB Lady Heather's osc drift rate calculation does assume that the temperature has been stabilized. John DuBois and I did quite a bit of work to find a way to unwind the osc parameters from the available unstabilized reported data using SciLab on the log files, but nothing seemed to work reliably. Generally the data analysis croaked because of things like noise and matrix singularities. Also, if you do stabilize the temperature, it is very easy to get the osc tempco. Just turn off the stabilization and see how the osc drifts as it warms up. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. attachment: Nicholls.jpg___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Testing a LPRO RB
Now it is clear: you at first wrote US patent 7,711,230: For some information on how to do that have a look at Analog Devices application note AN-1002 and at the there mentioned US patent US 7,711,230. but it is US 6,711,230. On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 2:23 PM, Ulrich Bangert df...@ulrich-bangert.dewrote: Nicholls et al are mentioned and they hold the patent as shown in the attached pic... -Ursprungliche Nachricht- Von: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] Im Auftrag von Azelio Boriani Gesendet: Donnerstag, 16. Februar 2012 13:35 An: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Betreff: Re: [time-nuts] Testing a LPRO RB There is no mention in the AN1002 (GPS disciplined Stratum 2 clock) of the US patent 7,711,230 and that patent (on optical waveguides) has no mention of temperature correction or tempco extraction... On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 8:55 AM, Ulrich Bangert df...@ulrich-bangert.dewrote: Mark, John DuBois and I did quite a bit of work to find a way to unwind the osc parameters from the available unstabilized reported data using SciLab on the log files, but nothing seemed to work reliably. For some information on how to do that have a look at Analog Devices application note AN-1002 and at the there mentioned US patent US 7,711,230. Best regards Ulrich Bangert -Ursprungliche Nachricht- Von: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] Im Auftrag von Mark Sims Gesendet: Donnerstag, 16. Februar 2012 01:56 An: time-nuts@febo.com Betreff: [time-nuts] Testing a LPRO RB Lady Heather's osc drift rate calculation does assume that the temperature has been stabilized. John DuBois and I did quite a bit of work to find a way to unwind the osc parameters from the available unstabilized reported data using SciLab on the log files, but nothing seemed to work reliably. Generally the data analysis croaked because of things like noise and matrix singularities. Also, if you do stabilize the temperature, it is very easy to get the osc tempco. Just turn off the stabilization and see how the osc drifts as it warms up. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
[time-nuts] nanoseconds in the news
Time is money... http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2012/02/high-speed-trading/ /tvb ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] FE-5680A Question
Hi The sweep range on the LPRO's is very similar to the sweep range on the FE's. They both run the VCXO over a very wide range compared to the width of the Rb resonance. They both also have to accommodate VCXO temperature performance and aging. Bob -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Chris Albertson Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 5:34 PM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] FE-5680A Question On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 2:17 PM, Bob Camp li...@rtty.us wrote: Hi If you look at an LPRO or FRS or any of the other brands of Rb's their sweep is very different. They don't spend very much time at the ends of the sweep at all. It's pretty much a triangle wave sweep up and back sort of thing. They don't seem to care weather they catch the lock going high to low or going low to high. The rate of the sweep is *much* slower than what FE is doing on these units. Since there isn't a brain in most of them, there's no pattern watching stuff there. They just look for a lock signal (amplitude out of the detector) and stop sweeping when they see it. That method requires that your sweep in so narrow that it can't catch any other adjacent spectral lines or dips in the light. FEI may have found a way to use a much wider sweep by havinf a brain able to know the fauslt dips from the one it wants. The ends that appear dead might be where the software analyses the data from the previous sweep. I doubt the little uP can mulitask. The uP is doing something when it is not sending commands to the DDS to cause the sweep. My understanding of a Rb physics package is that you get a forest of lines and only the one is the good one. Chris Albertson Redondo Beach, California ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] FE-5680A Question
Hi The sweep range on the LPRO is similar to the sweep range on the FE. The resonance on the FE may be wider than the LPRO. The cells are similar in size, so I would *guess* the Q's would be similar. The short term plots (good unit vs good unit) look a lot alike, which also would argue for a similar Q. Bob -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Magnus Danielson Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 5:37 PM To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] FE-5680A Question On 02/15/2012 11:17 PM, Bob Camp wrote: Hi If you look at an LPRO or FRS or any of the other brands of Rb's their sweep is very different. They don't spend very much time at the ends of the sweep at all. It's pretty much a triangle wave sweep up and back sort of thing. They don't seem to care weather they catch the lock going high to low or going low to high. The rate of the sweep is *much* slower than what FE is doing on these units. Since there isn't a brain in most of them, there's no pattern watching stuff there. They just look for a lock signal (amplitude out of the detector) and stop sweeping when they see it. Indeed. For analogue logics of the old dinsaurs that I hurd in the basement a sawtooth or triangle scanning is a good strategy to track in, but for a processor logic you can do things a bit differently. Also, consider that the Q seems to be wide on the FEI 5680A you can sweep faster without missing the dip. Another aspect on speed is just how large the (needed) scan range is. Cheers, Magnus ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] FS: HP Z3801A
All, I am to the point where I am interested in selling one of my HP Z3801A GPSDO's. In the past when I mentioned possibly selling one or two of my Z3801A's, I was asked to offer them to the list first before I put them on eBay or anything of the sort. I'd like to see it go to someone who is a time nut as well. I am selling the unit alone, without power supply or antenna, thus anyone interested would need to supply a -48VDC PS and a GPS antenna. I use Motorola GPS antennas with great success. I've also used puck style antennas with success as well. If anyone is interested in picking up a Z3801A, please email me and we will discuss cost and arrangements and such. I'm not looking to really make anything more than my original purchase cost out of it. My email address is b...@shinji.net. Thank you, Brad Stockdale ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
[time-nuts] 3048A software question
Hello team, I am trying to get an HP 3048A system up and running, and I am having problems with enabling spec limit lines on the graph. I can enter the spec line data under the manipulate results then spec lines menu, but the lines I entered are not visible. There are the standard spec lines visible when I do the internal noise floor test, so I know this should work. Does anyone know how to enable these properly? The user manual doesn't talk about this, and it is written for an older version of the software anyway's. Also, I have software version A 01.01 from 1994, does anyone have any more recent software version? Thanks in advance, Said ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] nanoseconds in the news
Time is money... I wonder if long-distance neutrino links might be attractive to the financial community. The SNRs are currently way too low, but with aggressive engineering, a link through the Earth would shave off many, many milliseconds (even at not greater than the speed of light :-) ). The cost would be very high though. Cheers, Peter ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] nanoseconds in the news
Obviously no one is thinking big enough. A hyper-super computer on either side of the Atlantic could run a model of each of the stock markets which could be synchronised by frequent data transfer. The learning power of these models would be very great, and they could deliver a real-time estimate of the other markets that would be hundreds of milliseconds better that neutrinos. The long term veracity of these computers could not be doubted, the noise in short terms would be continually reduced. A system like GPS could be used to synchronise them so they could give nanosecond response. Would that not be great for huge spikes! cheers, Neville Michie On 17/02/2012, at 9:07 AM, Peter Monta wrote: Time is money... I wonder if long-distance neutrino links might be attractive to the financial community. The SNRs are currently way too low, but with aggressive engineering, a link through the Earth would shave off many, many milliseconds (even at not greater than the speed of light :-) ). The cost would be very high though. Cheers, Peter ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] nanoseconds in the news
Frankly, I think the rapidity of the financial system is not a good thing. It encourages the kind of speculation on Wall Street that more properly belongs in Las Vegas. It has bred the demands for ever increasing quarter-over-quarter results that result in cooking of the books and so on that deters long-range planning and thinkingt. YMMV, -John == Time is money... I wonder if long-distance neutrino links might be attractive to the financial community. The SNRs are currently way too low, but with aggressive engineering, a link through the Earth would shave off many, many milliseconds (even at not greater than the speed of light :-) ). The cost would be very high though. Cheers, Peter ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] nanoseconds in the news
EndRun set up the system next door to the NYSE used by GS. I think EndRun has a white paper on their site describing the ultimate in insider trading systems. It has been the subject of a number of articles and a whistle blowers case. Some believe it was responsible for a 1000 point glitch several years ago. Thomas Knox From: namic...@gmail.com Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 09:20:07 +1100 To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] nanoseconds in the news Obviously no one is thinking big enough. A hyper-super computer on either side of the Atlantic could run a model of each of the stock markets which could be synchronised by frequent data transfer. The learning power of these models would be very great, and they could deliver a real-time estimate of the other markets that would be hundreds of milliseconds better that neutrinos. The long term veracity of these computers could not be doubted, the noise in short terms would be continually reduced. A system like GPS could be used to synchronise them so they could give nanosecond response. Would that not be great for huge spikes! cheers, Neville Michie On 17/02/2012, at 9:07 AM, Peter Monta wrote: Time is money... I wonder if long-distance neutrino links might be attractive to the financial community. The SNRs are currently way too low, but with aggressive engineering, a link through the Earth would shave off many, many milliseconds (even at not greater than the speed of light :-) ). The cost would be very high though. Cheers, Peter ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] nanoseconds in the news
There was a system in NJ with over 3000 ps2s in a supercomputer config. The financial industry's idea of high cost is a bit different than most. The price of your real time ticker feed from the exchanges is directly proportional to the associated network latency due to speed of light. Bob On Feb 16, 2012, at 18:30, Tom Knox act...@hotmail.com wrote: EndRun set up the system next door to the NYSE used by GS. I think EndRun has a white paper on their site describing the ultimate in insider trading systems. It has been the subject of a number of articles and a whistle blowers case. Some believe it was responsible for a 1000 point glitch several years ago. Thomas Knox From: namic...@gmail.com Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 09:20:07 +1100 To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] nanoseconds in the news Obviously no one is thinking big enough. A hyper-super computer on either side of the Atlantic could run a model of each of the stock markets which could be synchronised by frequent data transfer. The learning power of these models would be very great, and they could deliver a real-time estimate of the other markets that would be hundreds of milliseconds better that neutrinos. The long term veracity of these computers could not be doubted, the noise in short terms would be continually reduced. A system like GPS could be used to synchronise them so they could give nanosecond response. Would that not be great for huge spikes! cheers, Neville Michie On 17/02/2012, at 9:07 AM, Peter Monta wrote: Time is money... I wonder if long-distance neutrino links might be attractive to the financial community. The SNRs are currently way too low, but with aggressive engineering, a link through the Earth would shave off many, many milliseconds (even at not greater than the speed of light :-) ). The cost would be very high though. Cheers, Peter ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] FE-5680A firmware dump
El 07/02/2012 0:30, Elio Corbolante wrote: From: Steve .iteration69 at gmail.com I've been considering ripping the firmware from the mcu as well. I've not got beyond the consideration stages, but i have all the equipment here at work. When you say that the read option is not available. is this because the chip has protection fuses enabled? Id like to help with the disassembly if you can get the binary dump. Cheers. -- Mike McCauley mi...@open.com.au Open System Consultants Pty. Ltd 9 Bulbul Place Currumbin Waters QLD 4223 Australia http://www.open.com.au Phone +61 7 5598-7474 Fax +61 7 5598-7070 Radiator: the most portable, flexible and configurable RADIUS server anywhere. SQL, proxy, DBM, files, LDAP, NIS+, password, NT, Emerald, Platypus, Freeside, TACACS+, PAM, external, Active Directory, EAP, TLS, TTLS, PEAP, TNC, WiMAX, RSA, Vasco, Yubikey, MOTP, HOTP, TOTP, DIAMETER etc. Full source on Unix, Windows, MacOSX, Solaris, VMS, NetWare etc. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
[time-nuts] Fwd: FE-5680A Contact FEI
I have written to them on several occasions about 56 Sent via Gerald's iPad Begin forwarded message: From: Peter Gottlieb n...@verizon.net Date: 16 February 2012 10:58:10 AEDT To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] FE-5680A Contact FEI Reply-To: n...@verizon.net, Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com I haven't personally tried but others have reported they were somewhat less than cooperative. Peter On 2/15/2012 6:23 PM, Bill Riches wrote: Just curious, Has anyone on this list actually contacted FEI and enquired about a schematic or other info about our 5680 units? They are still being sold by them. 73, Bill Riches, WA2DVU Cape May, NJ ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1424 / Virus Database: 2112/4811 - Release Date: 02/15/12 ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. -- Message protected by MailGuard: e-mail anti-virus, anti-spam and content filtering.http://www.mailguard.com.au/mg ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Fwd: FE-5680A Contact FEI
Hmmm, Seems they dont realise that their lack of cooperation will lead, not to protecting their product, but rather to the massive, public reverse engineering of it? On Friday, February 17, 2012 05:43:49 PM Gerald Molenkamp wrote: I have written to them on several occasions about 56 Sent via Gerald's iPad Begin forwarded message: From: Peter Gottlieb n...@verizon.net Date: 16 February 2012 10:58:10 AEDT To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] FE-5680A Contact FEI Reply-To: n...@verizon.net, Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com I haven't personally tried but others have reported they were somewhat less than cooperative. Peter On 2/15/2012 6:23 PM, Bill Riches wrote: Just curious, Has anyone on this list actually contacted FEI and enquired about a schematic or other info about our 5680 units? They are still being sold by them. 73, Bill Riches, WA2DVU Cape May, NJ ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1424 / Virus Database: 2112/4811 - Release Date: 02/15/12 ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. -- Mike McCauley mi...@open.com.au Open System Consultants Pty. Ltd 9 Bulbul Place Currumbin Waters QLD 4223 Australia http://www.open.com.au Phone +61 7 5598-7474 Fax +61 7 5598-7070 Radiator: the most portable, flexible and configurable RADIUS server anywhere. SQL, proxy, DBM, files, LDAP, NIS+, password, NT, Emerald, Platypus, Freeside, TACACS+, PAM, external, Active Directory, EAP, TLS, TTLS, PEAP, TNC, WiMAX, RSA, Vasco, Yubikey, MOTP, HOTP, TOTP, DIAMETER etc. Full source on Unix, Windows, MacOSX, Solaris, VMS, NetWare etc. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
