Re: [time-nuts] Trimble recommends RG-59 Antenna Cable.

2012-04-30 Thread Robert Atkinson
Hi Ken, This is correct. Some other documents explain the rationale. Basically for long runs the loss caused by the mismatch is less than the higher loss per foot of 50R coax of a similar size. Even better than RG59 is the high performance cable used for cable TV and satellite installations.

Re: [time-nuts] Trimble recommends RG-59 Antenna Cable.

2012-04-30 Thread Hal Murray
kenkub...@hotmail.com said: Hi Time-Nuts guys, I was reading the Trimble Thunderbolt manual section 2.1.3 (Antenna Cable). Trimble recommends using RG-59 cable which is 75 ohm coax. Is this a typo or is this correct? I thought that the Trimble Thunderbolt would use a 50 ohm cable and

Re: [time-nuts] Wilkinson TDC

2012-04-30 Thread Bruce Griffiths
David wrote: On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 06:51:37 +1200, Bruce Griffiths bruce.griffi...@xtra.co.nz wrote: The circuit for the Tek 2440 is in the manual. However, it isnt that well executed. I like using the 2440 as an example because the design and theory are readily available online.

Re: [time-nuts] Antique Rb Standard - Thanks, Pictures, Parts Request, Question

2012-04-30 Thread Attila Kinali
On Sun, 29 Apr 2012 13:19:08 -0700 ed breya e...@telight.com wrote: If the Rb cell drifted enough (maybe if it was filled with water) to de-tune the mechanical cavity resonator, it wouldn't work at all. Only a small amount of the RF power in the cavity is coupled into the Rb gas. The

Re: [time-nuts] Trimble recommends RG-59 Antenna Cable.

2012-04-30 Thread bg
Hi Ken, Hi Time-Nuts guys, I was reading the Trimble Thunderbolt manual section 2.1.3 (Antenna Cable). Trimble recommends using RG-59 cable which is 75 ohm coax. Is this a typo or is this correct? I thought that the Trimble Thunderbolt would use a 50 ohm cable and antenna. Thankyou

Re: [time-nuts] Antique Rb Standard - Thanks, Pictures, Parts Request, Question

2012-04-30 Thread Magnus Danielson
On 04/30/2012 10:32 AM, Attila Kinali wrote: On Sun, 29 Apr 2012 13:19:08 -0700 ed breyae...@telight.com wrote: If the Rb cell drifted enough (maybe if it was filled with water) to de-tune the mechanical cavity resonator, it wouldn't work at all. Only a small amount of the RF power in the

Re: [time-nuts] Trimble recommends RG-59 Antenna Cable.

2012-04-30 Thread Bob Camp
Hi Low noise receiver inputs are often mismatched to optimize noise figure. Receiving antennas may / may not be well matched to a given impedance. That all makes the mismatch loss a bit of a random thing. Some of the early Trimble docs mention that they saw essentially no mismatch loss when

Re: [time-nuts] General Technology Corp model 304b

2012-04-30 Thread paul swed
Did download the manual and a good read. Thanks On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 12:12 AM, Don Latham d...@montana.com wrote: A first-class engineered unit will have a single point where the chassis and circuit grounds tie together, Sometimes it's a panel, where the i/o connectors are coaxial. I've

Re: [time-nuts] Trimble recommends RG-59 Antenna Cable.

2012-04-30 Thread paul swed
Its all been said above. Now I use zero loss ;-) 1/2 catv hardline 2 Ghz stuff. Regards Paul On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 7:33 AM, Bob Camp li...@rtty.us wrote: Hi Low noise receiver inputs are often mismatched to optimize noise figure. Receiving antennas may / may not be well matched to a given

[time-nuts] Sw for pm6680B

2012-04-30 Thread Pierre-François (f5bqp_pfm)
Hi the Gang, I just got not cheap but for a quite reasonnable price a legacy Fluke PM6680B counter. This toy seems to be very interesting to play with, I already have a 5370B but this new toy I got seems to be more fancy to play with, have to be confirmed. I know there is a software from

[time-nuts] Message for Robert Berg

2012-04-30 Thread David C. Partridge
As it is not clear to me that Robert has received my emails, I am sending this via the list. My apologies for the bandwidth :/ Robert, Yes I have the Tektronix 7T11 to 7T11A conversion kits available, and you may pay using Paypal to this email. Please acknowledge Thanks David Partridge

Re: [time-nuts] Sw for pm6680B

2012-04-30 Thread bg
Hi, Hi the Gang, I just got not cheap but for a quite reasonnable price a legacy Fluke PM6680B counter. This toy seems to be very interesting to play with, I already have a 5370B but this new toy I got seems to be more fancy to play with, have to be confirmed. I know there is a software

Re: [time-nuts] Sw for pm6680B

2012-04-30 Thread GandalfG8
Hi Pierre-Francois Assuming yours is the Ebay item I think it is, I was wondering who bought that and see there's another due to finish in a couple of hours or so:-) The Fluke PM6680B is a rebadged Pendulum CNT-80, Pendulum now being part of Spectracom. Both Fluke and Tektronix, and

Re: [time-nuts] Sw for pm6680B

2012-04-30 Thread Pierre-François (f5bqp_pfm)
Hi Björn, Thank you very much for this information, I'm glad to see that John' software supports this Fluke PM6680 I'll test it right away. All the bests and thanks again. pf, F5BQP Le 30/04/2012 16:38, b...@lysator.liu.se a écrit : Hi, Hi the Gang, I just got not cheap but for a quite

Re: [time-nuts] Sw for pm6680B

2012-04-30 Thread Magnus Danielson
Hi Pierre-Francois, On 04/30/2012 04:57 PM, gandal...@aol.com wrote: Hi Pierre-Francois Assuming yours is the Ebay item I think it is, I was wondering who bought that and see there's another due to finish in a couple of hours or so:-) The Fluke PM6680B is a rebadged Pendulum CNT-80,

Re: [time-nuts] General Technology Corp model 304b

2012-04-30 Thread Ed Palmer
My unit has many connections between chassis and circuit grounds, most of which look intentional. There are connections at the 1 MHz and 100 KHz BNC outputs (the 5 MHz output is transformer coupled). There's also a connection at an SMC connector from the multiplier to the SRD final

Re: [time-nuts] Trimble recommends RG-59 Antenna Cable.

2012-04-30 Thread Don Latham
My TrueTime gps rcvr uses rg-59 as well. Don Robert Atkinson Hi Ken, This is correct. Some other documents explain the rationale. Basically for long runs the loss caused by the mismatch is less than the higher loss per foot of 50R coax of a similar size. Even better than RG59 is the high

Re: [time-nuts] GPS, USGS Early Earthquake Warning

2012-04-30 Thread Hal Murray
t...@leapsecond.com said: Related to that, are there any seismometer experts on the list? I've always wondered why they don't augment the extremely sensitive detectors with less sensitive detectors? Of course a really good detector will overload; so just co-locate cheap detectors that are 40

Re: [time-nuts] Trimble recommends RG-59 Antenna Cable.

2012-04-30 Thread Azelio Boriani
Yes, I use the regular satellite TV cable: low loss, easy to find and cheap. On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 8:22 PM, Don Latham d...@montana.com wrote: My TrueTime gps rcvr uses rg-59 as well. Don Robert Atkinson Hi Ken, This is correct. Some other documents explain the rationale. Basically

Re: [time-nuts] Trimble recommends RG-59 Antenna Cable.

2012-04-30 Thread SAIDJACK
Make sure to buy the quadrouple shielded 75 Ohms RG-6 cable from Home Depot etc, it's much better than the standard single or double shielded RG-6 and works wonders for GPS signals, and it's quite inexpensive. Impedance mismatch loss can be neglected, and long cable runs can be made. bye,

Re: [time-nuts] GPS, USGS Early Earthquake Warning

2012-04-30 Thread Brooke Clarke
Hi Hal: Thanks very much for that link. I have a sensor on order. http://www.prc68.com/I/Seismometer.shtml#QCN Have Fun, Brooke Clarke http://www.PRC68.com http://www.end2partygovernment.com/Clarke4Congress.html Hal Murray wrote: t...@leapsecond.com said: Related to that, are there any

[time-nuts] An interesting freq counter

2012-04-30 Thread Mark Sims
With a rather freaky display that I have never seen: http://www.electricstuff.co.uk/venner.html ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to

Re: [time-nuts] An interesting freq counter

2012-04-30 Thread Peter Gottlieb
Reminds me of the IEE projected displays. On 04/30/12, Mark Simshol...@hotmail.com wrote: With a rather freaky display that I have never seen: [1]http://www.electricstuff.co.uk/venner.html ___ time-nuts mailing list --

Re: [time-nuts] An interesting freq counter

2012-04-30 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message blu125-w7e5a76c835c5c731156ddce...@phx.gbl, Mark Sims writes: With a rather freaky display that I have never seen: http://www.electricstuff.co.uk/venner.html Looks like IEE One Plane Readout, wonderful technology. I have four such digits as a

Re: [time-nuts] Trimble recommends RG-59 Antenna Cable.

2012-04-30 Thread Eric Lemmon
Ken, I believe that the manual also states that RG-59 has lower loss than RG-58, but I would use RG-6 for even lower loss. Neither the antenna nor the Thunderbolt cares much about the cable impedance. 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com

Re: [time-nuts] An interesting freq counter

2012-04-30 Thread Cliff Sojourner
that is awesome! with Transistorized Binary Unit and up to 1.1 megacycles. wow! On 2012-04-30 15:05, Mark Sims wrote: With a rather freaky display that I have never seen: http://www.electricstuff.co.uk/venner.html