Re: [time-nuts] I am looking for the email address for David Partridge

2012-07-25 Thread Adrian
david.partri...@perdrix.co.uk more about the divider: http://www.perdrix.co.uk/FrequencyDivider/index.html Regards, Adrian Ken Kubick schrieb: Hi time-nuts guys, I am looking for the email address for David Partridge. I want to find out more information on the 'time-nuts' frequency divider

[time-nuts] HP 58503B GPS Time Reference

2012-07-25 Thread nde
My trusted 58503B displays strange values, this suddenly started a couple of weeks ago. TI values used to be within +- 50ns, now the monitoring software shows values going between +- 500 ns! What could be the reason for this? I replaced the internal UT+ GPS receiver, same results. Any

Re: [time-nuts] I am looking for the email address for David Partridge

2012-07-25 Thread David C. Partridge
david.partri...@perdrix.co.uk See also www.perdrix.co.uk where you'll find a write up on the divider. Sorry to say, there are no made up boards left. The minimum order that's economic is for 100 made up boards, so I need a lot of interest to justify another batch. I have a very few

Re: [time-nuts] Looking for info on an old WWVB receiver

2012-07-25 Thread J. Forster
Specific Products made a whole line of similar receivers, some tube and some solid state. I've got a WWV unit and the long wire antenna kit for it. Try BAMA, or other boatanchor sites. -John = I recently picked up an interesting early 1970s vintage WWVB receiver, Model 630,

Re: [time-nuts] HP 58503B GPS Time Reference

2012-07-25 Thread Azelio Boriani
Have you another GPSDO with a PPS output? If not then try to connect the PPS output of the UT+ and the 58503 PPS output to a dual trace 'scope with persistence, trig on the UT+ and see the total span of the 58503 PPS. On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 10:59 AM, nde n...@hispeed.ch wrote: My trusted

Re: [time-nuts] What's the easiest way to divide by 10 for Thunderboltreference output?

2012-07-25 Thread Bob Camp
Hi Rather than adapt the TBolt, why not adapt the 9908? 10 MHz going into everything is a lot easier to keep track of than 1 MHz here and 10 MHz everywhere else. The how to divide question is still the same, the location of the divider changes... Bob -Original Message- From:

[time-nuts] 5MHz ocxo

2012-07-25 Thread Paul Flinders
I've finally had chance to pull my Rapco 1804M GPS conditioned oscillator apart to try to debug it. To recap I bought this a few months ago from an ebay vendor. It was fine at first (for a few hours) although I needed a better antenna or better site for the one I have but the second chance I

Re: [time-nuts] 5MHz ocxo

2012-07-25 Thread Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R
How about a 10 MHz OCXO and a divide by two chip? Maybe an op-amp to change and/or invert the control voltage? On 07/25/2012 02:05 PM, Paul Flinders wrote: I've finally had chance to pull my Rapco 1804M GPS conditioned oscillator apart to try to debug it. To recap I bought this a few

Re: [time-nuts] 5MHz ocxo

2012-07-25 Thread Tom Miller
Can you post up a few pictures of the oscillator? There have been people that have opened these up and repaired them. If you feel not up to it, why not see if someone on this group can help. Repairing it will eliminate a lot of searching. Tom - Original Message - From: Paul

Re: [time-nuts] 5MHz ocxo

2012-07-25 Thread Mark Spencer
This approach could also facilitate using a higher perfromance OCXO. This is after all time nuts (: I'm surprised to hear how few 5 Mhz OCXO's are avaliable on the bay right now. Earlier this year I picked up a nice Wenzel 5 Mhz OCXO for $100.00 --- On Wed, 7/25/12, Chuck Forsberg

Re: [time-nuts] 5MHz ocxo

2012-07-25 Thread Tom Miller
I have an original that I could send to Dave at Artek for scanning. I don't see it on his site. I don't know what he will charge but usually it's very reasonable. Regards, Tom - Original Message - From: Tom Miller tmil...@skylinenet.net To: Discussion of precise time and frequency

Re: [time-nuts] 5MHz ocxo

2012-07-25 Thread Paul Flinders
On 25/07/12 22:27, Tom Miller wrote: Can you post up a few pictures of the oscillator? There have been people that have opened these up and repaired them. If you feel not up to it, why not see if someone on this group can help. Repairing it will eliminate a lot of searching. Pictures at

Re: [time-nuts] 5MHz ocxo

2012-07-25 Thread Paul Flinders
On 25/07/12 22:18, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R wrote: How about a 10 MHz OCXO and a divide by two chip? Maybe an op-amp to change and/or invert the control voltage? Yes I've thought about that. In fact it might be the better way to go as 10MHz output would definitely be more useful. I

Re: [time-nuts] 5MHz ocxo

2012-07-25 Thread Doug Ronald
And should you decide to upgrade, I have two Austron 1250A standards, (which contain a 5 MHz OCXO), unused in original boxes, with service manual, for sale at just $500 each. The voltage control is +/- 5 VDC. I'm avoiding the fleabag site unless necessary... -Doug Ronald AE6SY -Original

Re: [time-nuts] 5MHz ocxo

2012-07-25 Thread Bob Camp
Hi That's just a basic solder sealed package. It should be pretty easy to pop open. You'll use up a bit of solder wick doing it… Bob On Jul 25, 2012, at 6:03 PM, Paul Flinders wrote: On 25/07/12 22:18, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R wrote: How about a 10 MHz OCXO and a divide by two chip?

Re: [time-nuts] 5MHz ocxo

2012-07-25 Thread Paul Flinders
On 25/07/12 22:49, Mark Spencer wrote: This approach could also facilitate using a higher perfromance OCXO. This is after all time nuts (: I'm surprised to hear how few 5 Mhz OCXO's are avaliable on the bay right now. Earlier this year I picked up a nice Wenzel 5 Mhz OCXO for$100.00 Do

Re: [time-nuts] 5MHz ocxo

2012-07-25 Thread Paul Flinders
On 25/07/12 23:10, Bob Camp wrote: Hi That's just a basic solder sealed package. It should be pretty easy to pop open. You'll use up a bit of solder wick doing it… If there's anyone in the UK who has experience with these let me know if you're willing to have a go. If not I suppose I

Re: [time-nuts] 5MHz ocxo

2012-07-25 Thread Bob Camp
Hi There are a bunch of Morion OCXO's on eBay. You may or may not get a good one, but the price is right. Most of them are significantly better than what you have now. Bob On Jul 25, 2012, at 6:14 PM, Paul Flinders wrote: On 25/07/12 22:49, Mark Spencer wrote: This approach could also

Re: [time-nuts] 5MHz ocxo

2012-07-25 Thread Paul Flinders
On 25/07/12 23:19, Bob Camp wrote: Hi There are a bunch of Morion OCXO's on eBay. You may or may not get a good one, but the price is right. Most of them are significantly better than what you have now. I suppose that the argument is that the GPS keeps the frequency to much tighter limits

Re: [time-nuts] 5MHz ocxo

2012-07-25 Thread Mark Spencer
Yep... If you are prepared to go with a 10 Mhz OCXO and want to keep the costs down the Morion units are worth looking at. I picked up two of them earlier this year. I was pleasantly surprised at the performance. I don't recall the spec's off hand but at least one of the vendors has an

Re: [time-nuts] 5MHz ocxo

2012-07-25 Thread Paul Flinders
On 25/07/12 23:27, Mark Spencer wrote: Yep... If you are prepared to go with a 10 Mhz OCXO and want to keep the costs down the Morion units are worth looking at. I picked up two of them earlier this year. I was pleasantly surprised at the performance. I don't recall the spec's off hand

Re: [time-nuts] 5MHz ocxo

2012-07-25 Thread Tom Miller
Make up an adapter board with the divide by two under the Morion oscillator. Make the correct pin out on the board. Those units are very nice for the money. You might get a bad one though. They have an issue with a SMT capacitor on many of them. But again, many have opened them up for repair.

Re: [time-nuts] 5MHz ocxo

2012-07-25 Thread Ed Palmer
Take another look at flea bay. If you search for 5 mhz oscillator and weed out the trash there are a few decent looking units. As for repairing the original, go for it. You can't make it any worse. I would use a utility knife to scrape away as much solder as possible but don't use the

[time-nuts] 5MHz ocxo- Opening Solder sealed cans

2012-07-25 Thread Demian Martin
Bob: Perhaps you can describe how to do this. I can't see a way that would not make a huge mess (big torch) or not ever get there (big soldering iron). I would really like to be able to get inside of some of these without making them all into trash. Demian

Re: [time-nuts] 5MHz ocxo- Opening Solder sealed cans

2012-07-25 Thread Richard W. Solomon
How about using a commercial type Hot Plate. I have one that can be set to temp. I use it for cleaning SMD devices off PC boards. 73, Dick, W1KSZ -Original Message- From: Demian Martin demian...@yahoo.com Sent: Jul 25, 2012 3:47 PM To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: [time-nuts] 5MHz

Re: [time-nuts] 5MHz ocxo- Opening Solder sealed cans

2012-07-25 Thread Tom Miller
You might try to use some chip-quik alloy. It greatly lowers the melting point of the solder. http://www.chipquikinc.com/ Their flux is very good also. - Original Message - From: Richard W. Solomon w1...@earthlink.net To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement

Re: [time-nuts] HP 58503A Dim Display Replacement

2012-07-25 Thread Stan
Hi Jeff, The VFD module is identical to the ones used in the 53131A and 53132A counters. It is a part of the A2 input assembly in the counters (p/n 53131-60002). The good news is that Agilent still has 7 new and tested units in stock. The bad news is that the list price is $756.00. Even though

Re: [time-nuts] 5MHz ocxo

2012-07-25 Thread Ron Ward
Hi: If you want to de-solder the case, I have had success taking some #12 or #14 bare copper wire ( standard solid conductor house-wiring stripped of the PVC insulation ) and wrapping it tightly around the base just above the soldered junction. The wire is installed in my soldering gun just like a

Re: [time-nuts] HP 58503A Dim Display Replacement

2012-07-25 Thread Tom Knox
Hi; If you can find a part number for the VFD only you may be able to purchase them, but you would need a part number. In the recent past have purchased 3458A VFD displays alone with the part number for about $100ea , but I believe if you ask parts ID they will tell you that 3458A VFD are not

Re: [time-nuts] 5MHz ocxo

2012-07-25 Thread Ed Palmer
I haven't heard of that trick before, but it sounds interesting. What's the wattage of your soldering gun? Ed On 7/25/2012 6:41 PM, Ron Ward wrote: Hi: If you want to de-solder the case, I have had success taking some #12 or #14 bare copper wire ( standard solid conductor house-wiring