[time-nuts] Lamp for FRK Rubidium Needed
Hi, Does anyone have a good Rb lamp available for an Efratom FRK? Doug K6JEY (drzarko...@yahoo.com) ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Lamp for FRK Rubidium Needed
Just in case you weren't aware, bad lamps can often be resurrected by the judicious application of heat. The idea is to heat the bulb enough to evaporate all of the Rb that is deposited on the glass (making it black), and then let the lamp cool. The Rb will again condense out on the glass, but this time it will condense out where the lamp is coolest, and will spare the rest of the bulb, allowing the light to get out. -Chuck Harris Doug Millar wrote: Hi, Does anyone have a good Rb lamp available for an Efratom FRK? Doug K6JEY (drzarko...@yahoo.com) ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] HP E3610A Power supply
Exactly lets face it someone at Gmail screwed up or there was a serious attack. I also noticed my inbox was pretty thin. Now this morning its more normal. The issue has run longer then a few days as this is the tread that I started to notice something funny on. Regards Paul WB8TSL On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 10:54 PM, Didier Juges shali...@gmail.com wrote: Tom, I just started getting messages again today after almost a week of getting nothing. This account is on gmail No idea what happened... Didier KO4BB On June 18, 2014 10:42:25 PM CDT, Tom Van Baak t...@leapsecond.com wrote: Paul, The E3610A posting was a good one. This explains why some high-end oscillator sockets have a fuse, series diode, and zener shunt - protects the expensive oscillator from both reverse- and over-voltage. I'll look into the spam issue. If there's more than a couple contact me off-list and we'll debug it. We've been having issues with aol, yahoo, comcast postings recently. Might be related. When in doubt, you can always read messages at: http://www.febo.com/pipermail/time-nuts/ Sometimes it's actually more convenient to read them there by author or thread than by inbox. /tvb - Original Message - From: paul swed paulsw...@gmail.com To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2014 7:41 PM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] HP E3610A Power supply Bert just finding out that google mail is treating your emails as spam! Not sure if the message appears but as you can see it questions who you are. I found numbers of missing emails a few minutes ago. Regards Paul WB8TSL On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 7:59 AM, ewkeh...@aol.com wrote: This may be off topic but I did check with Tom and many time nuts may have HP E3610A power supplies on their bench and mine smoked a ublox GPS so that makes it topic related.. The reference section has some 1 uF 50V capacitors and in my unit one shorted. The reference section has fuses on the board but they did not open. The 7912 overheated and shorted out, traces are discolored the op amp shows signs of overheating and burned out. The result was the output went to 30V+ and next morning the ublox chip plastic showed where the chip smoked. As a minimum I recommend replacing the 1 uF capacitors with new quality caps, I also ordered 15 V 5 W zeners and 0.5 A 20 mm glass fuses. Bert Kehren ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. -- Sent from my Motorola Droid Razr HD 4G LTE wireless tracker while I do other things. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] HP E3610A Power supply
On Fri, Jun 20, 2014 at 9:04 AM, paul swed paulsw...@gmail.com wrote: someone at Gmail screwed up or there was a serious attack. https://help.yahoo.com/kb/email-service-providers-send-yahoo-addresses-sln24016.html ditto AOL This is what Yahoo and AOL want to happen. If you don't like their tactics move off AOL/Yahoo and/or encourage your correspondents to do so. The burden shouldn't be on the list owners. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Lamp for FRK Rubidium Needed
Chuck is correct I have done this trick on FRS units. The glass clears and the lamp re-ignites and continues to work for a long time. Actually it hasn't failed and this must be 2 years now. Regards Paul WB8TSL On Fri, Jun 20, 2014 at 8:34 AM, Chuck Harris cfhar...@erols.com wrote: Just in case you weren't aware, bad lamps can often be resurrected by the judicious application of heat. The idea is to heat the bulb enough to evaporate all of the Rb that is deposited on the glass (making it black), and then let the lamp cool. The Rb will again condense out on the glass, but this time it will condense out where the lamp is coolest, and will spare the rest of the bulb, allowing the light to get out. -Chuck Harris Doug Millar wrote: Hi, Does anyone have a good Rb lamp available for an Efratom FRK? Doug K6JEY (drzarko...@yahoo.com) ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/ mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/ mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] FASTRAX GPS
Hi Ernie, Jason, (also Hal, Chris), I'm able to get NMEA and 1PPS out of the Fastrax/iTrax130 board now. Before I sink any more time into this project, have any of you made 1PPS measurements? Compared to ublox, using the same antenna, these units take tens of minutes or even hours to lock. And they have a bad habit of being close to UTC for a few hours but then gradually wandering off by tens or hundreds of microseconds. A power cycle puts them back on track (aligned with UTC), so it would seem to be a firmware issue rather than antenna or reception. A similar thing happens on three different boards I have evaluated over the past two weeks. Now, when they are working right, the 1PPS has an RMS deviation of around 20 ns, which I've come to expect as typical for cheap GPS/1PPS receivers these days. But the long lock times and unexplained 1PPS drift make them unreliable for GPSDO or serious timing work, even at $12 each. It might be me, so I'm asking if you've seen anything similar. The binary command set looks tempting, but I usually don't play with that until the unit can be trusted to give reliable NMEA and 1PPS output. Unfinished page: http://leapsecond.com/pages/itrax/ /tvb - Original Message - From: Ernie Peres erniepe...@aol.com To: time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2014 4:11 AM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] FASTRAX GPS Hi Jason, I figured out a different pin assignments hold the PCB so that the SMA antenna connector is looking to right and under the PCB. open- 1 2- Ant powerpresently connected to pin nbr 4 TX- 3 4- Main power +3 volt RX- 5 6- 1PPS open- 7 8- Grnd power -3 Volt the unit takes about 60mA @ 3,0 volt and comes-up in NMEA mode.. 9600 Baud. I use the FASTRAX_WORKBENCH_522 software. I wonder if anybody has other pin arrangement/connection. The 2 open pins is UNK and also not sure if pin nbr 4 is the main power or perhaps the pin nbr 2..?? Rgds Ernie. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] FE5680 GPS Disciplined Controller
First getting 1 E-13 per second accuracy is not possible with a FE5680 because of tuning steps of 6.8 E-13. Even 1 E-12 may not be possible. Bert, I'm pretty sure the short-term noise of Rb standards like FE5680 is significantly greater than the DAC resolution in your case. See the ADEV plot at http://www.ke5fx.com/rb.htm for example. Therefore -- all you have to do is dither the DAC to achieve whatever fractional frequency or phase resolution you want. You can change the DDS tuning words almost as many times per minute or per second as you wish to achieve the desired average accuracy. Don't let the LSB spec limit you. Remember all our discussions about frequency and phase tuning words on your AD9913 project (www.leapsecond.com/pages/ad9913/). /tvb ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Lamp for FRK Rubidium Needed
paul swed paulswedb@... writes: Chuck is correct I have done this trick on FRS units. The glass clears and the lamp re-ignites and continues to work for a long time. Actually it hasn't failed and this must be 2 years now. Regards Paul WB8TSL On Fri, Jun 20, 2014 at 8:34 AM, Chuck Harris cfharris@... wrote: Just in case you weren't aware, bad lamps can often be resurrected by the judicious application of heat. The idea is to heat the bulb enough to evaporate all of the Rb that is deposited on the glass (making it black), and then let the lamp cool. The Rb will again condense out on the glass, but this time it will condense out where the lamp is coolest, and will spare the rest of the bulb, allowing the light to get out. -Chuck Harris Chuck and Paul Do you have any more specific information on how to do this? I also have an FRK that has a lamp that is failing to run consistantly, and would like to try this to resurrect it. I am afraid of doing more harm than good without some good guidance. regards peter G0RSQ ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Lamp for FRK Rubidium Needed
OK so the scientific method. NOT. The FRKs are nice in that you can get to the pellet pretty easily from the posts I have seen on time-nuts. The FRS you have to break a glass cover. Much like a very thin microscope cover slide. No way to fix that and I am sure it matters only it doesn't seem to. Heat the bulb with a heat gun it will get pretty hot so you need something to hold the bulb. Couple of things will happen. The black stuff will disapear very slowly Or most likely a blob will form at the bottom or low spot. This blob needs to be heated and gently rolled back just by tilting it in the direction you want it to go in. You want it away from the emission end of the buld. As you heat it will slowly vaporize so you want to gently do this until its gone. Do not go red hot on anything you will get a feel. Peter I actually suspect you will come back with far better guidance then I have given here. Regards Paul WB8TSL On Fri, Jun 20, 2014 at 2:46 PM, Peter pe...@g0rsq.co.uk wrote: paul swed paulswedb@... writes: Chuck is correct I have done this trick on FRS units. The glass clears and the lamp re-ignites and continues to work for a long time. Actually it hasn't failed and this must be 2 years now. Regards Paul WB8TSL On Fri, Jun 20, 2014 at 8:34 AM, Chuck Harris cfharris@... wrote: Just in case you weren't aware, bad lamps can often be resurrected by the judicious application of heat. The idea is to heat the bulb enough to evaporate all of the Rb that is deposited on the glass (making it black), and then let the lamp cool. The Rb will again condense out on the glass, but this time it will condense out where the lamp is coolest, and will spare the rest of the bulb, allowing the light to get out. -Chuck Harris Chuck and Paul Do you have any more specific information on how to do this? I also have an FRK that has a lamp that is failing to run consistantly, and would like to try this to resurrect it. I am afraid of doing more harm than good without some good guidance. regards peter G0RSQ ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
[time-nuts] dsPICs and GPSDOs
Once I got my TIC going, I suppose it was inevitable that I build a GPSDO with a dsPIC33. I have a few dsPIC specific questions for anyone who designs with them. 1. VCAP. The datasheet says that it should be a surface mount device. I had hoped to avoid those. Can I get away with a 10uf tantalum placed at .1 from the pin? I'm using a 28-pin DIP dsPIC, which will probably be socketed. 2. The datasheet suggests an inductor between AVDD and VDD. Given that I'll only be reading the ADC twice a second (PPS and temps), can I just use the straight wire that I have already penned in? I'm starting to run out of board space. As to why I'm using a dsPIC: the one I chose has a number of features that suit me, such as 2 UARTs, SPI, buffered ADC, (audio) DAC, and especially relocatable pins. To be honest, I don't know whether this will result in a general purpose GPSDO engine (with sawtooth correction) or a smoke machine, but I'm hoping for the best. I'll try to resist the temptation to make more posts until I have a completed project. Bob - AE6RV ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] FE5680 GPS Disciplined Controller
Question: Where is the source code for this project? I hunted through this thread but I was not able to find a link. Also, that service linked to below is the best price I've seen. 99 cents each. On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 11:06 PM, David Hopkins dav...@bigpond.net.au wrote: The service is excellent. It usually takes about 4 days to manufacture and they are then shipped by airmail. Have a look at :- http://imall.iteadstudio.com/ open-pcb/pcb-prototyping.html -- Chris Albertson Redondo Beach, California ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
[time-nuts] Sad news Ulrich Bangert
Dear group, unfortunately I have to deliver the sad news that Ulrich Bangert, DF6JB passed away on 11/06, aged 59. Best regards, Hartmut DL1YDD ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Sad news Ulrich Bangert
Wow, that's a shock. He was such a nice guy, always supporting requests for changes etc. Very sad. He was quite young as well! Our condolences to his wife and family. Said In a message dated 6/20/2014 13:58:36 Pacific Daylight Time, timen...@paesler.de writes: Dear group, unfortunately I have to deliver the sad news that Ulrich Bangert, DF6JB passed away on 11/06, aged 59. Best regards, Hartmut DL1YDD ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Sad news Ulrich Bangert
Hartmut, I did not know this and thank you for sharing. I have read many of his articles and posts, he had a global reach. Regards Paul WB8TSL On Fri, Jun 20, 2014 at 4:52 PM, Hartmut Paesler timen...@paesler.de wrote: Dear group, unfortunately I have to deliver the sad news that Ulrich Bangert, DF6JB passed away on 11/06, aged 59. Best regards, Hartmut DL1YDD ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Sad news Ulrich Bangert
Hi: That's unfortunate, he made a large contribution to Time Nuts and by extension to many. Because I've been studying diet and nutrition for the past few months can someone tell me why he died? I believe that the low fat diet that the U.S. has promoted and which has spread world wide is responsible for the premature deaths of millions of people. Have Fun, Brooke Clarke http://www.PRC68.com http://www.end2partygovernment.com/2012Issues.html http://www.prc68.com/I/DietNutrition.html Hartmut Paesler wrote: Dear group, unfortunately I have to deliver the sad news that Ulrich Bangert, DF6JB passed away on 11/06, aged 59. Best regards, Hartmut DL1YDD ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Lamp for FRK Rubidium Needed
Paul's description is spot on. A few of things to note: 1) The melting point of Rb is 39C (100F), so it doesn't take a lot of heat to melt it... but it needs to evaporate, which takes a little more. Basically, once it melts, the amount of Rb that can be made a gas depends on the pressure in the bulb, and the temperature. Once you reach the vapor pressure of Rb for the given temperature you can't evaporate any more. 2) What you are trying to do is clear all of the excess Rb that has plated out on the glass and move it as a metal ball to somewhere it won't get in the way of the light getting to the filter cell, and the detector. 3) I suspect the bulb is pyrex, but I am not sure of that, I would suggest treating it like it wasn't. Don't heat it quickly, and don't let it cool quickly. You don't need to get anywhere near red heat. To support the bulb, make yourself a loop of steel wire that you can rest the bulb onto. What you want is a loop shaped like a lollipop. Clamp the stem of the wire loop in a vise, or something that will hold it. Don't work far above the ground, and it would be a good idea to have a soft landing below the bulb just in case... (If you had 50 bulbs I would bet that the little bugger would bounce off of a cement floor without harm... But you have only one, so count on it shattering...) Once the bulb is clear, you are done. The real truth is once it is clearer than it was, it is going to work better than it did... When it is all the way clear, it is a good as it was when it was new, and should last as long as a new bulb would have. -Chuck Harris Peter wrote: paul swed paulswedb@... writes: Chuck is correct I have done this trick on FRS units. The glass clears and the lamp re-ignites and continues to work for a long time. Actually it hasn't failed and this must be 2 years now. Regards Paul WB8TSL ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Sad news Ulrich Bangert
Hi Hartmut, Thanks for letting us know. Ulrich has been on this mailing list since the early days. He is one of several with his own web site (www.ulrich-bangert.de) and freely shared his designs, articles, and software tools with the world. He was a quality contributor to the list, and many of us also have lots of private emails from him over the years. As Said already mentioned, please pass along condolences to his loved ones, on behalf of the group. Thanks, /tvb - Original Message - From: Hartmut Paesler timen...@paesler.de To: time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Friday, June 20, 2014 1:52 PM Subject: [time-nuts] Sad news Ulrich Bangert Dear group, unfortunately I have to deliver the sad news that Ulrich Bangert, DF6JB passed away on 11/06, aged 59. Best regards, Hartmut DL1YDD ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
[time-nuts] FE5680 GPS Disciplined Controller
Maybe... maybe not. Some of the Rb's store the tuning word in the processor EEPROM and those have a rather limited number of write cycles. You can change the DDS tuning words almost as many times per minute or per second as you wish to achieve the desired average accuracy. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Sad news Ulrich Bangert
This is indeed terrible to hear. Ulrich's free software contributions were not only valuable in my work but useful to a lot of other people with test gear. He was also one of my first customers, putting a lot of faith in a guy he'd never met who was selling PN analyzers out of his basement in Seattle. I'm sorry we never had the chance to get together in person. He was certainly one of the good guys! -- john, KE5FX Miles Design LLC -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Tom Van Baak Sent: Friday, June 20, 2014 3:13 PM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Cc: Hartmut Paesler Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Sad news Ulrich Bangert Hi Hartmut, Thanks for letting us know. Ulrich has been on this mailing list since the early days... ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] FE5680 GPS Disciplined Controller
I think the user FE5680 manual says you can change the tuning word as much as you like. But changing the EEPROM is different, that is used on power up. In a GPSDO you would likely want to send a command over the serial interface when you need to make a change but you would only write to the EEPROM as a special case, maybe if you wanted to place the Rb in a none GPS mode so it could be portable. I think you would store the power-on defaults inside the GPSDO controller's uP. Anyways changing the running word and writing it to memory are different. BTW I made a temperature controller for mine. The unit is bolted to a large heat sink and placed in a box with a fan. The fan speed is controlled by the heat sink temperature. So it is an ovenized box that is powered by waste heat. My problem is finding a decent temperer sensor. I've tried several and they are noisy. This version is simple. The parts list is just three tab voltage regulators, a power darlinton (for the fan motor) and an 8-pin AVR chip. The AVR uses one analog input to sense temperer and one analog output to control the fan speed.The software is very simple. Once I find a good temperature sensors I want to also measure the ambient air temperature and control the fan based on the delta between the heat sink and ambient. On Fri, Jun 20, 2014 at 5:11 PM, Mark Sims hol...@hotmail.com wrote: Maybe... maybe not. Some of the Rb's store the tuning word in the processor EEPROM and those have a rather limited number of write cycles. You can change the DDS tuning words almost as many times per minute or per second as you wish to achieve the desired average accuracy. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. -- Chris Albertson Redondo Beach, California ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] FE5680 GPS Disciplined Controller
I can't claim it's 100%, but all the ones I've seen that had the FEI logo and the address silk-screened onto the metal case and a single adhesive label with the serial number have been the old ones. The new units have two adhesive labels and no screen printing. Note that this only seems to work for the FE-5680A - I have also seen a FE-5680B that had the new type electronics and was screen printed. Has anyone on the list got one that doesn't follow this rule? Regards, Pete On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 4:59 PM, Charles Steinmetz csteinm...@yandex.com wrote: Bill wrote: There are two types of FE5680's. The older style used an ANALOG approach to controlling the Rb. The newer version changed the circuitry so that frequency control was done with a DDS device by means of sending a digital word to the DDS and thus changes frequency. The digital version does not permit any ANALOG control. Instructions for determining which version one has would make it easier for potential users to decide if they want a controller. Preferably, without opening it up or turning it on, if that is possible. Can you tell by the label, for example? Best regards, Charles ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/ mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Sad news Ulrich Bangert
In message 53a49f22.5060...@paesler.de, Hartmut Paesler writes: unfortunately I have to deliver the sad news that Ulrich Bangert, DF6JB passed away on 11/06, aged 59. He made the world a better place. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 p...@freebsd.org | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
