Re: [time-nuts] Setting Windows XP clock.

2014-07-13 Thread Esa Heikkinen
Hi! At first, Windows XP supports SNTP protocol (so it can be synchronized with NTP server, but not with millisecond grade accuracy) and it uses time.windows.com as default server. Maybe Microsoft is closed that server or something, if it doesn't work anymore. However it's easy to change the

Re: [time-nuts] WWVB remod instant cheap clock receiver

2014-07-13 Thread paul swed
I figured there were other modules. Glad to see wallymart has them also. Over payed? The costyco comes in a multi color display with temp and humidity. But then again its the module after all. How big is the loopstick and did you confirm the wiring? Regards Paul. WB8TSL On Sun, Jul 13, 2014 at

[time-nuts] Optical Distribution of 1PPS and IRIG

2014-07-13 Thread Martin A Flynn
I am working on a project where I need to transfer 1PPS approximately 120 meters between buildings.I cam borrow a pair of 62.5 fibers from IT/telco to do so. Playing cost / performance against one another, I am looking for a solution somewhere in the middle that does not requires SM-28

Re: [time-nuts] Setting Windows XP clock.

2014-07-13 Thread Chris Albertson
I just checked. I have an actually running XP system that runs in a VMWare virtual environment on my iMac. Here is what I see 1) It is set to use an NTP server called time.windows.com to set the clock. 2) It is using SNTP not NTP to set the clock 3) The above is working as well as it has ever

Re: [time-nuts] Optical Distribution of 1PPS and IRIG

2014-07-13 Thread Martin A Flynn
Hi Chris, Timing source is a SyncServer 200 with the rubidium option.The inter-building fiber is already budgeted as part of the IT and telecom portion of the project. It adds no cost to the project to use it other then the optical transceivers. That is where i need help - selecting

Re: [time-nuts] Optical Distribution of 1PPS and IRIG

2014-07-13 Thread Bob Camp
Hi Is $1K to much for the budget or is $200K? Are you after microseconds, nanoseconds, or picoseconds? Depending on what you are after, the range of “in the middle of the pack” moves around quite a bit. Bob On Jul 13, 2014, at 1:39 PM, Martin A Flynn mafl...@theflynn.org wrote: Hi Chris,

Re: [time-nuts] Optical Distribution of 1PPS and IRIG

2014-07-13 Thread Chris Albertson
What accuracy requirements do you have. This could be easy or impossible. Don't spend to much money distributing 1PPS because you can have it any place you want for the cost of a GPS receiver. A second GPS receiver is likely cheaper than the cost of 120 meters of cable plus the cable drivers

Re: [time-nuts] Setting Windows XP clock.

2014-07-13 Thread DaveH
A good workaround is to set up a local area network. Have a bridge machine connected to the internet and then have a second network port and use that to connect your XP boxes. I have two projects which require XP and this is what I use - private networks.

Re: [time-nuts] Optical Distribution of 1PPS and IRIG

2014-07-13 Thread Chris Albertson
What accuracy requirements do you have?Do you have a requirement to measure and test your installation? Testing likely means you will have to round trip the signal. The round trip doubles the cost but I don't see how to avoid it unless you already have accurate time at both ends and if you

Re: [time-nuts] Setting Windows XP clock.

2014-07-13 Thread Ed Palmer
Now that I think back, I had a couple of XP systems where the system was configured to get time from the Internet, but the service silently failed. You could click on the 'update now' button and would be informed that the update was successful but the time was still wrong. Stopping and

Re: [time-nuts] Setting Windows XP clock.

2014-07-13 Thread Chris Albertson
Yes the isolated LAN works perfectly. It in effect takes the XP machine off the public internet. However there is a lower cost solution that does the same thing. What you do is virtualize all the hardware that is described below. The XP machine and the bridge computer can be the same

Re: [time-nuts] Setting Windows XP clock.

2014-07-13 Thread Hal Murray
albertson.ch...@gmail.com said: 1) It is set to use an NTP server called time.windows.com to set the clock. 3) The above is working as well as it has ever worked. Nothing has changed at Microsoft's end. It may be more complicated than that. time.windows.com is a cname for

Re: [time-nuts] Setting Windows XP clock.

2014-07-13 Thread Chris Albertson
I did see some retries going to time.windows.com. I'd suggest changing to 0.north-america.pool.ntp.org if you live in North America It took several seconds to get time form time.windows.com but 0.north-america.pool.ntp.org had no delay. On Sun, Jul 13, 2014 at 12:00 PM, Hal Murray

Re: [time-nuts] Optical Distribution of 1PPS and IRIG

2014-07-13 Thread George Atkinson
Hi IRIG A20 (manchester code) or even A10 (DC level shift) should drive a transmitter directly or you could use an AM carrier, A13 is 10kHz, A14 100kHz or A15 1MHz. LuxLink sell off-the shelf solutions, see http://www.luxlink.com/products/irig.htm or SEL will do duplex data plus IRIG B over a two

Re: [time-nuts] Optical Distribution of 1PPS and IRIG

2014-07-13 Thread Martin A Flynn
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Re: [time-nuts] Setting Windows XP clock.

2014-07-13 Thread Don Latham
Whee! Chris: the text box in the xp clock set window is ONE CHARACTER too short to contain the suggested url. It just gets better and better. Don Chris Albertson I did see some retries going to time.windows.com. I'd suggest changing to 0.north-america.pool.ntp.org if you live in North America

Re: [time-nuts] Setting Windows XP clock.

2014-07-13 Thread Don Latham
All I can get with any server is an error occurred while synchronizing. . . OTH my symmetricom analog network clock is peacefully humming along and has been for at least a year now. Connected to the same ISP. Don Chris Albertson I did see some retries going to time.windows.com. I'd suggest

Re: [time-nuts] Setting Windows XP clock.

2014-07-13 Thread Daniel Mendes
This probably ends in the registry somewere... type some random garbage, save, and seach the registry for this string... then edit the registry to put the correct url there. Or use a url shortener service Daniel Em 13/07/2014 17:18, Don Latham escreveu: Whee! Chris: the text box in

Re: [time-nuts] Setting Windows XP clock.

2014-07-13 Thread Don Latham
kudos to ya, Daniel. Altering thee registry value works, have to keep ,0x1 at the end of the string. The textbox keeps the junk, but the message claims time successfuly set at ... and the system clock display agrees with my time-nuttery clocks, at least to the eye. Only appears in one place in the

Re: [time-nuts] Setting Windows XP clock.

2014-07-13 Thread Brian Lloyd
On Sun, Jul 13, 2014 at 3:18 PM, Don Latham d...@montana.com wrote: Whee! Chris: the text box in the xp clock set window is ONE CHARACTER too short to contain the suggested url. It just gets better and better. pool.ntp.org. -- Brian Lloyd Lloyd Aviation 706 Flightline Drive Spring Branch,

Re: [time-nuts] WWVB remod instant cheap clock receiver

2014-07-13 Thread Paul Davis
The real point was just to mention another source - j/k about the price ;) Lots of Wally World around so maybe easier to find than Costco. I embedded a picture which I hope will appear. The loopstick is about 7mm diameter and 6cm long. It is attached to a small circuit board which is marked

Re: [time-nuts] WWVB remod instant cheap clock receiver

2014-07-13 Thread Paul Davis
Since the 87kb picture was completely stripped out of my prior reply, here's a link to a pic: http://www.pumpkinbrook.com/files/Module1.jpg Paul ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to

Re: [time-nuts] Setting Windows XP clock.

2014-07-13 Thread Daniel Mendes
You´re welcome ;) Daniel Em 13/07/2014 18:01, Don Latham escreveu: kudos to ya, Daniel. Altering thee registry value works, have to keep ,0x1 at the end of the string. The textbox keeps the junk, but the message claims time successfuly set at ... and the system clock display agrees with my

Re: [time-nuts] Setting Windows XP clock.

2014-07-13 Thread Don Latham
That appears to work as well. Good on ya Don Brian Lloyd On Sun, Jul 13, 2014 at 3:18 PM, Don Latham d...@montana.com wrote: Whee! Chris: the text box in the xp clock set window is ONE CHARACTER too short to contain the suggested url. It just gets better and better. pool.ntp.org. --

Re: [time-nuts] WWVB remod instant cheap clock receiver

2014-07-13 Thread paul swed
Paul the pix came through and yes another nice module and as you say at wally world and there are lots of those. The only guess is the data out or time code. They come both ways. That is as the remodulator is designed a low carrier -14 db at the tick represents a high logic. There is a spare