[time-nuts] FOSDEM 2015 has a time-track

2015-01-07 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
FOSDEM is an Open-Source gathering once a year in Bruxelles, and this year there is a track dedicated to time: https://fosdem.org/2015/schedule/track/time/ Those of you of an european persuassion may find it relevant... -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20

Re: [time-nuts] VC-OCXO EFC stability.

2015-01-07 Thread Bob Stewart
In that case, it all depends on what you're trying to accomplish. If you're using WWV or something like that to set the frequency, then the 78L05 should be fine. Bob From: ct1dmk ct1...@gmail.com To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com Sent:

Re: [time-nuts] VC-OCXO EFC stability.

2015-01-07 Thread Daniel Mendes
I tried something like that once just to discover that the OCXO VFC port had low impedance, so my voltage divider didnĀ“t behave very well. So i put an amp op in unitary gain configuration between the two and things improved a lot. Then I changed the amp op for a DP precision part and things

Re: [time-nuts] VC-OCXO EFC stability.

2015-01-07 Thread Bruce Griffiths
Luis If you have sufficient headroom (input supply 7V or so) why not use a buried zener reference chip like an LT1027? These chips also have a noise reduction pin. Otherwise a lower dropout bandgap reference like an LT1019 or similar may be useful. Bruce On Wednesday, January 07, 2015

Re: [time-nuts] June 30 2015 leap second

2015-01-07 Thread Tom Van Baak
The difference between GPS time and UTC (due to leap seconds) is broadcast in the GPS navigation message[1] so all but the most poorly designed GPS modules should take care of it and output the correct UTC time. Henry, This is not quite true. First, page 18 of subframe 4 is only broadcast

Re: [time-nuts] VC-OCXO EFC stability.

2015-01-07 Thread Bob Camp
Hi If you find that your EFC port is low impedance - check it for a bias voltage. It may well have a pull up resistor to an internal Vref. The intent is that you simply tune it with a resistance to ground. Bob On Jan 6, 2015, at 8:49 PM, Daniel Mendes dmend...@gmail.com wrote: I tried

Re: [time-nuts] June 30 2015 leap second

2015-01-07 Thread Henry Hallam
The difference between GPS time and UTC (due to leap seconds) is broadcast in the GPS navigation message[1] so all but the most poorly designed GPS modules should take care of it and output the correct UTC time. I'm not going to get into the mess of unix epoch time. Basically, it's not a

Re: [time-nuts] schematics of frequency counter

2015-01-07 Thread Li Ang
Charles Steinmetz csteinmetz@... writes: Actually, I dont want to ask my colledge for help. Everytime ,for each guy I ask for help, I need expain the entire system and principle of a frequency counter to him. They just keep asking questions instead of answering mine. In defense of

Re: [time-nuts] VC-OCXO EFC stability.

2015-01-07 Thread Charles Steinmetz
Luis wrote: With a multiturn pot and a 78L05 I can get a 0 to 5V EFC to tune an OCXO on desired freq. But... maybe other voltage regulators or other scheme have better temp stability than the old 78L05. Before I crawl lost in new'ish fancy regulator land does anybody know the killer

[time-nuts] TDS12 (AKA PRS10) use indication.

2015-01-07 Thread Mike Cook
I have a SR TDS12 which apart from name appears to be a PRS10. The ID string indicates PRS10 and the firmware version is the same as on another PRS10 that I have. The only differences that I could see at first power up is the that default config has Lock Mode 2 as opposed to the normal default

[time-nuts] Milliren 260-0544-C

2015-01-07 Thread Andrea Baldoni
Hello! I would like to buy 4 or 5 Milliren 260-0544-C from Excess Solutions as it was discussed 22 october 2014, but their shipping rates are really excessive (127 USD for 4 of them). So I would like to know if there's someone in the US who can buy them for me and ship them cheaply; eventually if

Re: [time-nuts] June 30 2015 leap second

2015-01-07 Thread d0ct0r
Tom, Thanks for the comments ! In my design I am using NMEA as an option to set initial time on the clock. Its just faster and more convenient than doing it manually. And in the other (rare) occasions when clock logic could decide to sync. RTC module time with time received from GPS module.

Re: [time-nuts] June 30 2015 leap second

2015-01-07 Thread d0ct0r
Tim, I was using perl as a tool to calculate UNIX time. As my project based on STM32 MCU, I have no option to use time libraries. And I dont' think its applcable for my project. I am thinking what exactly of that UNIX time is. Looks like its using simple constants, like we have 86400

Re: [time-nuts] June 30 2015 leap second

2015-01-07 Thread Hal Murray
I think you can see this as a 15 second jump if you watch a GPS receiver doing a cold start. I mean really cold as in no memory at all rather than it t...@patoka.org said: Exactly ! I saw that behaviour few times.But I was thinking its because of some very old satelites which knows

Re: [time-nuts] Milliren 260-0544-C

2015-01-07 Thread Bert Kehren via time-nuts
Are those not the ones that have no EFC In a message dated 1/7/2015 3:02:20 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, erm1ea...@ermione.com writes: Hello! I would like to buy 4 or 5 Milliren 260-0544-C from Excess Solutions as it was discussed 22 october 2014, but their shipping rates are really

[time-nuts] Using oscillators to measure earthquakes

2015-01-07 Thread Mark Sims
Today the Dallas area has been experiencing several eathquakes. The largest were magnitude 3.2, 3.6, and 3.1 at a depth of around 4km.They happened around every three hours. I am around 5 miles from the epicenter. They are strong enough to shake the house quite a bit. The largest put a

Re: [time-nuts] June 30 2015 leap second

2015-01-07 Thread Tim Shoppa
I'm not sure there's any computer time package that correctly disambiguates 23:59:59 vs 23:59:60 in UTC timestamps in a general purpose way. Some software simply rejects 23:59:60 UTC as invalid, some will quietly map it to 23:59:59 effectively making those two seconds impossible to distinguish.