Re: [time-nuts] Leap Second result on PST Model 1020

2015-07-04 Thread Jeff Woolsey
That's only about the third unit I've ever even heard of. They seem to be rarer than hen's teeth these days. All the more reason to kick myself for giving back the one I borrowed around Hallowe'en 1990 or so to compare it with my GC-1000 and watch Daylight Saving Time end for the year. It did s

Re: [time-nuts] beaglebones, time, web services

2015-07-04 Thread Hal Murray
jim...@earthlink.net said: > Exactly... I've got an array of mirrors on az/el mounts (two servos > stacked) and the reflection from the mirrors on the wall forms the display. How many pixels in that display? Or what is the unit of quality measurement? What sort of ADEV are you aiming for? If

[time-nuts] leap second video from NICT Japan

2015-07-04 Thread dikshie
Hi, This is leap second video from NICT Japan. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_VV7d3GEhk everyone were gather together to see leap second moment. Best Regards, -- -dikshie- ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to http

[time-nuts] Leap second results: Ball/Efratom MGPS

2015-07-04 Thread Chuck Harris
I really thought I could be for once in my life be "in with the in-crowd"... I had my little Canon Mini-DV camera setup facing my Ball/Efratom MGPS display. The picture was clear, the focus was good... And 5 minutes before the appointed time, I started recording, and got a very good recording of

Re: [time-nuts] GPS/UTC time

2015-07-04 Thread Jim Lux
On 7/4/15 2:01 PM, Tom Van Baak wrote: (the Japan earthquake in 2011 sped the earth up by 1.8 microseconds/day. The Sumatra quake on 26 Dec 2004 had a bigger effect: 6.8 microseconds) Hi Jim, Just in case you didn't know -- these are theoretical results only. There's a guy at JPL (Richard Gros

Re: [time-nuts] GPS/UTC time

2015-07-04 Thread Jim Lux
On 7/4/15 12:18 PM, Brian Inglis wrote: (the Japan earthquake in 2011 sped the earth up by 1.8 microseconds/day. The Sumatra quake on 26 Dec 2004 had a bigger effect: 6.8 microseconds) By my calculations, that should mean the earth rotated 3mm farther/day at the equator after Sumatra. Anyone

Re: [time-nuts] beaglebones, time, web services

2015-07-04 Thread Jim Lux
On 7/4/15 1:42 PM, Simon Marsh wrote: Pretty much every webserver ever written allows you to run a script in response to a request. Nowadays there are frameworks that integrate closely with the language of your choice and do all the heavy lifting for you. If fact, the problem is really too mu

Re: [time-nuts] beaglebones, time, web services

2015-07-04 Thread Jim Lux
On 7/4/15 12:31 PM, Bob Camp wrote: Hi As silly as it sounds, having a separate board for the user i/o is probably the best way to go. You already have an empire of devices that (somehow) chat with each other. The barrier of “it’s all on one device” has been broken even before i/o has been add

Re: [time-nuts] beaglebones, time, web services

2015-07-04 Thread Jim Lux
On 7/4/15 11:55 AM, Mike Magin wrote: Somewhat new time-nut here (had one of the Samsung-branded Z3805s for a few months as a house 10mhz ref, but it really got out of control when I acquired a Wavecrest DTS, multiple frequency counters, an old Astron 1250a, a Lucent RFTG-u pair, etc.), thought I

Re: [time-nuts] GPS/UTC time

2015-07-04 Thread Bob Camp
Hi > On Jul 4, 2015, at 3:18 PM, Brian Inglis > wrote: > > On 2015-07-04 07:36, Jim Lux wrote: >> On 7/3/15 9:45 PM, Brek Martin wrote: >>> I feel like I missed “The Big Thing” in time keeping land. I should have >>> watched my Ublox LEA-5T. >>> What is the difference if it is in the reporting

Re: [time-nuts] beaglebones, time, web services

2015-07-04 Thread Jim Lux
On 7/4/15 11:45 AM, Bill Dailey wrote: Pysolar Sent from mobile "Pysolar: staring directly at the sun since 2007" excellent.. thanks.. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/lis

Re: [time-nuts] End of the World, or beginning of a new one?

2015-07-04 Thread Tom Van Baak
See patent US5923618 and also http://www.leapsecond.com/notes/gpswnro.htm for details. Based on what happened to the TS2100 (with Trimble ACE receiver) it looks like they tried to guess which 1024-week GPS epoch it was based on how high the leap second count was. And although this sounds good i

Re: [time-nuts] HP 5370a

2015-07-04 Thread paul swed
Matthias I am afraid I am not much help here. I did look at the a19/20 interpolators. A lot going on in that small space. I guess i would check the 200 MHz feeding into it. The VCO is fairly simple in using a gate and a delay line. I will guess the delay line is coax. But there are all kinds of gat

Re: [time-nuts] GPS/UTC time

2015-07-04 Thread Tom Van Baak
> (the Japan earthquake in 2011 sped the earth up by 1.8 microseconds/day. > The Sumatra quake on 26 Dec 2004 had a bigger effect: 6.8 microseconds) Hi Jim, Just in case you didn't know -- these are theoretical results only. There's a guy at JPL (Richard Gross) who does the calculations and an

Re: [time-nuts] beaglebones, time, web services

2015-07-04 Thread Simon Marsh
On 04/07/2015 14:13, Jim Lux wrote: ... BUT now, I'd like to add a web interface, so that it can be manipulated by a mobile device using a browser. ... Is the best scheme to go in and modify the webserver code to look for specific URLs requested, and then fire off some custom code to do what

Re: [time-nuts] beaglebones, time, web services

2015-07-04 Thread Steve Berl
pyEphem will get the sun position stuff for you. -steve On Sat, Jul 4, 2015 at 6:13 AM, Jim Lux wrote: > I've got a project I'm working on to make a sophisticated sundial with > moving mirrors. I've got a batch of Arduinos that move the mirrors to the > appropriate places, given the current su

Re: [time-nuts] End of the World, or beginning of a new one?

2015-07-04 Thread Björn
"Yes the Tymserve and other similar DATUM / Symmetricom products which  use the Trimble ACE board will fail again in 2016. This is due to the  way the GPS epoch is calculated inside the 2100 : the DATUM engineers  estimated the future leap second insertions to determine GPS epochs,  which was not a

Re: [time-nuts] beaglebones, time, web services

2015-07-04 Thread Bob Camp
Hi As silly as it sounds, having a separate board for the user i/o is probably the best way to go. You already have an empire of devices that (somehow) chat with each other. The barrier of “it’s all on one device” has been broken even before i/o has been added. The world of user input is a bi

Re: [time-nuts] GPS/UTC time

2015-07-04 Thread Brian Inglis
On 2015-07-04 07:36, Jim Lux wrote: On 7/3/15 9:45 PM, Brek Martin wrote: I feel like I missed “The Big Thing” in time keeping land. I should have watched my Ublox LEA-5T. What is the difference if it is in the reporting mode for GPS or UTC time? If they skip a second UTC, surely the GPS time i

Re: [time-nuts] beaglebones, time, web services

2015-07-04 Thread Mike Magin
Somewhat new time-nut here (had one of the Samsung-branded Z3805s for a few months as a house 10mhz ref, but it really got out of control when I acquired a Wavecrest DTS, multiple frequency counters, an old Astron 1250a, a Lucent RFTG-u pair, etc.), thought I should finally de-lurk since I can perh

Re: [time-nuts] beaglebones, time, web services

2015-07-04 Thread Bill Dailey
Pysolar Sent from mobile > On Jul 4, 2015, at 8:13 AM, Jim Lux wrote: > > I've got a project I'm working on to make a sophisticated sundial with moving > mirrors. I've got a batch of Arduinos that move the mirrors to the > appropriate places, given the current sun angle, etc. > > I've got

Re: [time-nuts] GPS/UTC time

2015-07-04 Thread Bill Hawkins
-Original Message- From: Brek Martin Sent: Friday, July 03, 2015 11:46 PM >If they skip a second UTC, surely the GPS time isn't run incorrectly forever. Correct for who or what? There are two kinds of time (using some simplifying assumptions): machine and social. Machine time is monot

[time-nuts] HP 5370a

2015-07-04 Thread Matthias Jelen
Dear Time-Nuts, I´m still struggling to get my 5370A to work reliable again. It keeps showing error 04. Sometimes it is working without any problems for hours, sometimes it´s a matter of minutes until the error is displayed, and sometimes I doesn´t come up without the error at all. I don´t

Re: [time-nuts] End of the World, or beginning of a new one?

2015-07-04 Thread olivier - heol design
Michael A. Waldron writes: > > Olivier from Heol says that it will revert to 1995 again in a few months, although he was unspecific as to the > exact reasons he said they simulated it in their lab. > > I've decided I'd like to upgrade the GPS in my 2100-rb, but it will probably be a little

[time-nuts] beaglebones, time, web services

2015-07-04 Thread Jim Lux
I've got a project I'm working on to make a sophisticated sundial with moving mirrors. I've got a batch of Arduinos that move the mirrors to the appropriate places, given the current sun angle, etc. I've got a beaglebone that runs some python code to calculate sun angle based on time The be

Re: [time-nuts] GPS/UTC time

2015-07-04 Thread paul swed
Steve has it right. GPS/atomic time is always right and our earthly time frame is always slowing down. Though as time passes it seems it speeds up. Must be some relativistic effect but only for humans? Your system would not show this issue until you compared it to our time from say WWV. Thats why t

Re: [time-nuts] GPS/UTC time

2015-07-04 Thread Jim Lux
On 7/3/15 9:45 PM, Brek Martin wrote: Hi Guys, I feel like I missed “The Big Thing” in time keeping land. I should have watched my Ublox LEA-5T. What is the difference if it is in the reporting mode for GPS or UTC time? If they skip a second UTC, surely the GPS time isn’t run incorrectly fore

Re: [time-nuts] GPS/UTC time

2015-07-04 Thread Bob Camp
Hi Unless your crystal has been cut for temperature sensing (AC or LC cut) you will have some issues sensing temperature over a very wide region. Bob > On Jul 4, 2015, at 12:45 AM, Brek Martin wrote: > > > > Hi Guys, > > I feel like I missed “The Big Thing” in time keeping land. I should

Re: [time-nuts] GPS/UTC time

2015-07-04 Thread Steve Platt
> surely the GPS time isn’t run incorrectly forever. Yes it is :-) In simple terms, the integer part of the drift is removed by inserting extra seconds every so often. A count of those seconds is part of the GPS data stream and s/w displays which timeframe you select. Steve -- Steve Platt __

[time-nuts] GPS/UTC time

2015-07-04 Thread Brek Martin
Hi Guys, I feel like I missed “The Big Thing” in time keeping land. I should have watched my Ublox LEA-5T. What is the difference if it is in the reporting mode for GPS or UTC time? If they skip a second UTC, surely the GPS time isn’t run incorrectly forever. I’m using the Ublox to synchronise