Re: [time-nuts] New WWVB modulation format receivers (NOT)

2014-02-21 Thread Didier Juges
Many ham transceivers can tune that low, but they are indeed completely deaf because the input filter (including coupling transformer) takes most of the signal out and the phase noise of the synthesizers cover the rest in noise. Didier KO4BB On February 20, 2014 10:35:06 PM CST, Graeme Zimmer

Re: [time-nuts] 5370 processor boards available

2014-02-24 Thread Didier Juges
An very impressive achievement. I particularly like the elegant use of the PRU to overcome the non-real time nature of the Angstrom distribution. Congratulations John! Didier KO4BB On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 9:56 PM, John Seamons j...@jks.com wrote: Please excuse this commercial announcement

Re: [time-nuts] 5370 processor boards available

2014-02-27 Thread Didier Juges
The BBB has 2GB of flash on board (non removable) and has a micro SD socket. Would not be too hard to keep a backup copy of the OS and apps on the SD card so that it would be easy to boot from SD and reload the built-in flash if the BBB fails to boot from the built-in image. That would not be

Re: [time-nuts] Serial port splitter s/w

2014-02-27 Thread Didier Juges
A number of people have reported issues with the Raspberry Pi Ethernet hardware when used for NTP, as it is actually a USB-Ethernet bridge and the drivers may not be all they could be. I have not had problems myself but I do not run NTP on it. The Beaglebone Black (BBB) is supposed to be better

Re: [time-nuts] 5370 processor boards available

2014-02-27 Thread Didier Juges
Now that you mention it, I have another small embedded system with 64MB of RAM that runs Linux 3.4 just fine off a flash drive, so running a RAM disk in 512MB should be feasible. Didier KO4BB On February 27, 2014 9:12:45 AM CST, Jim Lux jim...@earthlink.net wrote: On 2/27/14 6:40 AM, Didier

Re: [time-nuts] 5370 processor boards available

2014-02-27 Thread Didier Juges
The only time there is any exposure is during a write operation That is not true. By default, Linux updates the last access time for each file it reads. The last access time is stored with the file, so each file read actually causes the file to be written to as well, opening the door to all

Re: [time-nuts] 5370 processor boards available

2014-02-28 Thread Didier Juges
If you use a flash-based embedded ARM board, how much is it worth to you that it works everyday? How much is it worth to you that you do not have to rebuild it once a year or once a month? I have several of them and I corrupted one a couple of years ago. It was not something that was on 24/7

[time-nuts] Thunderbolt monitor upgrade

2014-02-28 Thread Didier Juges
Here comes a brief but shameless plug :) I just released a significant upgrade to my Thunderbolt monitor with support for an optional WiFi module that can emulate John Miles' Lady Heather Server functionality. It allows you to remotely monitor your Thunderbolt via your home network, or over the

Re: [time-nuts] Another atomic clock question

2014-03-04 Thread Didier Juges
What would be more interesting would be to adjust the temperature of the GPS receiver's oscillator to eliminate the hanging bridges altogether, kind of like Trimble does with the Thunderbolt, except that they do it directly instead of indirectly. That may require to characterize the crystal

Re: [time-nuts] Another atomic clock question

2014-03-05 Thread Didier Juges
Tom and Bob, It is not obvious to me that it is easier to simply apply a correction in nS increments with a range as wide as 100nS. How is this done? Using switched delay lines or delay gates? In the digital domain, 1nS resolution implies pretty fast clocks. On the other hand, processing a message

Re: [time-nuts] How to measure phase noise of HCMOS oscillators?

2014-03-12 Thread Didier Juges
The LMH6702 is a wicked fast op amp which will react accordingly it there are parasitics in the feedback path. I have only used them with well laid out PWBs and extremely short traces to surface mount resistors. Under those conditions, they work beautifully as advertised. Not sure anyone other

Re: [time-nuts] NIST time services

2014-03-19 Thread Didier Juges
I would, but I don't have the time at the moment :) Didier KO4BB On March 19, 2014 12:18:23 AM CDT, Tom Van Baak t...@leapsecond.com wrote: If you can design a system that can handle 6.5 billion requests per day, this opportunity is for you...

Re: [time-nuts] TSIP protocol for T-Bolt

2014-03-26 Thread Didier Juges
You can play with my Thunderbolt Simulator: http://www.ko4bb.com/Timing/GPSMonitor/TBoltSim.php (Windows only, sorry...) It lets you create arbitrary packets (including setting fault conditions and arbitrary GPS time or coordinates) and properly escapes the embedded DLEs. The actual string that

Re: [time-nuts] TSIP protocol for T-Bolt

2014-03-26 Thread Didier Juges
Tom, You are missing the 2002 version I have on my web site :) I already had the 2003, I will add the others Thanks for the links Didier KO4BB On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 2:31 PM, Tom Van Baak t...@leapsecond.com wrote: For those of you who collect documentation, now here are 4 versions:

[time-nuts] Diamond Systems Prometheus EA

2014-04-02 Thread Didier Juges
I have a few of these old PC-104 x86 boards: http://www.diamondsystems.com/products/prometheusEAL They have a 100MHz ZFx86 low power processor with built-in Ethernet MAC and Phy, 32MB of RAM and 2MB of flash and they can run Linux. I was wondering if anyone had run NTP on a system like this.

Re: [time-nuts] Frequency of LC Tank.

2014-04-12 Thread Didier Juges
Keep in mind that anything you connect across your tank circuit will affect its resonant frequency and Q (signal source and measuring device). You need to make sure your equipment is very loosely coupled to the UUT through small value capacitors for instance. Didier KO4BB On April 11, 2014

Re: [time-nuts] How to accurately measure an oscillator's temperature.

2014-04-25 Thread Didier Juges
The best way is to place the temperature sensor near the part or parts that are the most temperature sensitive. When dealing with something that is already in an oven, that may not be so easy. Didier KO4BB On April 23, 2014 9:37:29 PM CDT, Chris Albertson albertson.ch...@gmail.com wrote: I

Re: [time-nuts] Truetime 60-TF Manual

2014-06-09 Thread Didier Juges
Hi Dave, If you send me a copy, I will post it with my manuals Didier KO4BB On June 8, 2014 10:22:46 PM CDT, Dale H. Cook starc...@plymouthcolony.net wrote: The post about the Truetime DC-60 reminded me that I have a decent photocopy of the Truetime 60-TF frequency comparator manual. Offhand

Re: [time-nuts] Truetime 60-TF Manual

2014-06-10 Thread Didier Juges
OK Dale, Take your time and thanks in advance! Didier KO4BB On June 9, 2014 9:47:01 AM CDT, Dale H. Cook starc...@plymouthcolony.net wrote: At 05:37 AM 6/9/2014, Didier Juges wrote: If you send me a copy, I will post it with my manuals Didier - That sounds like a very good suggestion. I

Re: [time-nuts] HP E3610A Power supply

2014-06-19 Thread Didier Juges
Tom, I just started getting messages again today after almost a week of getting nothing. This account is on gmail No idea what happened... Didier KO4BB On June 18, 2014 10:42:25 PM CDT, Tom Van Baak t...@leapsecond.com wrote: Paul, The E3610A posting was a good one. This explains why some

Re: [time-nuts] Sad news Ulrich Bangert

2014-06-24 Thread Didier Juges
Thank you Bruce. Like others, I was saddened to hear of Ulrich's passing. His contributions and the good spirit under which he contributed were notable. He will be missed. Didier KO4BB On June 23, 2014 4:58:24 PM CDT, br...@ko4bb.com br...@ko4bb.com wrote: Sadly Ina was terminally ill and

Re: [time-nuts] temperature sensor

2014-06-24 Thread Didier Juges
After having tried just about every solution under the sun, my opinion is that within the ambient temperature range (up to at least 100°C) and homebrew budgets, nothing beats an NTC thermistor. They are inexpensive, have a large output and interface most easily with a microcontroller's ADC in

Re: [time-nuts] Loran, GPS, Lightning, Timing

2014-06-25 Thread Didier Juges
I think it would be perfectly appropriate to design an LF amplifier with 12AU7s considering the high signal levels when the storm does get close. I have been thinking of building a system myself since I already have an STMicro Discovery board and several GPS receivers I could use. One

Re: [time-nuts] Sad news Ulrich Bangert

2014-06-26 Thread Didier Juges
Stefan On 24.06.2014 23:17, Didier Juges wrote: Thank you Bruce. Like others, I was saddened to hear of Ulrich's passing. His contributions and the good spirit under which he contributed were notable. He will be missed. Didier KO4BB On June 23, 2014 4:58:24 PM CDT, br...@ko4bb.com br

Re: [time-nuts] GPSDO standard interface?

2014-06-26 Thread Didier Juges
USB may be a common interface to a computer but practically useless to another microcontroller. Everything can do serial but not everything can do USB master. In the worst case, use a Serial-USB adapter on your PC. There is no such thing as a Serial-USB master interface and never will there be

Re: [time-nuts] Loran, GPS, Lightning, Timing

2014-06-27 Thread Didier Juges
TVs, networking gear and other various electronics even though I have surge protectors everywhere. Didier KO4BB On June 25, 2014 4:46:07 PM CDT, Chris Albertson albertson.ch...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 1:24 PM, Didier Juges shali...@gmail.com wrote: One potential problem

Re: [time-nuts] GPSDO standard interface?

2014-06-27 Thread Didier Juges
If you want to see how to generate TSIP message, I can post the code to my Thunderbolt simulator. Its in Visual Basic but it will show you an example. It generates the primary and secondary packets. You can download the software from my web site www.ko4bb.com Didier KO4BB On June 26, 2014

Re: [time-nuts] GPSDO standard interface?

2014-06-27 Thread Didier Juges
I am quite familiar with that chip which perfectly illustrates my point. A universal serial/USB Master interface it is not. Didier KO4BB On June 27, 2014 7:14:34 AM CDT, Dan Kemppainen d...@irtelemetrics.com wrote: http://www.ftdichip.com/Products/ICs/VNC1L.htm On 6/26/2014 3:39 PM,

Re: [time-nuts] Noise and non-linear behaviour of ferrite transformers

2014-07-22 Thread Didier Juges
Effectiveness of coax cable (at eliminating the effects of current through the shield) is often expressed as transfer impedance. Google it for more info, it has been extensively covered in the literature. Didier KO4BB On July 20, 2014 11:18:58 PM CDT, Chuck Harris cfhar...@erols.com wrote:

Re: [time-nuts] Homemade GPS Receiver

2014-09-22 Thread Didier Juges
Quite a project and extremely well presented and executed. Thanks for the link to a fascinating read! Didier KO4BB On September 17, 2014 5:34:38 PM CDT, Peter Putnam n...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Greetings, The link below describes a homemade GPS receiver. It is presented in a detailed and

Re: [time-nuts] SMTP with Trimble Thunderbolt-E

2014-09-28 Thread Didier Juges
Shameless plug: Alternately get my Thunderbolt monitor with a WiFly XBee module and save on electricity. Www.ko4bb.com Didier KO4BB On September 26, 2014 7:55:05 PM CDT, Chris Albertson albertson.ch...@gmail.com wrote: The simple, cheap and easy what to do this is to get a cheap PC of any

Re: [time-nuts] Correcting jitter on the 1 PPSsignalfromaGPSreceiver.

2014-09-28 Thread Didier Juges
Hi Said, Late reply... (been busy) The purpose of the straight drive is to maximize the signal amplitude on the cable. The test intends to demonstrate that it is perfectly adequate if only the far end is matched, and yet you get twice the amplitude you would get with a 50 ohm drive signal. On

[time-nuts] KO4BB.com

2014-09-28 Thread Didier Juges
This is a public service announcement. My Host provider (1and1) has in formed me that traffic on ko4bb.com has consistently and grossly exceeded the unlimited bandwidth allocation specified by contract(!!!) They have also turned off my service a few times this month to emphasize the message. I

Re: [time-nuts] KO4BB.com

2014-09-28 Thread Didier Juges
Messineo francesco.messi...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 6:35 PM, Didier Juges shali...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you for your patience and your support. thank to you for your service! I'm a *nix system administrator since 20 years (well, my job would turn 20 next year actually). So

Re: [time-nuts] KO4BB.com

2014-09-30 Thread Didier Juges
. They have a free tier that works quite well, and even their paid tiers are much cheaper than an ISP that would work for that kind of bandwidth (I had no idea it was so high, but it is a great resource). Thoughts? -Ryan Stasel On Sep 28, 2014, at 11:18 , Didier Juges shali...@gmail.com wrote

Re: [time-nuts] KO4BB.com

2014-10-01 Thread Didier Juges
, at 6:42 PM, Paul Alfille paul.alfi...@gmail.commailto: paul.alfi...@gmail.com wrote: Looking at Cloudflare's website, they claim they will collect usage statistics for you. On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 8:55 PM, Didier Juges shali...@gmail.commailto: shali...@gmail.com wrote: I have looked

Re: [time-nuts] KO4BB.com

2014-10-01 Thread Didier Juges
paul.alfi...@gmail.com wrote: Looking at Cloudflare's website, they claim they will collect usage statistics for you. On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 8:55 PM, Didier Juges shali...@gmail.com wrote: I have looked at Cloudflare and as soon as my domain is transferred, I will get the free account

[time-nuts] KO4BB.com

2014-10-10 Thread Didier Juges
Responding to the list in case others have the same question. DNS is being transfered so the old site no longer respond and the new one does not yet. The URL to use for the new manual and timing site (until the ko4bb.com domain resolves) is: Http://168.144.151.127/ Thank Didier KO4BB -- Sent

Re: [time-nuts] FE-5680 Linux command line tool

2014-10-11 Thread Didier Juges
Most EEPROMs have I2C or SPI interfaces. Some Flash chips have JTAG. Didier KO4BB On October 10, 2014 4:47:19 PM CDT, Tom Wimmenhove tom.wimmenh...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Joe! I don't have the clip-ons but of course I could get them. I know the chip has a JTAG interface, but I've only used

Re: [time-nuts] Sun Outage

2014-10-11 Thread Didier Juges
Just to put that in perspective, we're measuring a few degrees of phase shift in a 32 GHz signal on a path that is over a billion km long. Now this is fully qualified nuttiness :) Didier KO4BB On October 10, 2014 8:17:13 AM CDT, Jim Lux jim...@earthlink.net wrote: On 10/9/14, 10:16 PM, Andy

Re: [time-nuts] locking oscillators - an increase in power and/or stability ?

2014-10-11 Thread Didier Juges
I have been doing phase combining of power amplifiers for almost 30 years, professionally. If I could get 1200W by combining two 300W amplifiers, I would now be retired and very wealthy indeed. Unfortunately, there is no free lunch and unless somehow the Gun oscillators were delivering more

Re: [time-nuts] locking oscillators - an increase in power and/or stability ?

2014-10-11 Thread Didier Juges
That would only work if the impedance of the source was much lower than the impedance of the load. That is extremely unlikely in high power systems (at least in well functioning high power systems), but I heard that modern LNAs do not always provide the best noise figure when matched, so maybe

Re: [time-nuts] FE-5680 Linux command line tool

2014-10-12 Thread Didier Juges
at 7:45 AM, Didier Juges shali...@gmail.com wrote: Most EEPROMs have I2C or SPI interfaces. Some Flash chips have JTAG. Didier KO4BB On October 10, 2014 4:47:19 PM CDT, Tom Wimmenhove tom.wimmenh...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Joe! I don't have the clip-ons but of course I could get them. I

Re: [time-nuts] GPS for ntp

2014-10-21 Thread Didier Juges
Check lightningmaps.org, mentioned on this list before for lightning location via TOA using STMicro Cortex -M4 devices. Didier KO4BB On October 20, 2014 8:39:16 PM CDT, Joseph Gray jg...@zianet.com wrote: What does everyone think of this GPS module for ntp use? According to the specsheet, it

Re: [time-nuts] Phase, One edge or two? (was Digital mixing with a D Flip Flop)

2014-10-22 Thread Didier Juges
Even more effective would be to sample the entire 10MHz waveform instead of just the zero crossing. By doing a best fit of the entire waveform, you should be able to estimate the zero crossing with much greater precision because now the noise is averaged over the entire waveform instead of a

Re: [time-nuts] 10MHz Rubidium reference source for frequencycounter

2014-11-03 Thread Didier Juges
Charles, You can always upload time-related material to my Manuals page: www.ko4bb.com/manuals Didier KO4BB On November 3, 2014 2:43:47 PM CST, Charles Steinmetz csteinm...@yandex.com wrote: Tom wrote: As I understand it, his project is to use the high frequency output of a ublox NEO-7M to

Re: [time-nuts] Lucent KS-24361 Web Page

2014-11-21 Thread Didier Juges
Brooke, Following the links from your page (nice work, thank you) lead me to your Thunderbolt page where you ponder the death of your iCruze monitor. If you refer to the picture of the microprocessor board, you will notice that the locations marked D1, D2 and D3 are populated by zero ohm

Re: [time-nuts] rs-422 rs-232 to fast ethernet converter

2014-11-23 Thread Didier Juges
Graham, There are a number of WiFi to serial modules like the one I use on my Thunderbolt monitor: The Microchip WiFly RN-XV-171. Once configured (typically using a PC), they will present a TCPIP port (TCP or UDP) from which you can get and send data directly to the serial port. Alternately,

Re: [time-nuts] LTE-Lite Plans

2014-11-25 Thread Didier Juges
Jim, I have somewhere a piece of VB 6.0 code that decodes NMEA sentences and puts it pretty on the screen (at least that's how I remember it :). I am not at home at the moment but I'll be glad to send it to you if you are interested. May not do what you want, but it will get you started.

Re: [time-nuts] Counter

2012-12-10 Thread Didier Juges
Well, that obviously went to the wrong place. That was a private message, sorry for the bandwidth. Didier On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 12:06 PM, dlewis6767 dlewis6...@austin.rr.comwrote: Thanks, Didier, if you ever find a mainframe for it, please keep me in mind. Thanks, -Don

Re: [time-nuts] 31bit ADC, 1000 samples per second

2012-12-10 Thread Didier Juges
I do not understand how anyone can guaranty no missing codes when the lower 11 bits are essentially noise? (31 bits resolution versus 20 effective bits) On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 2:19 PM, li...@lazygranch.com wrote: It is 31 bits with no missing codes. Usually missing codes is of concern in

Re: [time-nuts] 31bit ADC, 1000 samples per second

2012-12-10 Thread Didier Juges
How long does it take to prove it? And what's the point? On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 3:04 PM, Gerhard Hoffmann dk...@arcor.de wrote: Am 10.12.2012 21:53, schrieb Didier Juges: I do not understand how anyone can guaranty no missing codes when the lower 11 bits are essentially noise? (31 bits

Re: [time-nuts] 31bit ADC, 1000 samples per second

2012-12-10 Thread Didier Juges
, and noise will limit the usable resolution. On Mon, 10 Dec 2012 15:08:38 -0600, Didier Juges shali...@gmail.com wrote: How long does it take to prove it? And what's the point? On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 3:04 PM, Gerhard Hoffmann dk...@arcor.de wrote: Am 10.12.2012 21:53, schrieb Didier Juges

Re: [time-nuts] Is now the timepod a symmetricom product ?

2012-12-19 Thread Didier Juges
You may have noticed that the miles.io URL now redirects to the Symmetricom page. That would be a clue :) Didier On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 2:56 AM, Timeok tim...@timeok.it wrote: see : http://www.symmetricom.com/lp/**gbu/email/phase-noise-test-**

Re: [time-nuts] Noisy varactor diodes

2012-12-19 Thread Didier Juges
Actually I have had better success with Zener diodes. The 1N47xx series in particular I have used up to VHF with good results. Take a diode with a zener voltage specification 20% above your operating voltage and it may just work. Didier KO4BB On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 1:51 PM, Robert LaJeunesse

Re: [time-nuts] 10 MHz - 16 MHz clock multiplier

2013-01-02 Thread Didier Juges
Tom, This may not be the answer you are looking for, but the simplest way may be to use a uC that has a PLL for clock generation. Didier On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 12:54 PM, Tom Van Baak t...@leapsecond.com wrote: What's the simplest way to generate 16 MHz from 10 MHz? This will be for clocking

Re: [time-nuts] suggestions for free samples from AD

2013-01-05 Thread Didier Juges
These days there's a trick where you can borrow things like dev boards. As long as you don't trash them, there's no charge. Often they seem to forget you have them…. These tricks work best when you actually use that kind of product in your day job and the sales rep has the hope of eventually

Re: [time-nuts] lightweight webserver for, e.g., NTP widget

2013-02-12 Thread Didier Juges
Before you know it, you are going to find that not having php (or Python, or Perl, or whatever your favorite scripting language is) is crippling. I recommend you bite the bullet and get a small ARM SBC big enough to run a full Linux distro. I use a TS-7553 from embeddedarm.com with great

Re: [time-nuts] lightweight webserver for, e.g., NTP widget

2013-02-12 Thread Didier Juges
If you decide to go with one of the SBCs at embeddedarm.com, I have a Wiki page on my web site documenting how I have set mine up. Didier Www.ko4bb.com Sent from my Droid Razr 4G LTE wireless tracker. -Original Message- From: Jim Lux jim...@earthlink.net To: Discussion of precise

Re: [time-nuts] lightweight webserver for, e.g., NTP widget

2013-02-12 Thread Didier Juges
Message- From: Didier Juges shali...@gmail.com Sender: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2013 13:47:41 To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurementtime-nuts@febo.com Reply-To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com Subject: Re

Re: [time-nuts] Logging the grid frequency....

2013-02-24 Thread Didier Juges
on occasion caused capacitive line filters on nearby equipment to overheat and catch fire. Peter On 2/23/2013 7:53 AM, Didier Juges wrote: I am curious how this compares with the zero crossing method. I suppose it should work much better because this method will not be so sensitive to noise around

Re: [time-nuts] Reading data from Thunderbolt using an Arduino

2013-04-05 Thread Didier Juges
Of course, you are welcome to use any part or all of it. Software is free and the hardware cost almost negligible. If you don't do C, that would be an excellent way to get started with something simple and that works and that does something you need. Didier Sent from my Droid Razr 4G LTE

Re: [time-nuts] Distribution amps for Thunderbolt

2013-05-19 Thread Didier Juges
These are handy little boxes for the money. Unfortunately the outputs are not isolated from each other (galvanically and signal-wise) so be mindful that if you connect/disconnect one port, the adjacent port will be affected. Unless you need to, it is probably best to wire all 3 inputs in parallel

Re: [time-nuts] Net4501's cheap...

2013-05-19 Thread Didier Juges
I snatched one for $20 and they are now $59 or best offer. On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 11:18 AM, Bob Camp li...@rtty.us wrote: Hi There are a number of things that a Net4501 could be used for…. Bob On May 19, 2013, at 10:45 AM, Jason Rabel ja...@extremeoverclocking.com wrote: Just a

Re: [time-nuts] Good (cheap) PIC chip choice for project?

2013-05-25 Thread Didier Juges
While I have often said that I have more time than money, I still consider that my time is too scarce (or valuable) for assembly language. My opinion is that the language for small embedded devices is C. Some may disagree, but after over 40 years of writing software for a whole bunch of

Re: [time-nuts] Good (cheap) PIC chip choice for project?

2013-05-25 Thread Didier Juges
The Pi has virtually no IOs, not good for any embedded system. The BeagleBone Black on the other hand has plentt of IOs Didier Jim Lux jim...@earthlink.net wrote: On 5/25/13 10:55 AM, Chris Albertson wrote: 3) the Pi is almost PC-like and very easy to use. Costs about $40 and requires a

Re: [time-nuts] Good (cheap) PIC chip choice for project?

2013-05-26 Thread Didier Juges
Well, its a matter of opinions I guess. The RPi has one UART which is also the console port, so so much for that, and 17 IOs in total from the link in the message below. On the other hand, the BeagleBone Black has 96 IOs including several UARTs. I have one of each at the moment, and it seems

Re: [time-nuts] Follow-up question re: microcontroller families

2013-05-26 Thread Didier Juges
Bah, 8 pins is way overkill for a fan controller, Microchip has a uC in a SOT-6 package that could probably do the job :) Didier Chris Albertson albertson.ch...@gmail.com wrote: But for many applications, the inevitable overhead (power, heat, external components, OS, etc) simply eliminates

Re: [time-nuts] Good (cheap) PIC chip choice for project?

2013-05-26 Thread Didier Juges
For some of the TI and NXP boards I have seen, the debug chip is clearly bigger than the target, probably due to the fact that the debut chip has USB and USB is typically only supported in the bigger chips. Didier Bob Camp li...@rtty.us wrote: Hi It is interesting how the various outfits

Re: [time-nuts] iPhone app

2010-02-17 Thread Didier Juges
My Blackberry gives me several options for time, including the option to sync from the network on cue, but it will only display the current time with a resolution of 1 minute. There may be 3rd party apps that do better, I have not looked, but I am a little miffed that the phone does not have a

Re: [time-nuts] Fw: Re: Fluke1 Monitor

2010-02-17 Thread Didier Juges
It was the Chinese new year. China closes for about 2 weeks and nothing gets done. Didier Sent from my BlackBerry Wireless thingy while I do other things... -Original Message- From: Brooke Clarke bro...@pacific.net Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2010 11:33:36 To:

Re: [time-nuts] Low noise voltage regulators

2010-02-24 Thread Didier Juges
The original 723 (I remember the uA723 made by Fairchild, I still have a couple of 30 year old parts here) had a buried Zener and was considered pretty quiet at the time. I am not sure how it would compare with today's low noise references, but the last time I checked, it was pretty good,

Re: [time-nuts] lunatic fringe time standards

2010-04-14 Thread Didier Juges
Eugen, My understanding is that in Germany, a suitable alternative to the Trimble Thunderbolt is as follows: http://www.ko4bb.com/Trimble_Thundebolt.png :) Didier KO4BB (sorry, I could not resist...) Eugen Leitl eu...@leitl.org wrote: Hi -- a couple somewhat lunatic questions.

Re: [time-nuts] lunatic fringe time standards

2010-04-15 Thread Didier Juges
I believe Gray code was invented to support absolute mechanical position encoders, where the speed of the electronics is high compared to the speed of the hardware being monitored. It eliminates the potentially large error between two positions since only one bit changes at a time. This is done

Re: [time-nuts] Fluke monitor

2010-05-05 Thread Didier Juges
Considering that there are two main components in the display, it could be either the microcontroller, the LCD display, or the cabling between the two. I am not sure what you mean by swishing, but if shaking it fixes the problem, even momentarily, it may be as simple as a cold solder joint. It

Re: [time-nuts] Fluke monitor

2010-05-12 Thread Didier Juges
Must be the Y2.01K bug... Sorry about the problems being reported recently. While I have no association with Bob of Fluke.l, he is using my design and he was kind enough to send me one demo model, which I have yet to turn on. In general, if the processor is not fried, there is very little that

Re: [time-nuts] Z3805 utility, Was: AW: (no subject)

2010-05-22 Thread Didier Juges
Bill, I think you got it backwards. +/- 12V is typical for RS-232, 0/+5V is for RS-422 and RS-485. No RS-232 receiver should be damaged with +/- 12V or even +/- 15V because that is their normal operating voltage. Also, RS-422 and RS-485 have something like 25V common mode tolerance (not sure

Re: [time-nuts] Z3805 utility, Was: AW: (no subject)

2010-05-22 Thread Didier Juges
time and frequency measurementtime-nuts@febo.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Z3805 utility, Was: AW: (no subject) Didier Juges wrote: Bill, I think you got it backwards. +/- 12V is typical for RS-232, 0/+5V is for RS-422 and RS-485. No RS-232 receiver should be damaged with +/- 12V or even

Re: [time-nuts] hp 5087a manual

2010-05-23 Thread Didier Juges
I found it, it was uploaded as 5078 and I blissfully saved it under that name, I am fixing it :) Didier KO4BB -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of paul swed Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2010 9:15 PM To: Discussion of

Re: [time-nuts] Notes on tight-PLL performance versus TSC 5120A

2010-06-03 Thread Didier Juges
Steve Rooke sar10...@gmail.com wrote: ... Lets explore frequency measurement in a way that we all can understand. No oscillator can be measured in isolation, it has to be measured against another standard oscillator. The last part of your statement is not true. An oscillator's period

Re: [time-nuts] A philosophy of science view on the tight pll discussion

2010-06-03 Thread Didier Juges
WarrenS warrensjmail-...@yahoo.com wrote: Ulrich posted a bunch of logic stuff, some of which I did not understand. but I do think he missed the main point I personally think Warren missed the point entirely, but it's just my opinion. This statement is a good summary of what has

Re: [time-nuts] Thunderbolt not seeing satellites

2010-06-10 Thread Didier Juges
My understanding is that you have the older red box. Manual for the red box is there: http://www.ko4bb.com/Manuals/05%29_GPS_Timing/Trimble/Trimble_-_Thunderbolt/ ThunderBolt_Datasheet_%28red_box%29.pdf The power spec is 24V nominal, 18V min to 36V max Mine has been running off a small open

Re: [time-nuts] Thunderbolt not seeing satellites

2010-06-10 Thread Didier Juges
The TB has an error flag if there is no antenna connected (open) or if it is shorted. The tboltmon PC software reports these flags, and so does my GPSMon firmware in the fluke.l monitor. It is possible but unlikely that there would be something wrong with the bias circuit that would not be

Re: [time-nuts] Advantages Disadvantages of the TPLL Method

2010-06-13 Thread Didier Juges
Tom, I took the liberty of converting your post into an entry in my Time-Nuts Wiki: http://www.ko4bb.com/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=precision_timing:phase_frequency_m easurement_methods Please note anyone can edit this Wiki or create new pages. Didier -Original Message- From:

Re: [time-nuts] Advantages Disadvantages of the TPLL Method

2010-06-13 Thread Didier Juges
Didier On 13 June 2010 21:51, Didier Juges did...@cox.net wrote: Tom, I took the liberty of converting your post into an entry in my Time-Nuts Wiki: http://www.ko4bb.com/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=precision_timing:phase_frequ ency_m easurement_methods Just to let you know that your

[time-nuts] FW: Advantages Disadvantages of the TPLL Method

2010-06-13 Thread Didier Juges
This is a test... http://www.ko4bb.com/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=precision_timing:phase_frequency_m easurement_methods http://www.ko4bb.com/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=precision_timing:phase_frequency_ measurement_methods Didier ___ time-nuts mailing list --

Re: [time-nuts] Advantages Disadvantages of the TPLL Method

2010-06-13 Thread Didier Juges
: Re: [time-nuts] Advantages Disadvantages of the TPLL Method On 13/06/2010, Didier Juges did...@cox.net wrote: I saw that. There is nothing I can do about it other than by using a url shortener You can hint to most email clients that you'd like lines unbroken, using angle brackets

[time-nuts] FW: Advantages Disadvantages of the TPLL Method

2010-06-13 Thread Didier Juges
Testing, testing, testing... I made a registry change which should prevent Outlook from breaking the line on transmit... Didier -Original Message- From: Didier Juges [mailto:did...@cox.net] Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2010 10:08 AM To: 'Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement

[time-nuts] FW: FW: Advantages Disadvantages of the TPLL Method

2010-06-13 Thread Didier Juges
That now works here. For those using Outlook, here is the fix: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;823921Product=out2003 Didier -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Didier Juges Sent: Sunday, June 13

Re: [time-nuts] Advantages Disadvantages of the TPLLMethod

2010-06-13 Thread Didier Juges
I was using Thunderbird for a while, and the main advantages, from a practical standpoint, were the full access to the message headers, better control on formatting and better spam filtering, but since I have been using a Blackberry, I have appreciated the excellent integration of Outlook and

Re: [time-nuts] Advantages Disadvantages of the TPLL Method

2010-06-15 Thread Didier Juges
I promised myself I would not get into this any more, but here we go again... WarrenS warrensjmail-...@yahoo.com wrote: Charles posted: but the locked frequency will be different from both oscillators' free-running frequency and the EFC will not correctly indicate the test oscillator

Re: [time-nuts] 5061A Problem Child

2010-06-15 Thread Didier Juges
Joe, You probably already have a phase detector capable of receiving your 90 MHz signal: a good old broadcast FM receiver. Send the audio to the scope or spectrum analyzer and you should see your 137Hz signal. Didier Sent from my BlackBerry Wireless thingy while I do

Re: [time-nuts] Galvanic decoupling of GPS antenna

2010-06-16 Thread Didier Juges
Yuri, It is not clear to me why the antenna should be isolated from the receiver, I would prefer to keep the antenna and receiver on the same return, and isolate that assembly from the rest of the world. It is much easier to provide isolation on the supply, RS-232 and 10MHz (if you use it)

Re: [time-nuts] crystal oscillators

2010-06-21 Thread Didier Juges
I have version 8.5.3.6 (January 2007) on my web site (manual pages) that John Vig sent me some time ago, not sure if there is a more recent one... Didier www.ko4bb.com Sent from my BlackBerry Wireless thingy while I do other things... -Original Message-

Re: [time-nuts] FRS-C TTL / sine outboard filter question

2010-06-23 Thread Didier Juges
If your concern is to clean up the harmonics, a crystal ladder filter is probably not the best choice, a low pass filter would be easier to design, would probably require no adjustment and be cheaper in parts with less effect on the fundamental signal you are interested in. If your concern is

Re: [time-nuts] FRS-C TTL / sine outboard filter question

2010-06-23 Thread Didier Juges
Leigh, A narrow filter around 10MHz is likely to show phase ripple in its passband, and that will most certainly vary over temperature, not a good thing for ADEV, that's why a LPF is preferred. Also, most crystal filters may not be happy with the output level of a typical OCXO, so you would

Re: [time-nuts] FRS-C TTL / sine outboard filter question

2010-06-23 Thread Didier Juges
To: Didier Juges via Cox Subject: RE: [time-nuts] FRS-C TTL / sine outboard filter question Sent: Jun 23, 2010 8:41 PM I do not understand why the passband ripple would be of any consequence in the big (or small as we typically talk about) picture. During any measurement interval

Re: [time-nuts] EFC tracking

2010-06-26 Thread Didier Juges
Steve, You may want to check the Analog Devices MiniKit for ADuC702x-series. http://www.google.com/search?q=Analog+Devices+MiniKit+for+ADuC702x-series This kit includes a 24 bit ADC and integrated ARM processor in a small PWB with all the tools and sample code to do what you want with very

Re: [time-nuts] EFC tracking

2010-06-26 Thread Didier Juges
, but the new kit is even cheaper. Didier -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Didier Juges Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2010 10:20 AM To: 'Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement' Subject: Re: [time-nuts

Re: [time-nuts] EFC tracking

2010-06-26 Thread Didier Juges
...@febo.com Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2010 12:57:37 To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurementtime-nuts@febo.com Reply-To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] EFC tracking Didier Juges wrote: Steve, You may want

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