Re: [time-nuts] Improving ocxo temp control

2018-05-18 Thread Bill Hawkins
could be wrong. Bill Hawkins -Original Message- From: time-nuts [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Bob kb8tq Sent: Friday, May 18, 2018 9:46 PM Hi There are a number of papers out and about about the limits on OCXO performance. The bottom line is that coming up with a high

Re: [time-nuts] Anybody have suggestions for time related science fairprojects?

2018-05-10 Thread Bill Hawkins
Well, how about the frequency drift between a pendulum, a tuning fork, and a crystal. Atomic standards could be added depending on availability. Bill Hawkins -Original Message- From: time-nuts [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Hal Murray Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2018 11:56

Re: [time-nuts] Anybody have suggestions for time related science fairprojects?

2018-05-10 Thread Bill Hawkins
Um, time dilation by altitude if you have access to a mile high change. Or subjective time dilation when a person is prevented from doing a task on time. Bill Hawkins -Original Message- From: time-nuts [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Hal Murray Sent: Thursday, May 10

Re: [time-nuts] Better quartz crystals with single isotope ?

2018-04-22 Thread Bill Hawkins
times more accurate than that for 1000 grams. Hope I haven't strayed too far off topic, and wasted my time. Bill Hawkins -Original Message- From: time-nuts [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Richard (Rick) Karlquist Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2018 4:11 PM To: Discussion

Re: [time-nuts] 5062C (long shot) looking for ...

2018-04-21 Thread Bill S
I've got a couple of HP 5060-7202 extenders with 22 contacts. You're welcome to them if you think they might work. Bill_S On 4/21/2018 12:26 AM, Pete Lancashire wrote: Does not hurt to ask, looking for ... 1259-1287 adapter 05062-60127 extender 05062-60128 extender 05062-60187 extender

Re: [time-nuts] Pulsars, clocks, and time nuts (Jim Palfreyman)

2018-04-14 Thread Bill Hawkins
of hard science fiction. Bill Hawkins -Original Message- From: time-nuts [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Dana Whitlow Sent: Friday, April 13, 2018 8:39 AM To: Tom Van Baak; Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Pulsars, clocks

Re: [time-nuts] Looking for IEEE-488 codes and formats for Datum 9700AT Programmable Time System

2018-04-09 Thread Bill
I have two of these with 488 interfaces. Would appreciate any 488 info you get. br...@otelco.net -Original Message- From: Bob kb8tq Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2018 10:27 PM To: lee...@aol.com ; Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Looking for

Re: [time-nuts] TV Signals as a frequency reference

2018-04-01 Thread Bill Byrom
them slowly drift in a temperature stable environment. But the worst problem was the introduction of frame resynchronizers. This meant you were now measuring the local station frequency reference, which wasn't usually all that good. So we cancelled the color burst frequency standard project.-- Bill

[time-nuts] Leitch CSD-5300N

2018-03-24 Thread Bill Baker via time-nuts
is still supported by the National Research Council of Canada Time Service. The dial in number is 613 745-3900. Bill, W1BKR ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts

[time-nuts] Franklin Master Clock

2018-03-24 Thread Bill Baker via time-nuts
I have a relatively new Franklin Master Clock, model MP088-00A021 made in Philadelphia that just died. It's a minute master with reversing polarity. Does anyone have a schematic? The company is out of business after many years of making school clocks and no info on the web. Bill w1bkr

Re: [time-nuts] Quieting the HP-113AR Clock/Frequency Divider

2018-03-19 Thread Bill Hawkins
. All in all, another fine learning experience. Sold the 103 and 113 after a few years, and got into telephone GPS with a pair of HP Z3801A and a 16 foot plastic pipe mast for two HP conical antennas. Ended with the Lucent stuff. Inquiries for recycling Lucent stuff welcome. Bill Hawkins bill.i

Re: [time-nuts] Looking for information on True Position GPSDO.

2018-03-18 Thread Bill Byrom
/gpsdo-loss-of-satellitesfix-troubleshooting/https://github.com/pigrew/trueposctrl https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c35RCqOOulY -- Bill Byrom N5BB On Sun, Mar 18, 2018, at 9:59 AM, John Green wrote: > There is a small, about 3.5" by 4.5", GPSDO board being offered > by several>

Re: [time-nuts] Need a Watch Recommendation

2018-03-14 Thread Bill Byrom
ate osculation observations. Amateur Radio nets and phone, Skype for Business, or WebEx conference calls usually start pretty close to the scheduled time. In some cases people start wondering if the organizer is delayed after about 15 to 30 seconds.-- Bill Byrom N

Re: [time-nuts] Terrestrial GPS

2018-03-13 Thread Bill Byrom
.pdf https://spectrum.ieee.org/tech-talk/telecom/wireless/us-master-clock-keepers-test-ground-alternative-to-gps-- Bill Byrom N5BB On Tue, Mar 13, 2018, at 5:17 PM, Stewart Cobb wrote: > Peter Reilley suggests a backup to GPS using terrestrial > transmitters. This> idea has been around s

Re: [time-nuts] Recommendations for Mains Power Monitor / Logger

2018-03-11 Thread Bill Hawkins
caused by solid state power supplies and by tap changing by the power companies to match loads to minimize transmission losses. I've considered using a mechanical synchronous motor and slotted wheel to eliminate noise near the zero crossing, but now that I am 80, I don't give a darn, you see. Bill

Re: [time-nuts] Frequency deviations in Europe affect clocks

2018-03-08 Thread Bill Hawkins
that helps, Bill Hawkins -Original Message- From: time-nuts [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of David G. McGaw Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2018 11:01 PM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Frequency deviations in Europe affect clocks Can someone please explain why not paying your bills

Re: [time-nuts] Frequency deviations in Europe affect clocks

2018-03-08 Thread Bill Woodcock
tem-originating-in-serbia-kosovo-political-solution-urgently-needed-in-addition-to-technical/ -Bill signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscri

Re: [time-nuts] Need a Watch Recommendation

2018-03-05 Thread Bill Beam
.) On Mon, 5 Mar 2018 03:20:40 -0500, Don Murray via time-nuts wrote: >Hi Bill... >-  >My Rolex GMT Master was stolen back in '75, >so no luck on that. - Rolex is a bit pricey for >my needs. >-  >My Seiko CQ001M, one of the first Seiko Digitals, >was amazing. - Over the time

Re: [time-nuts] Need a Watch Recommendation

2018-03-05 Thread Bill S
form but I've heard good comments. Bill On 3/5/2018 1:38 AM, Don Murray via time-nuts wrote: Hello Time Nuts... After 6 years of no troubles, in sync with WWV any hour of the day, flawless transfer between standard and daylight time my Stauer Titanium Atomic wristwatch bite the dust

Re: [time-nuts] Need a Watch Recommendation

2018-03-04 Thread Bill Beam
o.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts >and follow the instructions there. Bill Beam NL7F ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.

Re: [time-nuts] Replacement A9 boards for the HP 5065A

2018-02-26 Thread Bill Hawkins
when it shouldn't. So I withdraw my comment about aluminum electrolytics, which was made without a timenuts perspective. Determining maximum error currents and offsets is simply a matter of mathematics, which is left as an exercise for the student. Regards, Bill Hawkins

Re: [time-nuts] Replacement A9 boards for the HP 5065A

2018-02-24 Thread Bill Hawkins
Corby A time constant is calculated from R and C. If 50 milliseconds is the correct number, R for 5 mfd is 10,000 ohms. You could use an aluminum electrolytic for the capacitor. Can you tell us where the 50 ms number came from? Regards, Bill Hawkins -Original Message- From: time

Re: [time-nuts] eBay GPS antenna test.

2018-02-13 Thread Bill Hawkins
Learned tonight that J. P. Morgan got his start by buying 25 K defective rifles for %3.50 each and selling them to the Army for $25 each. You have no reason to trust a listing. Bill Hawkins -Original Message- From: time-nuts [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Bob kb8tq Sent

Re: [time-nuts] True Time Nut Mission: NASA's Deep Space Atomic Clock (DSAC)

2018-02-09 Thread Bill Byrom
. Correcting my earlier post, the new launch date for STP-2 appears to be "no earlier than" June, 2018. I'm relying on this source for launch estimates: https://spaceflightnow.com/launch-schedule/ -- Bill Byrom N5BB On Fri, Feb 9, 2018, at 7:54 AM, jimlux wrote: > On 2/8/18 8:55 PM, Bil

Re: [time-nuts] True Time Nut Mission: NASA's Deep Space Atomic Clock (DSAC)

2018-02-08 Thread Bill Byrom
-navigation For a fun video about this project suitable for non-time-nuts, see: https://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/tdm/clock/sammy-the-second.html -- Bill Byrom N5BB On Tue, Mar 21, 2017, at 11:36 PM, Bill Byrom wrote: > NASA's Deep Space Atomic Clock test mission is moving toward a late-2

[time-nuts] Heathkit GC 1000 Most Accurate Question

2018-02-05 Thread Bill Baker via time-nuts
I own a Heathkit GC 1000 Most Accurate Clock. It's in terrific shape but not used for many years. It has stopped locking up to WWV and sometimes freezes up. Can any of our "nuts" repair it? Anyone want to buy it? Bill, w1...@aol.com ___

Re: [time-nuts] PBS, Tue evening, The Secret of Tuxedo Park

2018-01-17 Thread Bill Metzenthen
online, go here: http://video.unctv.org/video/3008204310 This is the UNC Public TV web site. Joe Gray W5JG On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 2:28 PM, Bill Tracey <b...@ewjt.com> wrote: To record OTA television I use an HDHomeRun : https://www.silicondust.com/hdhomerun/ I'll grab tonight's run o

Re: [time-nuts] PBS, Tue evening, The Secret of Tuxedo Park

2018-01-16 Thread Bill Tracey
To record OTA television I use an HDHomeRun : https://www.silicondust.com/hdhomerun/ I'll grab tonight's run of The Secret of Tuxedo Park Cheers, Bill At 09:04 AM 1/16/2018, you wrote: I can't stress enough how important Loomis was to the history of precise timekeeping in early radio

Re: [time-nuts] AM vs PM noise of signal sources

2018-01-08 Thread Bill Hawkins
Thank you, Charles. What a clever way to minimize the power dissipation in Q4 with the components of the day. A switching regulator without the steep (and noisy) transients of today's switchers. Bill Hawkins -Original Message- From: time-nuts [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com

Re: [time-nuts] AM vs PM noise of signal sources

2018-01-08 Thread Bill Hawkins
Charles, What does the unijunction 2N2646 do in the oven controller? Bill Hawkins -Original Message- From: time-nuts [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Charles Steinmetz Sent: Monday, January 08, 2018 7:50 AM Also, note that the HP schematics of the 10544 have some

Re: [time-nuts] Skilled Math Editor(s) Needed

2018-01-02 Thread Bill Hawkins
Doubleday books. I seem to have inherited some of those genes. But I can't tell a bad equation from a good one, and my French ended in High School. Happy new year to the best list on the Internet. Bill Hawkins ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com

Re: [time-nuts] Fluke/Pendulum PM6680/CNT-80 measurement instability/outliers

2017-12-14 Thread Bill Byrom
re no fast edges. (iii) If the counter voltage threshold is set to a value near the upper or lower waveform levels, it's easier to get spurious counts. Noise or spurious ingress (broken or poor quality cable shield) can cause problems. -- Bill Byrom N5BB On Thu, Dec 14, 2017, at 10:58 AM, Attila Ki

Re: [time-nuts] Test WWV timecube against Cesium, Rubidium, MASER or other precision time (UT-1) metrology

2017-12-14 Thread Bill Byrom
kHz IF amplifier signal chain, followed by an IC audio amplifier. I would think that the signal delay inside the receiver from antenna to audio output would be a couple of hundred microseconds, much less than one cycle of the demodulated audio “tick”.-- Bill Byrom N5BB On Fri, Dec 8, 2017, at 07

Re: [time-nuts] Helmholtz Resonator and other Maintained Oscillators

2017-12-09 Thread Bill Byrom
The Q of Helmholtz resonators is derived here: https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Acoustics/Flow-induced_Oscillations_of_a_Helmholtz_Resonator Some Q measurements of bottles are described here: https://math.dartmouth.edu/archive/m5f10/public_html/proj/ArainGolvach.pdf -- Bill Byrom N5BB On Sat, Dec

Re: [time-nuts] Test WWV timecube against Cesium, Rubidium, MASER or other precision time (UT-1) metrology

2017-12-07 Thread Bill Hawkins
WWV. OTOH, NTP has marvelous mathematical tricks to reduce Internet propagation delay. A scheme to reduce varying atmospheric delay would be useful, if there weren't much better ways to get a standard frequency. Bill Hawkins -Original Message- From: time-nuts [mailto:time-nuts-boun

Re: [time-nuts] Lucent RFTG-u REF0-REF1 cable

2017-11-14 Thread Bill Hawkins
. If this sounds like I know what I'm saying, you may be disappointed. Bill Hawkins -Original Message- From: time-nuts [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Tim Shoppa Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2017 9:53 PM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re

Re: [time-nuts] Fast rise time pulser

2017-10-17 Thread BIll Ezell
>Question. Rise and fall times are sub 40ps is that a typo in your email No, those are the times provided in the test report that was sent with the pulser. Modern laser diode drivers are very fast (a MAX 3930 has a spec'd risetime of  ~25 ps). -- Bill Ezell -- The day Microsoft ma

Re: [time-nuts] Fast rise time pulser

2017-10-16 Thread BIll Ezell
7.6% overshoot. Screenshot attached, don't know if it will actually make it into the post. This is exactly what I need for adjusting various of my time-related instruments. -- Bill Ezell -- The day Microsoft makes something that doesn't suck will be the day they make vacuum cleaners

Re: [time-nuts] Better GPS coming to phones

2017-09-27 Thread Bill Hawkins
Sadly, it is not the phone users who will benefit. It is the advertisers who use your location to send targeted ads. Time marches on. Bill Hawkins -Original Message- From: Mark Sims Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2017 6:54 AM Broadcom has released a phone chip that supports L5

Re: [time-nuts] Z3801A and Z38XX Issues

2017-09-10 Thread Bill Hawkins
Shouldn't that be 8 data bits? Bill Hawkins -Original Message- From: time-nuts [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Richard Solomon Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2017 4:24 PM I downloaded and installed Z38XX, configured both the Port and Device to the recommended parameters

Re: [time-nuts] Very large X9.2 solar flare.

2017-09-06 Thread Bill Byrom
http://www.arrl.org/news/space-weather-prediction-center-upgrades-geomagnetic-storm-watch-to-g3-strong -- Bill Byrom N5BB On Wed, Sep 6, 2017, at 04:19 PM, Alan Melia wrote: > The flare has been and gone!...is this another case of journalists > mixing up a flare with a CME ? > Ala

[time-nuts] Huber 1399.17.0048

2017-09-03 Thread Bill
I acquired a Huber+Suhner GPS / GSM Type 1399.17.0048 antenna at a local Hamfest. It has N connectors. Does anyone know its specs ? Bill R --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

Re: [time-nuts] GPS Antenna Feed Line Decision

2017-09-03 Thread Bill Byrom
Receivers: http://tf.boulder.nist.gov/general/pdf/1384.pdf Absolute Calibration of a Geodetic Time Transfer System: http://xenon.colorado.edu/paperIrevise2.pdf -- Bill Byrom N5BB ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https

Re: [time-nuts] GPS Antenna Feed Line Decision

2017-09-02 Thread Bill Hawkins
My HP conical antennas had N connectors, so I used 50 feet of RG-8. Z3801 receivers never had a problem. RG-8 is a sturdy cable, which may be the primary consideration for a 38 foot drop unsupported through the mast. Don't have any comparison to lighter cable, though. Bill Hawkins

Re: [time-nuts] How well does GPS work in the Arcitic?

2017-08-14 Thread Bill Beam
On Mon, 14 Aug 2017 18:19:56 -0700, jimlux wrote: >On 8/14/17 5:58 PM, Bill Beam wrote: >> GPS orbit inclination is 50-60deg. >55 degrees Current TLE show I= low of 51.7 to I= high of 56.6. >> At my latitude of 65N satellites are about 15deg above the horizon to the >

Re: [time-nuts] How well does GPS work in the Arcitic?

2017-08-14 Thread Bill Beam
pinions. I hate spam. >___ >time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com >To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts >and follow the instructions there. Bill Beam NL7F _

Re: [time-nuts] Ships fooled in GPS spoofing attack suggest Russian cyberweapon

2017-08-14 Thread Bill Byrom
This has been an area of interest to the US Air Force for many years: http://www.ainonline.com/aviation-news/aviation-international-news/2006-10-18/usaf-facility-tests-gps-jamming-vulnerability -- Bill Byrom N5BB On Mon, Aug 14, 2017, at 12:46 AM, Clint Jay wrote: > Didn't someone demonstr

Re: [time-nuts] interesting HP divider and clock on ebay

2017-08-09 Thread Bill Hawkins
declining years - not for resale. Bill Hawkins -Original Message- From: time-nuts [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Jeremy Nichols Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2017 8:12 PM Definitely spendy. Is the 115 as noisy as the 113 (similar but w/analog clock)? Wonder what *les douanes

[time-nuts] SOPHOS discussion of GPS jamming and eLoran

2017-08-07 Thread Bill Hawkins
/?utm_source=Naked+Security+-+Sophos+List _campaign=f2c7691392-naked%252Bsecurity_medium=email_term=0_ 31623bb782-f2c7691392-455148921 My apologies for the long link. You could try Googling the subject if the link is broken up by your mailer. Bill Hawkins

Re: [time-nuts] A milestone approaches

2017-07-12 Thread Bill Riches
Hi Tom I passed this along to two of my old time computer gurus - I am sure they will want to celebrate!! 73, Bill, WA2DVU Cape May -Original Message- From: time-nuts [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Tom Van Baak Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2017 8:19 AM To: Discussion

[time-nuts] A milestone approaches

2017-07-11 Thread Bill Hawkins
ut Epoch + 1.5B seconds = 07/13/17 21:40:00 % And if they haven't noticed, it might be a good time to point it out. End copy of note Some of us are impressed by long strings of zeros, so here I am, pointing it out. Bill Hawkins ___ time-nuts mailing lis

Re: [time-nuts] Anderson PowerPole (was Charles Wenzel GPSDO)

2017-06-22 Thread Bill Byrom
and power dissipation in resistors, but obviously I didn't have a practical understanding of the current handling capacity of the wire. The wire acted as a fuse before the primary circuit fuse or mains circuit breaker had a chance to trip. -- Bill Byrom N5BB - Original message - From: Chris

Re: [time-nuts] CRT for Tracor 527A

2017-06-21 Thread Bill S
Dave, I have a complete 527A with a slightly screwed up case (someone removed the handles and smoothed the edges!) that was working when I last used it about 6 years ago. The crt at the time was good and working. I had planned to put it on ebay but never got around to it. Email me off list if

[time-nuts] The clocks at Windsor Castle, UK

2017-06-15 Thread Bill Hawkins
ap seconds, either. Tried to find him, but only found a 2013 ad for a time keeper to maintain 1000 clocks in various castles. Hope that wasn't too far off topic. Bill Hawkins ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://ww

Re: [time-nuts] Powering up a long inactive 5061A

2017-06-15 Thread Bill Hawkins
have the same work to do as if the fuse had blown. If it starts bright and dims, you may be forming electrolytics. If the bulb maintains the same brightness, try a bigger bulb - or disconnect the ovens. You definitely need to read the part about running the ion pump. Bill Hawkins Disclaimer: I

Re: [time-nuts] Two pieces of old General Radio Freq. Nuts

2017-05-26 Thread Bill Byrom
Yes, the GR-874 was used on a number of Tektronix products introduced in the 1960's and 1970's. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GR_connector http://w140.com/tekwiki/wiki/GR-874_connector Both the GR-874 and APC-7 connectors are sexless, and any connector can mate with any other. -- Bill Byrom N5BB

Re: [time-nuts] Lady Heather and Lucent RFTGm-II-XO / RFTGm-II-Rb

2017-05-25 Thread Bill Hawkins
, but it is well built. Have moved to an old folks home and found other projects to keep me occupied. Make me an offer that might motivate me to pack and ship it, with the data I collected. Bill Hawkins -Original Message- From: time-nuts [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Mark

Re: [time-nuts] NOOB Q re LH

2017-05-23 Thread Bill Hawkins
with it. This is no criticism of Mark Sim's work. It tells you all you ought to know. I just have trouble assimilating it. Good luck. Bill Hawkins -Original Message- From: Frank Howell Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 4:05 PM Hi Folks, Great list...I'm learning a lot. Could I trouble you for suggested readings

Re: [time-nuts] Looking for info on Trimble 16634-10

2017-05-19 Thread Bill Hawkins
FWIW, that looks like aviation equipment (gov't or civil), with a locking connector. That stuff is designed for minimum size and weight. You might find the inside of the box quite cramped. Buying aviation parts is even more expensive than buying boat parts. Bill Hawkins -Original Message

Re: [time-nuts] Machining some aluminum help!

2017-05-18 Thread Bill Hawkins
, that is something you do not choose to reveal. Bill Hawkins ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.

Re: [time-nuts] time.gov reply from NIST

2017-05-12 Thread Bill Byrom
be easily installed on another website. If anyone knows how to do this, please let me know! I'm hoping Andrew can assist me. -- Bill Byrom N5BB - Original message - From: Jerry Hancock <je...@hanler.com> To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement <time-nuts@febo.com

Re: [time-nuts] HP10811 Oscillator Thermal Fuse

2017-05-11 Thread Bill Hawkins
Labs could have used a common gas heater for the crystal ovens, with a bit of rewiring. No fire hazard there - you've got a chimney. Also, flame safety is well developed for gas heaters. Would have required throttling gas flow control. Bill Hawkins Another possibility is circulating hot water

Re: [time-nuts] Using 5335 frequency counter for timing

2017-05-08 Thread Bill Byrom
which must be acquired in equivalent time mode to build up a waveform record. -- Bill Byrom N5BB Tektronix RF Application Engineer - Original message - From: Hal Murray <hmur...@megapathdsl.net> To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement <time-nuts@febo.com> Cc: h

[time-nuts] XL microwave model 3401

2017-04-27 Thread Bill
Hi, I am looking for a service manual for XL Microwave Model 3401 Frequency Counter. Please advise if you have one for sale or one I could dowmload. Bill Reed br...@otelco.net --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

[time-nuts] Email address change

2017-04-25 Thread Bill Riches
As you have heard Verizon is canceling their email address operation. I don't know when but it will be soon. My new email address will be bill.ric...@gmail.com <mailto:bill.ric...@gmail.com> Please correct your address book. Thank you. Bill Riches, WA2DVU dB Electronics

Re: [time-nuts] Austron/ Systrom Donner 8181 Time Code Reader

2017-04-22 Thread Bill Hawkins
the amplifying device. Sometimes that is reason the units were for sale. Hope I'm wrong. Bill Hawkins -Original Message- From: time-nuts [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Dave Wood Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2017 8:43 PM Anyone on the list own the above Time Code Readesr. I have

Re: [time-nuts] uncertainty calculations

2017-04-16 Thread Bill Byrom
known analog dither noise before an A/D, then remove that noise digitally from the result. This can improve the accuracy of systems by reducing the effect of differential nonlinearity and other system errors. -- Bill Byrom N5BB Full disclosure: I am a Tektronix Application Engineer - Original

Re: [time-nuts] uncertainty calculations

2017-04-15 Thread Bill Byrom
the system is balanced at the potential energy peak, and only random noise can push the system into a final state A or B over a significant length of time. Sorry if this is considered obvious or trivial. -- Bill Byrom N5BB - Original message - From: jimlux <jim...@earthlink.

Re: [time-nuts] TAPR TICC boxed (input protection)

2017-04-11 Thread Bill Hawkins
0 in "2001: A Space Odyssey." Bill Hawkins -Original Message- From: time-nuts [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Bob kb8tq Sent: Sunday, April 09, 2017 1:34 PM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] TAPR TICC boxed (i

Re: [time-nuts] Car Clock drift - the lowly 32kHz tuning fork crystal specs

2017-04-09 Thread Bill Hawkins
at wrist temperature and 1/3 at bedroom temperature, which varies with the seasons. Would a ceramic capacitor crafted for a certain temperature coefficient work? Can the fork have a crafted tempco? Bill Hawkins -Original Message- From: time-nuts [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf

Re: [time-nuts] Line Frequeny Stablity

2017-04-06 Thread Bill Hawkins
of minimum activity also minimized the cost of making that adjustment. Sorry, I have no recent data, but it sure feels lonely to be up at 4:30 AM. Bill Hawkins -Original Message- From: time-nuts [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Jeremy Nichols Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2017

Re: [time-nuts] Line Frequeny Stablity

2017-04-05 Thread Bill Hawkins
cycles per second. They count cycles instead of measuring the frequency. You can count cycles with a synchronous clock. This becomes less tidy when DC tie lines are used, because inverters have to be adjusted to get the correct power flow. Hope I got most of that right. Bill Hawkins

[time-nuts] CXR Larus STS 54500 Synchronus Timing System

2017-04-02 Thread Bill
. No foreign. Search CXR Larus on Ebay and you will see that this is a great price. Ebay is asking that much for one card. If no response in two weeks, I plan on putting on Ebay. If you are interested, contact me offline. I can send pictures. Bill Reed br...@otelco.net --- This email has been checked

Re: [time-nuts] Hunting dark matter with GPS data

2017-03-25 Thread Bill Hawkins
Before you go looking for flaws in space, read the comments to the sciencemag article at the link. Thomas Lee Elifritz is informative. It's amazing what you can do with math if you make a few simplifying assumptions. Bill Hawkins -Original Message- From: time-nuts [mailto:time-nuts

Re: [time-nuts] True Time Nut Mission: NASA's Deep Space Atomic Clock (DSAC)

2017-03-22 Thread Bill Byrom
mic Clock Based Radio Tracking: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/293648187_Preliminary_Investigation_of_Onboard_Orbit_Determination_using_Deep_Space_Atomic_Clock_Based_Radio_Tracking -- Bill Byrom N5BB - Original message - From: Gregory Beat <w...@icloud.com> To: time-nuts@f

Re: [time-nuts] PLL performance?

2017-03-20 Thread Bill Byrom
ike to see the histogram. Are you using phase detector 1 or 2? What are the details for your loop filter? -- Bill Byrom N5BB - Original message - From: David Scott Coburn <scot...@optonline.net> To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: [time-nuts] PLL performance? Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2017 21:07:03 -0400

Re: [time-nuts] Antique precision timing device without electronics

2017-03-17 Thread Bill Hawkins
reduce the Q, but only while the fork was touching the contacts. When the battery is switched off, amplitude would decay until the contacts were no longer touched. Then you'd get over a minute for it to stop. At least, that's how it looks to this mechanical engineer. Bill Hawkins -Original

Re: [time-nuts] Antique precision timing device without electronics

2017-03-16 Thread Bill Hawkins
for setting the weights at the end of the fork tines? Best regards, Bill Hawkins -Original Message- From: time-nuts [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Morris Odell Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2017 4:23 AM To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: [time-nuts] Antique precision timing

Re: [time-nuts] TDC-GPX2 TDC chip

2017-03-15 Thread Bill Byrom
the histogram) could easily be +/- 25 ps. There is no mention of long-term drift, since that isn't a typical use of this part. It would be interesting to put one in a simple oven and see how it drifts over a few months. -- Bill Byrom N5BB - Original message - From: Christopher Hoover

Re: [time-nuts] advice

2017-02-22 Thread Bill Byrom
× 10−16 per meter of change in height. -- Bill Byrom N5BB On Tue, Feb 21, 2017, at 11:13 AM, Rhoderick Beery wrote: > Greetings Time-Nuts! > > I'm a physics theorist interested in performing an experiment > to measure > the gravitational time dilation beneath the surface

Re: [time-nuts] advice

2017-02-22 Thread Bill Byrom
shift of about 1.1 × 10−16 > per meter of change in height. So at your laboratory depth of 1.1 km, the fractional frequency change should be about: 1.2 x 10-13 (1.2 parts in 10^13) -- Bill Byrom N5BB On Tue, Feb 21, 2017, at 11:13 AM, Rhoderick Beery wrote: > I'm a physics the

Re: [time-nuts] advice

2017-02-21 Thread Bill Hawkins
they named the town for someplace warm. Let me know if you are seriously considering this, and I will find a contact for you. Bill Hawkins -Original Message----- From: Bill Hawkins [mailto:bill.i...@pobox.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2017 8:08 PM Neutrinos? Look up the OPERA

Re: [time-nuts] advice

2017-02-21 Thread Bill Hawkins
Wisconsin but are not noticed there, AFAIK. Bill Hawkins (Resident of Minnesota, but not a physicist, just a BSME) -Original Message- From: Bob Stewart Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2017 1:48 PM Hi, Have you been in touch with Fermi-Lab?  They run a neutrino experiment with a receiver

Re: [time-nuts] HP5065A Rubidium question

2017-02-20 Thread Bill Hawkins
Well, if it was not working when you acquired it, the physics package had probably reached the end of its life. If it had been working recently and is not now, it might be repairable. Others on this list know more about repairing than I. Bill Hawkins -Original Message- From: David

Re: [time-nuts] Have done some more cutting on the Cs beam tube

2017-02-19 Thread Bill Dailey
Is it possible that the higher temp keeps the tube "cooked off?" Bill Dailey > On Feb 19, 2017, at 12:54 PM, <cdel...@juno.com> <cdel...@juno.com> wrote: > > Hi, > > The tiny coil inside the beam path is the low frequency coil used for DC >

Re: [time-nuts] Vintage Frequency Measurement

2017-02-12 Thread Bill Byrom
commonly available radio related equipment. In my opinion the BC-221 was a technically beautiful precision instrument. It was the time-nuts tool of choice for several decades! -- Bill Byrom N5BB On Sun, Feb 12, 2017, at 08:31 PM, Bob Camp wrote: > Hi > > If you look at a typic

Re: [time-nuts] Sub-ps delay line

2017-02-08 Thread Bill Byrom
a constant amplitude as the phase is shifted. Here is an example for an I/Q modulator IC which works from 5 MHz to 1.6 GHz: http://www.linear.com/product/LTC5598 -- Bill Byrom N5BB Tektronix On Wed, Feb 8, 2017, at 05:25 AM, Mattia Rizzi wrote: > Hello, > thank you all

Re: [time-nuts] Power Problems Lucent KS-24361, L101 & L102

2017-02-05 Thread Bill Hawkins
is an adventure, but it's best to check the pipermail/time-nuts archive for previous work. Good fortune on your quest for knowledge. Bill Hawkins ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman

Re: [time-nuts] Wildwood NJ ELoran

2017-02-04 Thread Bill Riches
-Original Message- From: time-nuts [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Bill Riches Sent: Friday, February 3, 2017 10:02 PM To: 'Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement' <time-nuts@febo.com> Subject: [time-nuts] Wildwood NJ ELoran Here is a dropbo

[time-nuts] Wildwood NJ ELoran

2017-02-03 Thread Bill Riches
Here is a dropbox link to Eloran from xmitter at Wildwood, NJ. I am 10 miles away and it is from my hp SA over a long average. https://www.dropbox.com/s/gxa85mz00z5l0cp/eloran%20dec%208.jpg?dl=0 73, Bill, WA2DVU Cape May -Original Message

Re: [time-nuts] eLoran test 6 Feb for almost 2 months

2017-02-03 Thread Bill Riches
100 khz. 73, Bill, WA2DVU -Original Message- From: time-nuts [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of John Marvin Sent: Friday, February 3, 2017 1:21 AM To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] eLoran test 6 Feb for almost 2 months I don't have a Loran receiver, and I

Re: [time-nuts] Thunderbolt Harmonics

2017-01-20 Thread Bill Byrom
y high quality attenuator). This is the same as saying that the VSWR (Voltage Standing Wave Ratio) is close to 1. A 40 dB return loss corresponds to a VSWR of 1.02. If an RF filter doesn't see a low VSWR load, it may not produce the desired filtering behavior. -- Bill Byrom N5BB On Thu, Jan 19, 2

Re: [time-nuts] PN/AM and 1.5Hz spur from frequency doubling?

2017-01-20 Thread Bill Byrom
survey in conjunction with the 25 MHz transmitter for safety purposes? You may have a high RF field in that area, and if the V/m is too great you will have many difficulties. -- Bill Byrom N5BB On Fri, Jan 20, 2017, at 01:21 PM, Bob Camp wrote: > Hi > > I would bet that

Re: [time-nuts] Thunderbolt Harmonics

2017-01-19 Thread Bill Byrom
. As I suggested earlier, try lowering the input level by 5 or 10 dB and see if the harmonics go down linearly. -- Bill Byrom N5BB On Tue, Jan 17, 2017, at 08:40 PM, Rhys D wrote: > Hi all, > > Before I start, let me say I'm rather a newbie at this sort of > stuff so > p

Re: [time-nuts] PN/AM and 1.5Hz spur from frequency doubling?

2017-01-19 Thread Bill Byrom
things may happen if the power supply regular isn't working properly. -- Bill Byrom N5BB > _ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts

Re: [time-nuts] Low CostTemperature sensor

2017-01-16 Thread Bill Hawkins
. Digi-key has ZNI devices as surface mount parts. Sparse data said nothing about a platinum curve. I'm curious because my former employer did very well selling platinum RTD sensors, usually 100 ohms at the triple point. Bill Hawkins -Original Message- From: time-nuts [mailto:time-nuts

Re: [time-nuts] wifi with time sync

2017-01-14 Thread Bill Hawkins
stuff. There are environments where time sync with Wi-Fi hasn't got a chance. Jim Lux was looking for a COTS solution to time sync, and this might work in a controlled environment. Don't even think about consumer radio clocks that sync from unknown Wi-Fi environments. Bill Hawkins (John Hawkins son

Re: [time-nuts] Lavoie WWV Frequency Comparator available

2017-01-07 Thread Bill Hawkins
uld know more about its capabilities. Bill Hawkins -Original Message- From: time-nuts [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Martin VE3OAT Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2017 3:40 PM To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: [time-nuts] Lavoie WWV Frequency Comparator available I have a Lav

Re: [time-nuts] Line Voltage - USA

2017-01-04 Thread Bill Byrom
at your house. :) -- Bill Byrom N5BB On Wed, Jan 4, 2017, at 06:56 PM, Bill Hawkins wrote: > Wonder if these cases could be used on social media to create enough > fear that there would be a market for AC crowbars capable of blowing > line/pole transformer HV fuses? There's a

Re: [time-nuts] Line Voltage - USA

2017-01-04 Thread Bill Hawkins
Wonder if these cases could be used on social media to create enough fear that there would be a market for AC crowbars capable of blowing line/pole transformer HV fuses? There's a few hits with Google, mostly for DC crowbars. Too bad relays are so slow. Bill Hawkins -Original Message

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