Re: [time-nuts] GPS altitude somewhat wrong?

2016-06-08 Thread Michael Perrett
I just checked Google Earth and the elevation of your office is 5260', only about 24' off of your GPS estimate if that is your location. Michael On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 1:33 PM, Van Horn, David < david.vanh...@backcountryaccess.com> wrote: > > I have just installed a Thunderbolt here to get our

Re: [time-nuts] GPS altitude somewhat wrong?

2016-06-08 Thread Michael Perrett
on the answer should be with +/- 10'. Michael Perrett On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 1:33 PM, Van Horn, David < david.vanh...@backcountryaccess.com> wrote: > > I have just installed a Thunderbolt here to get our time and frequency > equipment all on the same page. > As I was loo

Re: [time-nuts] GPS position

2016-05-02 Thread Michael Perrett
Since, I assume, you are most interested in time/frequency I recommend you use the position that each device self determined. To verify the 10 Mhz output it is easy to compare one against the other. If you don't have a frequency meter with enough digits, just use a 'scope syncing on one and see if

[time-nuts] GPS Outage

2016-02-25 Thread Michael Perrett
I think the following might be relief to all the traffic regards "bad GPS" ref January 26th. http://gpsworld.com/world-dodges-gps-bullet/ Michael / K7HIL ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to

Re: [time-nuts] Greetings from Australia

2015-06-29 Thread Michael Perrett
Alex, Brek - the Doppler effect is primarily an effect of the ionosphere moving. A 24 hour measurement of WWV on 20 Mhz shows as much as +/- 800 mHz movement, all due to Doppler. Note that if you run the measurement over several days at the same time of year the measured frequency will strongly

Re: [time-nuts] No GPS satellites

2015-02-26 Thread Michael Perrett
Since your antennas have a lot of gain I assume they are active and require a DC voltage to the LNA. Does the XL-DC provide that voltage (sometime you have to select active or passive antenna)? Michael / K7HIL On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 12:35 PM, Doug Ronald d...@dougronald.com wrote: I'm hoping

Re: [time-nuts] GPS-III

2014-07-24 Thread Michael Perrett
Chris, I disagree only with your statement as a GPS user you'd never know. As stated in one of John's references: The government is in the process of fielding three new signals designed for civilian use: L2C, L5, and L1C. The legacy civil signal, called L1 C/A or C/A at L1, will continue

Re: [time-nuts] GPS antenna length correction

2014-04-28 Thread Michael Perrett
The ability to correct the position depends on the receiver. Some receivers have a correction known as the lever arm correction. This is the vector difference between the antenna centroid and there is also a variable to enter the cable length. Between these two corrections the receiver time and

Re: [time-nuts] GPS antenna length correction

2014-04-28 Thread Michael Perrett
As one responsible for the architecture and design of many military vehicle GPS based navigation systems I will un-simplify my previous email. The GPS solution (position or Doppler) is always made at the center of the GPS antenna; that's where the lines of intersection (3D) from the individual

Re: [time-nuts] new GPSDO kit

2014-04-04 Thread Michael Perrett
If you are going to plug the unit re time nuts, how about a price break for said group? Michael On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 3:39 PM, saidj...@aol.com wrote: Hello everyone, sorry for the plug, but we just announced a new $568 complete GPSDO reference kit. This unit is a tiny desktop unit with

Re: [time-nuts] NIST Launches a New U.S. Time Standard: NIST-F2 Atomic Clock

2014-04-03 Thread Michael Perrett
Wow, if 1 second in 300 million years is correct, that's around 1 E-16th. M On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 2:51 PM, Edesio Costa e Silva time-n...@tardis.net.br wrote: Full story at http://www.nist.gov/pml/div688/nist-f2-atomic-clock-040314.cfm Edésio

Re: [time-nuts] Looking for WWVB digital wall clock with digital 24 hour UTC display

2014-02-19 Thread Michael Perrett
I recently bought a La Crosse, See at ebay item 360752857574, that quickly synced up to WWVB and, at least to my ability to mark a time tick, been within the second of WWV. Total cost was $43. Michael / K7HIL On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 4:52 PM, Richard (Rick) Karlquist rich...@karlquist.com wrote:

Re: [time-nuts] New Acquisition: HP-53132A

2014-02-01 Thread Michael Perrett
According to the manual (in several places): *It is normal operation for the fan in the Counter to continue to run after the Counter is* *placed in Standby mode. Power to the timebase is continuous to maintain long term* *measurement reliability, and the fan helps maintain timebase temperature

Re: [time-nuts] L1/L2 GPS Receiver

2014-01-17 Thread Michael Perrett
Magnus, I believe that he is referencing the the new L2 C/A code, which is not protected. Reference http://www.gps.gov/systems/gps/modernization/civilsignals/ Michael / K7HIL On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 2:04 PM, Magnus Danielson mag...@rubidium.dyndns.org wrote: On 16/01/14 20:29, Hal Murray

Re: [time-nuts] L1/L2 GPS Receiver

2014-01-17 Thread Michael Perrett
/l2c/ On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 10:11 AM, Jim Lux jim...@earthlink.net wrote: On 1/17/14 8:43 AM, Michael Perrett wrote: Magnus, I believe that he is referencing the the new L2 C/A code, which is not protected. Reference http://www.gps.gov/systems/gps/modernization/civilsignals/ Is the L2c

Re: [time-nuts] WAAS.....

2014-01-07 Thread Michael Perrett
It is the receiver, not the satellites, that are WASS enabled. The WASS differentials are used to correct the ionosphere path lengths. Michael K7HIL- Sent from my Samsung S4 On Jan 7, 2014 6:07 PM, Bob Camp li...@rtty.us wrote: Hi The WAAS sat’s are (in general) going to be long path sat’s.

Re: [time-nuts] GPS Spoofing

2013-07-27 Thread Michael Perrett
I have seen a lot of differing opinions on GPS Spoofing and using back up systems on this thread. Most pretty good, but a couple off the mark a bit. Here are a couple of comments on GPS Spoofing. - There are anti-spoofing GPS receivers available - to authorized users. Typically DOD. Most,

Re: [time-nuts] Relationship between fixes and time duration?

2013-05-05 Thread Michael Perrett
There are multiple variables that effect the minimum number of fixes that will yield a particular position accuracy (and hence a time accuracy when using that position as truth). (1) The ability of the antenna to see the entire sky. If a mountain, tall building or tree is between you and a

Re: [time-nuts] Introducing myself

2012-12-02 Thread Michael Perrett
Welcome aboard. Michel / K7HIL On Sun, Dec 2, 2012 at 1:06 PM, Erich Heine sophac...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everyone. I just wanted to introduce myself to the list. My name is Erich Heine, I'm a researcher at the University of Illinois. I am a programmer attached to a couple of projects, but

Re: [time-nuts] How to start a new topic

2012-11-02 Thread Michael Perrett
*UNLESS *the subject changes. I get so sick of the title having nothing to do with the message. Sometimes a thread will completely change and have 20 or more answers. Personally I would prefer a new thread if the subject changes. IMHO, Michael / K7HIL On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 7:20 AM, David C.

Re: [time-nuts] GPS Jammer

2012-10-02 Thread Michael Perrett
John, Coherent reproduction of the spread PRN standard positioning signal (SPS) signal gives ~30dB of A/J protection, the GPS signal level, as received at the GPS receiver is on the order of -160 dBW (L1-CA). If the jammer outputs half a Watt, and is anywhere nearby, the receiver will not maintain

Re: [time-nuts] GPSDO Component Selection

2012-09-10 Thread Michael Perrett
First - I realize 95% of the folks reading this are well aware of what I am going to say. No matter how good your equipment (receiver/antenna) is, the short term accuracy of GPS time is defined in *GLOBAL POSITIONING SYSTEM STANDARD POSITIONING SERVICE PERFORMANCE STANDARD (2008)*. This document

Re: [time-nuts] Is this a cesium frequency standard?

2012-08-23 Thread Michael Perrett
I have found Google translate does a pretty good job on translating manuals - and it is free Michael On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 6:40 AM, Richard Parrish calc...@swbell.net wrote: The seller of the 'Russian' equipment said that the CCHB-74 frequency standard is a rubidium unit. Manual is in

Re: [time-nuts] question about Thunderbolt geo acuracy

2012-05-10 Thread Michael Perrett
Not for survey type accuracy (sub-meter, short measurement time). The average (over a 48 hour period) was pretty good (about 1.5 meters, RMS), but the reading over any 1 minute period can be off as much as 3-5 meters, satellite geometry dependent. I Have two units with good antennas, mounted

Re: [time-nuts] Loran transmitters back on the air

2012-03-02 Thread Michael Perrett
Loran C absolute accuracy is between 0.1 and 0.25 miles ( http://msi.nga.mil/MSISiteContent/StaticFiles/NAV_PUBS/APN/Chapt-12.pdf) but the repeatability is way better (from 60 to 300 feet, same ref). When it was safe and fun to fly to Baja, Mexico I would record both ends of the runway with my

Re: [time-nuts] OT: GPS satellite spectrum displayed...

2011-12-22 Thread Michael Perrett
At least that is how the graphic is labeled :). Per Enge (Author/Contributor of many GPS text books) has some good cartoons on the current and future GPS Spectrum, and one power spectrum display, on:

Re: [time-nuts] Raven Industries GPS in-line L1 Amplifier

2011-11-06 Thread Michael Perrett
Just be careful on overloading the front end of a GPS receiver. A typical (what ever that is anymore) GPS receiver has about a maximum of a 15 dB power bandwidth. If overloading occurs (minor), it might swamp the strong signals. If you already have an active antenna the extra 12 dB of the in-line

Re: [time-nuts] Averaging Location for Position Hold

2011-09-14 Thread Michael Perrett
When GPS was first developed (Late 70's) the DATUM used was the World Geodetic System, 1972 (WGS-72). The next release was indeed in 1984 (WGS-84). The early GPS receivers had over 200 datums stored in permanent memory. In its most basic form a datum defines the center of the earth and the

Re: [time-nuts] Averaging Location for Position Hold

2011-09-14 Thread Michael Perrett
by navigators to indicate vertical direction, an example of this is when using the north, east, down (NED) references in an inertial reference frame. Michael On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 2:59 PM, Magnus Danielson mag...@rubidium.dyndns.org wrote: Michael, On 14/09/11 17:05, Michael Perrett wrote

Re: [time-nuts] Lady Heather help, please

2011-09-13 Thread Michael Perrett
First: Find the directory where LH resides (mine is D:\Program Files (x86)\Heather). Click the Windows start icon In the search windw type command Click on the command prompt. Change to the LH directory (I am using mine, you will have to find your own location). enter- D: (return)This

Re: [time-nuts] Win 7 and Thunderbolt

2011-05-15 Thread Michael Perrett
I went a different route - I bought a multiport serial card (PCIE RS232C) and have a dedicated, unique, serial port for the Tbolt. I put it on COM 15, which did not even exist prior to the addition and have had no conflicts since. Just added /15 to the .exe command line. PC: Home made I7-875 CPU

Re: [time-nuts] USB and Mouse conflict persists

2011-05-11 Thread Michael Perrett
Stan; I had the same problem. The correct fix (i.e. permanent) is to buy a RS232C plug-in board for your PC. This allows the port choice to remain fixed. With the USB to serial adapter the port can change every time you reboot the computer. I purchased a board with 8 db9 connector 'dongles', this