Re: [time-nuts] The Problem with Time Timezones - Computerphile

2014-05-08 Thread Robert Darlington
I had to deal with this problem about 15 years ago while writing time synchronization software for the Win32 platform (95, 98, NT, etc). It was a nightmare until I realized I could just look and see what the timezone offset was set to for the whole computer. After that it was trivial. I let

Re: [time-nuts] Measuring the accurcy of a wrist watch

2014-04-19 Thread Robert Darlington
Industry doesn't use microphones. It's piezo pickups or inductive pickups (coils) for things like tuning fork movements in accutrons. For quartz they use probes. http://forums.watchuseek.com/f6/watch-timing-microphone-646148.html On Sat, Apr 19, 2014 at 11:12 AM, Chris Albertson

Re: [time-nuts] Measuring the accurcy of a wrist watch

2014-04-18 Thread Robert Darlington
Commercially they use piezo transducers (bender disks) in direct contact with the watch to hear them tick. I did my best to build one up several weeks ago. I could hear ants walking but my cheap swiss movement was just too quiet. It was amazingly quiet, even going through a preamp and dialing

Re: [time-nuts] Jammer Redux

2014-01-18 Thread Robert Darlington
Hopefully. Lasers are not toys. The energy densities are enormous and they can and do blind people. -Bob On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 9:19 PM, Perry Sandeen sandee...@yahoo.com wrote: Will owner permits be coming in the future? Regards, Perrier

Re: [time-nuts] ThunderBolt Display

2013-08-15 Thread Robert Darlington
Yes, but not for technical reasons. I'm opting to build my own for the $15 in parts. Not quite free, but at the same time this isn't new to me and it won't take long and I'll probably learn a little. -Bob On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 11:22 AM, Eric Garner garn...@gmail.com wrote: Is anyone else

Re: [time-nuts] OT Prototype Boards

2013-06-25 Thread Robert Darlington
Machinists know that 1 inch is exactly 2.54cm or 25.4mm. It's a definition, not a coincidence. -Bob On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 10:17 AM, Bob Stewart b...@evoria.net wrote: Hi Hal, I had always used 25.4001 or .03937 to do my conversions. So, I looked online and found the .039370078 and did

Re: [time-nuts] Grinding crystals...

2013-06-21 Thread Robert Darlington
I used to produce ultrasound transducers using a very similar method. I'd continuously monitor the resonant frequency with a network analyzer as I'd lay down gold/silver/whatever with an evaporator cup from both sides. My chamber has a shutter to cover the transducers (I think it has 12 or 15

Re: [time-nuts] display on sale

2013-05-29 Thread Robert Darlington
Their local distributer (Vic Meyers Associates) just emailed me back with a quote. $99 a pop for the Symmetricom analog displays/clocks. They are out of digital time displays. I hear that Symmetricom is getting out of the time display business. The guy said they're still going to keep their

Re: [time-nuts] display on sale

2013-05-29 Thread Robert Darlington
AM, Robert Darlington rdarling...@gmail.com wrote: Their local distributer (Vic Meyers Associates) just emailed me back with a quote. $99 a pop for the Symmetricom analog displays/clocks. They are out of digital time displays. I hear that Symmetricom is getting out of the time

Re: [time-nuts] NTP Clock suggestions?

2013-05-29 Thread Robert Darlington
In another thread that was active today, the Symmetricom NTP clocks were mentioned. I bought two today for $99 a pop, both power over ethernet models, but they have a line powered model too. One 12 hour face and one 24 hour face. On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 12:13 PM, Eric Williams wd6...@gmail.com

Re: [time-nuts] S743 Marketplace Fariness Act

2013-04-24 Thread Robert Darlington
On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 1:04 AM, DaveH i...@blackmountainforge.com wrote: If I walked into Parts Express's corporate headquarters in Ohio and purchased some stuff, I could show my WA State drivers license and be exempt from the Ohio sales tax. Why is this any different from an online

Re: [time-nuts] OT: eBay Contact Congress

2013-04-23 Thread Robert Darlington
They're legit, I think it's important to collect sales or gross receipts tax on orders as normal, and see no reason why there should be an exemption for Internet sales, nor any reason why we're discussing it on this mailing list! -Bob On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 8:22 AM, J. Forster j...@quikus.com

Re: [time-nuts] Connectors

2013-04-11 Thread Robert Darlington
They're half decent 75 ohm connectors out to about a GHz if you do that. On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 10:10 AM, steve gunsel st...@sgteq.com wrote: Hi, Not too long ago there was an interesting discussion here about RF connectors. I have always wondered about the F connector - used by the

Re: [time-nuts] Interesting looking crystal on ebay

2013-03-11 Thread Robert Darlington
I ended up buying this as I've wanted one for a while. It arrived today and I swept it with the network analyzer. At whatever temperature my shop was at the time I took the measurement, it had a sharp insertion loss at 10.000233MHz. Pretty cool. I can post plots if there is any interest or

Re: [time-nuts] Don't use cheap cables -- a cautionary tale

2013-03-03 Thread Robert Darlington
Alligator clips, of course. -Bob On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 11:50 AM, Henk ten Pierick h...@deriesp.demon.nlwrote: Hi, The use of double shielded cables does raise the question to what type of connectors to use? Regards, Henk Op 3 mrt. 2013 om 17:30 heeft Jim Lux jim...@earthlink.net

Re: [time-nuts] Advise on HP-5335a features

2013-02-27 Thread Robert Darlington
These are nice counters, but they're slow. My 5335A takes ~ 6 seconds to do a full resolution measurement. -Bob On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 11:09 AM, Paul Berger phb@gmail.com wrote: I am considering getting a counter with better resolution than my 5316A, and have been looking at 5335A,

Re: [time-nuts] Nifty MINI TIC for DMTD

2013-02-08 Thread Robert Darlington
On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 12:34 PM, Don Latham d...@montana.com wrote: Actually, yes. I also have two USB microscopes, and even some rohs solder and stuff. I just find it's easier to find thru hole stuff when it falls on the floor. Everything wants to go to the lowest potential energy... Don

Re: [time-nuts] Nifty MINI TIC for DMTD

2013-02-07 Thread Robert Darlington
On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 4:02 PM, Don Latham d...@montana.com wrote: through hole forever :-) Don of the old hands and blurred vision :-) ewkehren I grew out of thru-hole about 10 years ago. My nearly 40 year old eyes have trouble reading the numbers on 0603 parts for the past few years,

Re: [time-nuts] Smart fiber-optic cable ( a reference to Hp's smart clock )

2013-02-04 Thread Robert Darlington
My gut feeling is that it's pretty easy to measure propagation delay over fiber, especially if it's long. Is there some reason you can't just bounce light off the far end of the cable and measure round trip time? I don't know the electronics involved in signaling with fiber but surely you could

Re: [time-nuts] FTS oscillator sale

2013-01-25 Thread Robert Darlington
Instead of making us dig for it, could you provide an item number? -Bob On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 4:41 PM, cdel...@juno.com wrote: Hi, I put up an FTS 1000A/100 oscillator on the eBay. Stability day in the PIX. Corby ___ time-nuts mailing list

Re: [time-nuts] Brooks Shera

2012-12-21 Thread Robert Darlington
Ditto on that. I'm up in Los Alamos. Getting into computers is my specialty. -Bob On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 7:29 AM, Kevin Rosenberg ke...@rosenberg.netwrote: If needed, I can provide some local help. Karen's address is a short drive from my home. Kevin On Dec 21, 2012, at 7:15 AM, paul

[time-nuts] Interesting crossover between time-nuttery and caving

2012-11-12 Thread Robert Darlington
This came across my inbox from a caving mailing list and found it to be pretty interesting and time-nuts related: http://www.mediadesk.uzh.ch/articles/2012/mit-atomuhren-das-erdinnere-vermessen_en.html ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To

Re: [time-nuts] multi time zone display for wall mounting?

2012-10-09 Thread Robert Darlington
I like the Symmetricom ND-4, however I don't know if you can have it alternate between TZs. You can buy more than one and label them like I did. http://www.symmetricom.com/products/gps-solutions/time-code-displays/Network-Time-Displays/ They can get NTP server and timezone through DHCP options,

Re: [time-nuts] SMT Probing Stuff

2012-09-29 Thread Robert Darlington
On Sat, Sep 29, 2012 at 7:39 PM, gary li...@lazygranch.com wrote: I've only used 3M clips, so I can't say who makes the best clip. http://www.hmcelectronics.com/product/3M/923650-08 There is a gold plated version too. 923655-08 Pomona might be OK I use Pamona chip clips (at least that's

Re: [time-nuts] SMT Probing Stuff

2012-09-29 Thread Robert Darlington
This is the one. Sorry for not taking the time to send this in the previous email: http://www.mcmelectronics.com/product/POMONA-5514-/201-075 -Bob On Sat, Sep 29, 2012 at 9:35 PM, Robert Darlington rdarling...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Sep 29, 2012 at 7:39 PM, gary li...@lazygranch.com wrote

Re: [time-nuts] New wrist Watch

2012-09-09 Thread Robert Darlington
Just do a Google image search for analog atomic watch. Pick the one you like. There are several in the $50-$60 price range that are attractive. Many are solar so there are no batteries to replace. They're all set by WWVB nightly (usually) so they're well within a second of accuracy. -Bob On

Re: [time-nuts] RE; New Wrist watch

2012-09-09 Thread Robert Darlington
The waveceptor's are okay but I can't wear mine much because I tend to cross timezones a lot. The hands only run in one direction so when going to the west, it has to spin 11 hours forward. This takes 20 minutes. I guess it's one way to kill time on an airplane. -Bob On Sun, Sep 9, 2012 at

Re: [time-nuts] Recommendations for a newbie?

2012-09-07 Thread Robert Darlington
You want to start with a GPSDO. I like the Trimble Thunderbolt. The price is right and they're readily available. I have no experience with the HP units but they seem to be highly regarded. Rb oscillators are great for some things, but need to be calibrated. That's where the GPSDO comes in.

Re: [time-nuts] Trimble T Lassen 2 - suitable antenna....advice.....questions

2012-08-19 Thread Robert Darlington
It's a pain to capture on any scope, but really easy to see with an LED across the output. it's not bright, but definitely easy to see on my tbolt. -Bob On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 10:11 AM, Stephen Farthing squir...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Guys, I have a couple of Trimble T Lassen 2 boards I bought

Re: [time-nuts] Water Proof Vent

2012-05-16 Thread Robert Darlington
Take a look at porous PTFE products like POREX. High gas permeability, low liquid permeability. -Bob On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 11:43 AM, Lee Mushel herbe...@centurytel.net wrote: Well, remember that Tyvek is not a vapor barrier---that's what makes it so useful but if you're going to  use it I

Re: [time-nuts] PICTIC II ready-made?

2012-04-25 Thread Robert Darlington
If you guys go the PIC route, I'm always happy to burn them for the group for cheap. I think in the past I was doing 5 bucks for the first one (including delivery) plus $2.50 for each additional. I still have a ton of those plastic chip tubes for mailing them so the pins don't get bent. -Bob

[time-nuts] parking lot location

2012-04-20 Thread Robert Darlington
Ur car is in row n spot 14e at airport parking. Gave keys to driver Tom c. They're in envelope at front. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the

Re: [time-nuts] parking lot location

2012-04-20 Thread Robert Darlington
Oh gosh. Sorry guys. I have a nickname of me for when I want to email myself. Sometimes it matches on the first two letters of measurement and matches this list.This is the first time (that I know of) that I didn't catch it. -Bob On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 4:10 PM, J. Forster j...@quikus.com

Re: [time-nuts] Chinese Scopes

2012-04-17 Thread Robert Darlington
I need lots of memory on scopes. A buddy of mine I worked with in the ultrasound world actually yelled at the Tek product management and asked if they actually *use* oscilloscopes. The answer was a sheepish no, and yet they felt qualified to develop the products for the company. The cheap

Re: [time-nuts] Schematic capture, anyone?

2012-02-23 Thread Robert Darlington
Eagle all the way. It's free and the documentation is good enough to get you by. There is a huge hobbiest following as well if you get stuck. Definitely read the tutorial on creating parts. It'll be nearly impossible to wing. The free version has some limits. 80mmx100mm boards, 2 layers, and

Re: [time-nuts] How best to exchange Large files?

2012-02-21 Thread Robert Darlington
Typically you can resume ftp transfers with the reget command. It has to be implemented on the server. There are tons of file sharing services on the web that are free. Why go back to the 1980s? -Bob On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 3:21 PM, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R c...@omen.com wrote: I use

Re: [time-nuts] 5370A on ebay

2012-01-17 Thread Robert Darlington
I gotta remember the time-nuts list when I put stuff on ebay. One mention here and the price goes up and up and up and up to a point where I can't afford it anymore. -Bob On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 1:43 PM, Bob Bownes bow...@gmail.com wrote: if anyone is looking for a 5370, there is one on ebay

[time-nuts] OT: proposed new calendar

2012-01-02 Thread Robert Darlington
Thought this was interesting. http://www.universetoday.com/92306/new-year-new-calendar-but-johns-hopkins-scholars-say-we-need-a-permanent-edition/ ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to

Re: [time-nuts] eBay Giveaway Vectron OCXOs

2011-12-22 Thread Robert Darlington
I'm getting a signal out with 3.3vDC in. I haven't tried to test this higher. -Bob On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 9:25 PM, Dan Rae dan...@verizon.net wrote: Does anyone have any data on the Vectron OCO500-18 OCXOs that were being bundled with the Rb units on eBay? Operating voltage for example? I

Re: [time-nuts] Another Trimble Thunderbolt-like GPS?

2011-12-19 Thread Robert Darlington
It looks like he laid out paper to use as a background and the PCB is just under the edge of one sheet. -Bob On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 1:49 PM, aartmol...@comcast.net wrote: I think the PCB cut off at ebay # 300628220912 is an image artifact. If you look carefully you'll see the cut extend into

[time-nuts] OT: PICTIC II parts list from Mouser Electronics (updated)

2011-12-19 Thread Robert Darlington
Hi guys, I know there has been recent talk about this and it got me back into building my PICTIC II boards. I went through the parts list and created a new copy that includes everything except U6, the 74AC175 chip that is out of production. Part ID numbers (C16, R8, etc) are listed as well.

Re: [time-nuts] metric / English

2011-12-18 Thread Robert Darlington
Up till three or so years ago the VLA (Very Large Array radio telescope) was using a PDP 11/70. Most of the workstations were Sun Ultra 1 systems that were horribly outdated to a point where I had already sent mine to land fill a few years before. Now they have a spiffy Linux cluster on modern

Re: [time-nuts] Best way to...?

2011-12-14 Thread Robert Darlington
I didn't feel like digging for an allen key so I just drilled from the back side of the board. I didn't go all the way through. It was just enough to remove the nut or anchor that was attached to the PCB. It took about 1 minute. -Bob On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 2:48 PM, Don Latham

Re: [time-nuts] Ebay FE-5680A Rb

2011-12-14 Thread Robert Darlington
On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 4:34 PM, Rex r...@sonic.net wrote: I don't think the strange oscillator is part of the Rb board. That's correct. The OCXO is a brand new part that is thrown in and has nothing to do with the board the Rb is on. Same for the DE-9 connector. I can use the connector

Re: [time-nuts] filtering a 10Mhz frequency standard?

2011-12-13 Thread Robert Darlington
I just ordered the parts for this filter from Mouser Electronics. ~ $30 plus shipping including a shiny new Pomona box. qty 2 542-78F1R0-RC RF Inductors 1.0uH 10% @ $0.18 ea qty 2 140-50S5-271J-RC Ceramic Disc Capacitors 50V 270pF SL 5% Tol @ $0.14 ea qty 1 140-50S5-471J-RC Ceramic Disc

Re: [time-nuts] PC time app

2011-11-25 Thread Robert Darlington
I have a copy and I like it, however you can just set your system scheduler to update your clock more often. Win 7 is 1x a week out of the box but it's easy enough to set to once every 15 minutes if you want. It's also free.

Re: [time-nuts] Clocking a PIC16F628A from a Rubidium Standard

2011-11-24 Thread Robert Darlington
I've done this but don't remember the detail on the wiring. The data sheet made it clear though. One thing I did notice is that the oscillator seemed to power the chip! If I were doing it again I'd probably use some kind of powered buffer on the oscillator input so that when I power down the

Re: [time-nuts] SDR GPS

2011-11-24 Thread Robert Darlington
If you want altitude and speed, I recommend the Lassen IQ. ~$25 USD receiver. Good to 18000 meters (59k feet) and 500m/s (1118 MPH). You can exceed any ONE of these specs, but not both. Not really useful for timenuttery though but used often in high altitude balloons. -Bob On Thu, Nov 24,

Re: [time-nuts] HP 10638A Degauser(s) available

2011-11-16 Thread Robert Darlington
The manual says Model 10638A Degausser is used with any HP 5061A Cesium Beam Standard which has Option 004 High Performance Tube installed. Degaussing is needed to obtain optimum performance from the Option 004 Beam Tube.

Re: [time-nuts] Subject: Listening to the List Owner

2011-09-21 Thread Robert Darlington
I'm not replying to anybody in particular, just hit the reply key on the last email. Guys, this is rather off topic, dontchathink? Get over it. Whining won't change how I post, but perhaps asking nicely might. -Bob On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 12:05 PM, Don Latham d...@montana.com wrote: What he

Re: [time-nuts] Google NTP Servers and smearing leap seconds...

2011-09-17 Thread Robert Darlington
Careful, my particle physicists run RedHat. To be honest, I never heard of Scientific Linux. Looking into it, I see it's a custom distro put together by CERN. -Bob D (Los Alamos National Lab) On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 2:41 AM, gary li...@lazygranch.com wrote: Interesting story, though I

Re: [time-nuts] National Geodetic Survey Bench Mark

2011-09-14 Thread Robert Darlington
It is a hobby called benchmarking. Check it out over at geocaching.org. I've tracked down several that hadn't been seen in many decades, updated Uncle Sam with current coordinates (hand held gps so they can find them and then survey it at high precision later if they want to). -Bob On Wed, Sep

Re: [time-nuts] Panel Mount Frequency Counter

2011-07-15 Thread Robert Darlington
The problem is if you use your Rb as a reference for the counter. It will always read 10MHz. If you don't use it, something will drift. I opted to just panel mount an LED to indicate lock. -Bob On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 1:57 PM, Richard W. Solomon w1...@earthlink.netwrote: That was quick,

Re: [time-nuts] Am I the only Time Nut who doesn't wear a watch?

2011-07-09 Thread Robert Darlington
Okay guys, I saw a very strange timepiece when I was out shopping. If it wasn't $17k I'd consider it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PwJCzetTCI Interesting concept, looks good. On a side note, earlier today a friend gave me an Accutron 214 from 1965 that previously belonged to his father.

Re: [time-nuts] General questions on 8510C network analyzers

2011-07-04 Thread Robert Darlington
I love my 8712ES, it's a great little (4U) unit but only goes up to 1.3GHz.It does have a 10MHz ref in port on the back which is also handy. -Bob On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 4:23 PM, Jose Camara camar...@quantacorp.com wrote: Javier: I'll be listing on eBay later today or tomorrow a

[time-nuts] David Partridge's frequency divider board custom chassis

2011-06-16 Thread Robert Darlington
Hi guys, I built a nice little chassis for David's divider board and documented it a bit. If interested, please have a look here: http://www.nerdhouse.org/projects/frequency_divider Have fun, Bob, N3XKB ___ time-nuts mailing list --

Re: [time-nuts] low-loss cable

2011-06-13 Thread Robert Darlington
Hi Dick, See page 27 of this document (as numbered at the bottom of the page, or PDF page 29): http://trl.trimble.com/docushare/dsweb/Get/Document-388613/ThunderboltE_UG_1B.pdf The Trimble Bullet antenna for the TBolt has 28dB gain and they recommend RG-59 coax. Brooke's page (

Re: [time-nuts] Does TB keep almanac data ?

2011-06-13 Thread Robert Darlington
EEPROM's do have a finite number of write cycles to any particular memory location, but it's about 100,000 or more. That's 11 years worth if written to once an hour round the clock (the same location in memory, that is). This is probably not the issue. I personally never noticed but then again,

Re: [time-nuts] Advice on NTP server needed

2011-06-13 Thread Robert Darlington
I've done this recently and have bought several Symmetricom GPS time servers (S200, S350, etc). I've also built the net4501 up as a time server and do not recommend it. Mine was extremely flaky and I couldn't trust it to stay up unless it was on very clean power (big UPS) and even then it

Re: [time-nuts] locate 6 digit digital clock

2011-06-07 Thread Robert Darlington
Holy Jeebus!That 2nd URL has the first picture I ever saw on your site that gives you a bigger version when you click it. Every other one I saw will just give a copy of the exact same picture upon clicking.I should give up now while I'm ahead! That being said, I really like these retro

Re: [time-nuts] smallest rubidium

2011-05-24 Thread Robert Darlington
What's an Ultra 27? -Bob On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 11:47 AM, Dr. David Kirkby david.kir...@onetel.netwrote: On 05/24/11 06:51 AM, Said Jackson wrote: How about a GPSDO in 1 x 1 x 0.5 inch footprint? Check out the new MtronPTI M9107 and M9107 GPSDOs. Check out the press release about these

Re: [time-nuts] smallest rubidium

2011-05-24 Thread Robert Darlington
I actually asked in jest, thinking there was no such beast and that it was a typo. I'm an old Sun guy, apparently too old to know about the new stuff. Looks like an expensive PC. On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 9:33 PM, Dr. David Kirkby david.kir...@onetel.netwrote: On 05/25/11 03:29 AM, Robert

Re: [time-nuts] What are these towers?

2011-05-21 Thread Robert Darlington
Guys, I gotta ask, what does this have to do with time keeping? Am I missing something? -Bob On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 9:59 PM, w...@aol.com wrote: So here are some URL's to explain the pattern for KNTH... If you will note, there are two Texas stations that KNTH is protecting, since they

Re: [time-nuts] USB and Mouse conflict persists

2011-05-11 Thread Robert Darlington
That's not a conflict. Windows thinks the tbolt is a mouse. Go into device manager and delete the serial mouse or disable it. -Bob On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 7:23 AM, Stan, W1LE stanw...@verizon.net wrote: Hello David, The symptoms include: eratic mouse cursor that stabilizes (corrects)

Re: [time-nuts] 60hz disciplined watch (really?)

2011-04-21 Thread Robert Darlington
Ouch, $3k! My $50 watch that talks to WWVB does just as good a job when measuring it with my eye. -Bob On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 11:01 PM, Raj vu2...@gmail.com wrote: This looks good! http://www.ablogtoread.com/citizen-satellite-eco-drive-watch-gets-time-from-space/ At 21-04-2011, you

Re: [time-nuts] Selecting a used HP sweep/frequency generator

2011-04-14 Thread Robert Darlington
The 3325 has an option for high voltage output from DC to 1MHz (up to 40 volts peak to peak at 40mA) with option 2 which can be handy sometimes. Also, I remember the 3325B has an upgraded attenuator stack to improve reliability as compared to the 3325A like I have.Can anybody chime in on

Re: [time-nuts] My latest Net4501 NTP Server

2011-02-23 Thread Robert Darlington
of the card. -Bob On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 9:12 AM, Joe S. Borovetz wa5...@tapr.org wrote: On 10/30/2010 11:58 PM, Robert Darlington wrote: I finally got around to asking this question..I have been working on my 4501 timeserver for the past year. Bought the parts a year ago...finally put things

Re: [time-nuts] My latest Net4501 NTP Server

2011-02-23 Thread Robert Darlington
I tested it before posting and it did work for me. I'm no longer setup for doing this again though. Your CF card should be able to boot (at least partially) in your PC assuming you're using a IDE - CF adapter like I had. Try burning the image again. If it still doesn't work and if another

Re: [time-nuts] Enclosure for Thunderbolt

2011-02-22 Thread Robert Darlington
I've dealt with par-metal.com in the past. Extremely high quality, great prices, lead times that annoy me. I needed a 4U enclosure overnighted. They laughed at me. I ended up buying a Budd enclosure from Newark. They seem like a mom and pop shop that will do custom work including painting and

Re: [time-nuts] Paging a couple of people

2011-02-06 Thread Robert Darlington
to hit the reply key before mailing the whole list about our business dealings, m'kay? -Bob On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 5:13 AM, David C. Partridge david.partri...@perdrix.co.uk wrote: Please could Hadley Allhands, and Robert Darlington please check their mail (including spam folders) for mail from

Re: [time-nuts] Check out my photos on Facebook

2011-02-04 Thread Robert Darlington
Hi guys, With all respect (as much as I can muster on a Friday night that I'm sitting at home instead of having fun), can we push the SNR ratio in the right direction? Thanks, Bob ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to

[time-nuts] FRS-C Rb Oscillator questions

2011-01-29 Thread Robert Darlington
Hi guys, Today I received a shiny new (to me anyway) FRS-C Rb from one of the usual sellers in China. It locked after roughly 2 minutes. Comparing it to my Thunderbolt I saw that it was running at a very slightly different rate. I adjusted the c-field pot and made it slightly better but I ran

Re: [time-nuts] RS XSRM Rubidium

2011-01-21 Thread Robert Darlington
I bought one just yesterday on eBay for $58 USD shipped from China to replace one I broke. I did some surgery to change the behavior of the lock lamp (I wanted it to light when locked, not when unlocked). A week later I went to document what I did for the list members and walked across the

[time-nuts] GPS tests by the DoD

2011-01-20 Thread Robert Darlington
Did you guys see this one yet? http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/20/faa-warns-of-ongoing-gps-issues-in-southeastern-us-due-to-defens/ ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to

Re: [time-nuts] CS reservoir depletion

2011-01-13 Thread Robert Darlington
Lead is slightly radioactive. Presumably the person building the device would either source the right isotope or just use an existing vapor container from an old unit. Of course if it was totally scratch built, I'd still just buy the right isotope. -Bob On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 4:18 PM, Rick

Re: [time-nuts] Oscillator Packaging

2011-01-07 Thread Robert Darlington
And for those of us that really hate being teased into doing a google search when it's just as easy to paste the link, here's the link: http://www.qsl.net/kh6grt/page4/freqstd/freqstd.htm Here's the main page where the above frequency standard is listed:

Re: [time-nuts] LCD display connector

2011-01-04 Thread Robert Darlington
Denatured alcohol is available at Home Depot in the States and most hardware stores. Also, what you say about the 50/50 mix of isopro and water is exactly why I tend to reach for the 70% stuff first. It dissolves the bulk of the gunk including the stuff not soluble in alcohol but that is soluble

Re: [time-nuts] Form factor

2011-01-03 Thread Robert Darlington
I particularly like the Box Enclosures brand extruded aluminum boxes. The series 2 and series 3 enclosures take 100mm wide Eurocard boards perfectly. They are very easy to machine if you want D holes for BNC connectors, etc. They're also extremely high quality and cheap! Newark sells them and I

[time-nuts] Pretty good video on quartz watches

2010-12-28 Thread Robert Darlington
Hi guys, I randomly stumbled upon this video on the Make website: http://blog.makezine.com/archive/2010/12/how_a_quartz_watch_works.html There is a good amount of detail presented and I enjoyed the short video quite a bit. Hope you do too. -Bob ___

Re: [time-nuts] Us Time Nuts and... Wrist Watches.

2010-12-26 Thread Robert Darlington
Right now my favorite watch is a $13.99 U.S. Time military style watch that was made in China. I replaced the band with one that I like better so I guess maybe it's worth $14.99 now. It keeps pretty good time (better than Harrison's clocks but that's not really hard with a quartz oscillator),

[time-nuts] free: Astron 2000C LORAN receiver

2010-12-22 Thread Robert Darlington
Hi guys, I live in New Mexico which means my LORAN receiver is pretty much a boat anchor. This is what the thing looks like: http://www.recycledgoods.com/products/Austron-2000C-Loran-C-Precision-Time-and-Frequency-Receiver.html I'm offering it to anybody in the continental USA that can make use

Re: [time-nuts] free: Astron 2000C LORAN receiver

2010-12-22 Thread Robert Darlington
Ah, good point. I believe this is the case too.I have a taker now and am waiting to hear back (I pointed this out to him). -Bob On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 9:44 AM, Poul-Henning Kamp p...@phk.freebsd.dkwrote: In message aanlktikquulvwrggbug1-=bwcqrchknjrrzeg_8wh...@mail.gmail.com, Robe rt

Re: [time-nuts] free: Astron 2000C LORAN receiver

2010-12-22 Thread Robert Darlington
]on Behalf Of Robert Darlington Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2010 11:33 AM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: [time-nuts] free: Astron 2000C LORAN receiver Hi guys, I live in New Mexico which means my LORAN receiver is pretty much a boat anchor. This is what

Re: [time-nuts] Fwd: Re: Frequency counter recommendation

2010-12-20 Thread Robert Darlington
I don't believe anybody is speaking to perceived value as much as historical market cost at various times over the years. I paid $200 for my 5370B last year and it's in superb condition and well inside factory specs. There is no way I'd sell it though. My guess is Bob C and most of us perceive

Re: [time-nuts] RADAR

2010-12-20 Thread Robert Darlington
Not only that, but by stamping them out you could go from producing one every other week or so to 1000 a day. -Bob On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 5:07 PM, J. Forster j...@quik.com wrote: Correxct, I believe. There is a little known story about the cavity magnetron: The one Tizzard brought over

Re: [time-nuts] Isolated input oscilloscopes

2010-12-11 Thread Robert Darlington
Any particular bandwidth requirement? Storage or computer interface? Analog? Digital? What's your price range? On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 6:25 PM, Mark Sims hol...@hotmail.com wrote: A little off topic, but needed for a time-nutty application: 4 channel scope with isolated inputs that is

Re: [time-nuts] reference oscillator input circuit

2010-12-08 Thread Robert Darlington
Just an FYI guys, I'm pretty sure the 3rd circuit down on the Wenzel page is identical to the input circuit for the TAPR TADD-2 frequency divider. The TADD-2 adds a transformer and load resistor. Schematic is in the manual here: http://www.tapr.org/~n8ur/TADD-2_Manual.pdf -Bob On Wed, Dec 8,

Re: [time-nuts] Linux timekeeping / jiffy source

2010-12-02 Thread Robert Darlington
Are you running ntp, and if so, did you kill the old drift file? On Dec 2, 2010 8:18 PM, Mike S mi...@flatsurface.com wrote: Anyone familiar with Linux kernel timekeeping? I've recently upgraded a server to an AMD 890FX/SB850 based motherboard. After doing so, I observed a large (in time-nut

Re: [time-nuts] OT: NTP server questions

2010-11-30 Thread Robert Darlington
need to do? What precision is required and how many clients will you be serving. For most normal uses you don't need a special purpose server system. A $600 notebook PC and any GPS unit with a serial connection and a copy of Linux or BSD. On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 11:36 AM, Robert Darlington

Re: [time-nuts] OT: NTP server questions

2010-11-30 Thread Robert Darlington
with Meinberg. Several versions to choose from, reliable, and priced well. Rob Kimberley -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Robert Darlington Sent: 30 November 2010 2:47 PM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency

Re: [time-nuts] OT: NTP server questions

2010-11-30 Thread Robert Darlington
Er, rather, add 7 hours. You get the idea. On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 6:10 PM, Robert Darlington rdarling...@gmail.comwrote: Hi Greg (and everyone!) The environment will be dusty and hot and cold and hot and cold... There will be air conditioning but probably not much in the way of filtering

Re: [time-nuts] OT: NTP server questions

2010-11-30 Thread Robert Darlington
That's exactly what we've done in the past (setting it when on the network and letting the clock do what it wants) and that's fine. The actual time isn't as important as the agreement on what time it is. This is certainly the cheaper way to go and is becoming a viable option. I agree about the

Re: [time-nuts] OT: NTP server questions

2010-11-30 Thread Robert Darlington
That won't work in my application. I can't run anything on any server but one I provide specifically for time, which is why I'm looking at dedicated time servers. Believe me when I say this crossed my mind and was crossed off the list. Just about every system is MS Windows based which means

Re: [time-nuts] OT: NTP server questions

2010-11-30 Thread Robert Darlington
There are sometimes delays up to 30 minutes or so due to processing of sensor data till it makes it into my system which is also way out in the field. Imagine a shipping pallet full of equipment that gets air dropped into the middle of nowhere. That IS my network, and it has no connection to

[time-nuts] OT: NTP server questions

2010-11-29 Thread Robert Darlington
Hi guys, I'm looking to buy an NTP server for a field deployable server system. I currently have a Symmetricom SyncServer S250 which does more than I need. I am considering buying an S200 (same as the S250 but without the ability to connect to an external frequency standard). My gut feeling is

Re: [time-nuts] Thunderbolt Lady Heather 48 hour precision survey

2010-11-26 Thread Robert Darlington
this thing to be better than it was out of the box! -Bob On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 12:41 PM, Dave hartzell hartz...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 6:41 AM, Robert Darlington rdarling...@gmail.com wrote: I keep it in a styrofoam beer cooler surrounded with bottled water in a draft free

Re: [time-nuts] Plastic covered OCXOs

2010-11-25 Thread Robert Darlington
Got a URL handy? I'm interested in looking at a data sheet or two but couldn't find anything with Google. -Bob On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 4:33 PM, Murray Greenman murray.green...@rakon.comwrote: I could tell you but... There's a lot of interesting IP in these little guys! Regards, Murray

Re: [time-nuts] Why .30 cal holes can't be seen at 800 yds...

2010-11-04 Thread Robert Darlington
Be careful about giving legal advice. These are not legal where I live. Making explosives in any quantity is legal at a federal level in all 50 states without any kind of license but those darn states and cities make laws to restrict that. Mixing tannerite turns it into a federally, state, and

Re: [time-nuts] A real world project need for timing accuracy...

2010-11-02 Thread Robert Darlington
Hi Jim, This doesnt' look right to me. I'm getting roughly 2.3 inches at 2400 feet is 0.08 miliradians.0.01 miliradians (1*10^-5 radians) at 2400 feet is 0.288 inches (roughly 30 caliber). Wikipedia says that to resolve 0.01 miliradians you need: R (in radians) = lambda / diameter (of

Re: [time-nuts] A little quick advice, please

2010-10-31 Thread Robert Darlington
Hi Alan, My $200 Tek 7854 mainframe with the 7S11/7T11 combo take my old scope up high enough to look at 13-14GHz repetitive signals. I don't think it can take a screen shot or do much if any analysis with these plugins though but they're still handy for a lot of things. I love the digital

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