Re: [time-nuts] Time nut newbie

2013-05-01 Thread Hal Murray
li...@lazygranch.com said: A bit OT, but back in the day there was what amounted to an X-prize for a real accurate chronometer for navigation. Make that way back in the day. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Harrison There is a good book out on that topic: Longitude by Dava Sobel

Re: [time-nuts] Time nut newbie

2013-05-01 Thread Chris Albertson
On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 7:40 PM, Jim Palfreyman jim77...@gmail.com wrote: Buy a cheap rubidium off ebay and use it to drive a micro-controller and write some clock software. That was exactly my solution but I'm waiting ti hear about his size, power and cost budget. If this has to run on

Re: [time-nuts] Time nut newbie

2013-05-01 Thread Attila Kinali
On Tue, 30 Apr 2013 13:49:43 -0400 Tim Bastiann7...@yahoo.com wrote: I'm a time nut newbie. My obsession started with the search for an accurate chronometer to carry on my boat for celestial navigation. Yes there still are a few of us left that practice the art. My current project is a

Re: [time-nuts] Time nut newbie

2013-05-01 Thread Bob Camp
Hi It was tired old eyes and tiny numbers on the calculator ….That plus to much distraction to double check things. Bob On Apr 30, 2013, at 9:57 PM, Rex r...@sonic.net wrote: It doesn't affect the general magnitude conclusions by Bruce, but as long as we are making corrections, my

Re: [time-nuts] Time nut newbie

2013-05-01 Thread Mark Spencer
.     Best regardsMark S     Message: 7 Date: Wed, 1 May 2013 09:45:06 +0200 From: Attila Kinali att...@kinali.ch To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement     time-nuts@febo.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Time nut newbie Message-ID: 20130501094506.966146722efbbaf9c80e5...@kinali.ch

[time-nuts] Time nut newbie

2013-04-30 Thread Tim Bastian
Hi all, I'm a time nut newbie. My obsession started with the search for an accurate chronometer to carry on my boat for celestial navigation. Yes there still are a few of us left that practice the art. My current project is a quartz chronometer using a DS32Khz tcxo oscillator and two

Re: [time-nuts] Time nut newbie

2013-04-30 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
Hi Tim -- Welcome! The easiest way to search the time-nuts list is to use Google and add the site:febo.com tag -- that will bring up hits in the list archive (as well as anything on my web site that might be pertinent). John On 4/30/2013 1:49 PM, Tim Bastian wrote: Hi all, I'm a

Re: [time-nuts] Time nut newbie

2013-04-30 Thread Hal Murray
n7...@yahoo.com said: My current project is a quartz chronometer using a DS32Khz tcxo oscillator and two 74HC4060s (+ or- 10 seconds / year).  How do you get 10 seconds per year? The data sheet says 1 minute per year. -- These are my opinions. I hate spam.

Re: [time-nuts] Time nut newbie

2013-04-30 Thread Bob Camp
...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Tim Bastian Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2013 1:50 PM To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: [time-nuts] Time nut newbie Hi all, I'm a time nut newbie. My obsession started with the search for an accurate chronometer to carry on my boat for celestial navigation. Yes there still are a few

Re: [time-nuts] Time nut newbie

2013-04-30 Thread Chris Albertson
For my next project I'm looking at an Abricon Part Number AOCJY2-10.000MHZ ocxo 5 ppb running through a pic and using the algorithm posted on http://www.romanblack.com/one_sec.htm. I'm shooting for + or - 1 seconds / year. Do you have some power or size limitation? If not you can do a

Re: [time-nuts] Time nut newbie

2013-04-30 Thread Bruce Griffiths
Subject: [time-nuts] Time nut newbie Hi all, I'm a time nut newbie. My obsession started with the search for an accurate chronometer to carry on my boat for celestial navigation. Yes there still are a few of us left that practice the art. My current project is a quartz chronometer using a DS32Khz tcxo

Re: [time-nuts] Time nut newbie

2013-04-30 Thread Bob Camp
: [time-nuts] Time nut newbie 12 days is 1024800 s ie just over 1 million seconds so a frequency offset of 0.1ppm results in a time error of ~ 0.1s not 1s. 1sec error would occur in just under 116 days, Bruce Bob Camp wrote: Hi If you take a look down in the fine print on the OCXO spec

Re: [time-nuts] Time nut newbie

2013-04-30 Thread Brooke Clarke
Hi Tim: You might look into the DS3232 which can be combined with a PIC to control the aging rate register. http://www.maximintegrated.com/datasheet/index.mvp/id/4984 Have Fun, Brooke Clarke http://www.PRC68.com http://www.end2partygovernment.com/2012Issues.html Tim Bastian wrote: Hi all,

Re: [time-nuts] Time nut newbie

2013-04-30 Thread lists
...@yahoo.com Sender: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2013 13:49:43 To: time-nuts@febo.com Reply-To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com Subject: [time-nuts] Time nut newbie Hi all, I'm a time nut newbie. My obsession started with the search

Re: [time-nuts] Time nut newbie

2013-04-30 Thread Jim Lux
On 4/30/13 4:18 PM, li...@lazygranch.com wrote: A bit OT, but back in the day there was what amounted to an X-prize for a real accurate chronometer for navigation. Make that way back in the day. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Harrison And he had a heck of a time collecting. I suspect

Re: [time-nuts] Time nut newbie

2013-04-30 Thread Rex
It doesn't affect the general magnitude conclusions by Bruce, but as long as we are making corrections, my calculator seems to think 60 * 60 * 24 * 12 = 1036800 seconds in 12 days, not 1024800. That does come out to 115.7 days for 1 sec error. Maybe the 12-day number was a typo? -Rex On

Re: [time-nuts] Time nut newbie

2013-04-30 Thread Jim Palfreyman
Buy a cheap rubidium off ebay and use it to drive a micro-controller and write some clock software. On 1 May 2013 11:57, Rex r...@sonic.net wrote: It doesn't affect the general magnitude conclusions by Bruce, but as long as we are making corrections, my calculator seems to think 60 * 60 * 24