Re: [time-nuts] End of the World, or beginning of a new one?

2015-07-04 Thread olivier - heol design
Michael A. Waldron lists@... writes: Olivier from Heol says that it will revert to 1995 again in a few months, although he was unspecific as to the exact reasons he said they simulated it in their lab. I've decided I'd like to upgrade the GPS in my 2100-rb, but it will probably be a

Re: [time-nuts] End of the World, or beginning of a new one?

2015-07-04 Thread Tom Van Baak
this problem. /tvb - Original Message - From: Björn b...@lysator.liu.se To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Saturday, July 04, 2015 1:30 PM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] End of the World, or beginning of a new one? Yes the Tymserve and other similar DATUM

Re: [time-nuts] End of the World, or beginning of a new one?

2015-07-04 Thread Björn
Yes the Tymserve and other similar DATUM / Symmetricom products which  use the Trimble ACE board will fail again in 2016. This is due to the  way the GPS epoch is calculated inside the 2100 : the DATUM engineers  estimated the future leap second insertions to determine GPS epochs,  which was not a

Re: [time-nuts] End of the World, or beginning of a new one?

2015-07-03 Thread Michael A. Waldron
Olivier from Heol says that it will revert to 1995 again in a few months, although he was unspecific as to the exact reasons he said they simulated it in their lab. I've decided I'd like to upgrade the GPS in my 2100-rb, but it will probably be a little while before I get the job done. -Mike

Re: [time-nuts] End Of The World

2015-07-02 Thread Martin Burnicki
Bob Camp wrote: Well it sounds like there are (so far) no major reports of extreme behavior. There still seem to be *lots* of reports of systems that do not handle things gracefully. I wonder if the data above is specific to a chip set (which it probably is) or to how Glonass handles leap

Re: [time-nuts] End Of The World

2015-07-02 Thread Martin Burnicki
Frister wrote: My NTP server did a double 59 on the terminal. for anybody who is interested I captured the event : https://youtu.be/OpNci29CI7E I think you need to be careful if you just watch the time in a loop with a sleep 1. Due to slightly varying sleep intervals the time when the date

Re: [time-nuts] End Of The World

2015-07-02 Thread Frister
Thank you Martin, To be honest, I didn't know that the sleep command could be utilized with a 1 Foolish of me to not have tried it. On 02/07/2015, Martin Burnicki martin.burni...@burnicki.net wrote: Frister wrote: My NTP server did a double 59 on the terminal. for anybody who is interested

Re: [time-nuts] End Of The World

2015-07-02 Thread David Malone
On Thu, Jul 02, 2015 at 04:47:02PM +, Frister wrote: To be honest, I didn't know that the sleep command could be utilized with a 1 Foolish of me to not have tried it. It's an extension, as sleep used to only work with integer numbers of seconds, e.g.

[time-nuts] End of the World, or beginning of a new one?

2015-07-02 Thread Bob Martin
As I look at my Tymserve 2100 sitting in the rack to my left, the date it's displaying is JUL 02 2015. So the week rollover bug was coupled to the leap second? No wine to drink today (it's still early)... Anyone else with a TS2100 that's suddenly acting strange, er, correct for the first time

Re: [time-nuts] End Of The World

2015-07-01 Thread Mike Cook
Le 1 juil. 2015 à 09:02, Hal Murray hmur...@megapathdsl.net a écrit : michael.c...@sfr.fr said: Lady Heather just went told me 23:59:59 , 00:00:00 and stayed there for 2 secs, No 23:59:60 :-( What sort of device was it looking at? a T-Bolt. Firmware 3.0 GPS 10.2 .Mfg. 2002. Leap

Re: [time-nuts] End Of The World

2015-07-01 Thread Frister
My NTP server did a double 59 on the terminal. for anybody who is interested I captured the event : https://youtu.be/OpNci29CI7E I did measure an odd behaviour on leapsecond day from time-a.nist.gov NTP server usually it runs about 8 mS behind my local PPS but all the sudden went to +22 mS for

Re: [time-nuts] End Of The World

2015-07-01 Thread Hal Murray
michael.c...@sfr.fr said: Lady Heather just went told me 23:59:59 , 00:00:00 and stayed there for 2 secs, No 23:59:60 :-( What sort of device was it looking at? -- These are my opinions. I hate spam. ___ time-nuts mailing list --

Re: [time-nuts] End Of The World

2015-07-01 Thread Ben
At home I recorded the following seconds: Tunderbolt GPSDO 58 59 60 00 01 02 Meinberg LANTIME M200 58 59 59 00 01 02 hopf DCF 7001 58 59 60 01 02 03 Conrad DCF Time Terminal 58 59 00 01 02 03 The (old 1999) DCF hopf clock in particular was a strange one. It announced

Re: [time-nuts] End Of The World

2015-07-01 Thread Hal Murray
time-nuts@febo.com said: As expected, on the leap second the display on the 8183 showed 6:59:60 (the 8183-A showed 23:59:60), but the TV400 displayed 7:00:00 at that moment. The TV400 remained one second ahead until it displayed 7:00:03 for a two-second period, then from 7:00:04 forward it

Re: [time-nuts] End Of The World

2015-07-01 Thread Martin Burnicki
Bob Camp schrieb: Hi So are we all still here? Any portion of the group blasted into non-existance by the leap second please speak up :) === Any observations of anomalous behavior yet? From a NVD8C-CSM v3.1 module in Glonass-only mode: $GPZDA,235958.00,30,06,2015,00,00*65

Re: [time-nuts] End Of The World

2015-07-01 Thread Hal Murray
t...@leapsecond.com said: Am I reading this right -- those GPS receivers applied the leap second 16 seconds before they were supposed to, resulting in a double 23:59:44 instead of 23:59:59 and 23:59:60? So not only did they use GPS instead of UTC but the opted for the double second instead of

Re: [time-nuts] End Of The World

2015-07-01 Thread Tom Van Baak
second. /tvb - Original Message - From: Hal Murray hmur...@megapathdsl.net To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com Cc: hmur...@megapathdsl.net Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 8:38 PM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] End Of The World Any observations of anomalous

Re: [time-nuts] End Of The World

2015-07-01 Thread Bob Camp
Hi On Jul 1, 2015, at 6:25 AM, Martin Burnicki martin.burni...@burnicki.net wrote: Bob Camp schrieb: Hi So are we all still here? Any portion of the group blasted into non-existance by the leap second please speak up :) === Any observations of anomalous behavior yet? From a

Re: [time-nuts] End Of The World

2015-07-01 Thread John Lofgren
As expected, on the leap second the display on the 8183 showed 6:59:60 (the 8183-A showed 23:59:60), but the TV400 displayed 7:00:00 at that moment. The TV400 remained one second ahead until it displayed 7:00:03 for a two- second period, then from 7:00:04 forward it was properly synced. On

Re: [time-nuts] End Of The World

2015-07-01 Thread David via time-nuts
Camp Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 8:04 PM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: [time-nuts] End Of The World Hi So are we all still here? Any portion of the group blasted into non-existance by the leap second please speak up :) === Any observations of anomalous

Re: [time-nuts] End Of The World

2015-07-01 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 1:03 AM, Bob Camp kb...@n1k.org wrote: Hi So are we all still here? Any portion of the group blasted into non-existance by the leap second please speak up :) === Any observations of anomalous behavior yet? I was eagerly connecting to various things to watch for

[time-nuts] End Of The World

2015-07-01 Thread Mike Cook
Lady Heather just went told me 23:59:59 , 00:00:00 and stayed there for 2 secs, No 23:59:60 :-( Le 1 juil. 2015 à 03:03, Bob Camp kb...@n1k.org a écrit : Hi So are we all still here? Any portion of the group blasted into non-existance by the leap second please speak up :) === Any

Re: [time-nuts] End Of The World

2015-07-01 Thread Daniel Schultz
--- Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2015 21:03:30 -0400 From: Bob Camp kb...@n1k.org To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com Subject: [time-nuts] End Of The World Message-ID: 66d6b7a9-aa39-4d5d-8a34-dd5f78488...@n1k.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi So

Re: [time-nuts] End Of The World

2015-07-01 Thread Magnus Danielson
Hi, Some of us have found ourselves in Besancon this week for the EFTS, which is extraordinary but not strange. I found myself explaining Delta and Omega counter responses with hockey-puck ADEV responces on the whiteboard for the lab-session. Cheers, Magnus On 07/01/2015 03:03 AM, Bob

Re: [time-nuts] End Of The World

2015-07-01 Thread Sean Gallagher
. HAPPY LEAP EVENT EVERYONE!! Respectfully, Sean Gallagher Malware Analyst 571-340-3475 -- Original Message -- From: Bob Camp kb...@n1k.org To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com Sent: 6/30/2015 9:03:30 PM Subject: [time-nuts] End Of The World Hi So

[time-nuts] End Of The World

2015-06-30 Thread Bob Camp
Hi So are we all still here? Any portion of the group blasted into non-existance by the leap second please speak up :) === Any observations of anomalous behavior yet? Bob ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to

Re: [time-nuts] End Of The World

2015-06-30 Thread Hal Murray
Any observations of anomalous behavior yet? From a BU-353: 57203 86380.750 $GPRMC,235940.000,A,3726.0893,N,12212.2627,W,0.52,64.49,300615 ,,*20 57203 86381.748 $GPRMC,235941.000,A,3726.0889,N,12212.2627,W,0.45,78.54,300615 ,,*2D 57203 86383.138