Re: [time-nuts] HP-5065a advise and purchase decision

2012-07-03 Thread Ron Ward
[mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Bob Camp Sent: Monday, July 02, 2012 12:48 PM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] HP-5065a advise and purchase decision Hi Yes, I have poked at the early ones (1980's). They are the only thing I have seen

Re: [time-nuts] HP-5065a advise and purchase decision

2012-07-03 Thread Magnus Danielson
On 07/03/2012 09:02 AM, Ron Ward wrote: Hi, I am new here. Are the Rubidium cell AND Rubidium Lamp still available either from HP/Agilant or another source? I am thinking of buying a HP-5065A and it would be nice if these critical parts were still available! They are not the parts that fails

Re: [time-nuts] HP-5065a advise and purchase decision

2012-07-03 Thread Bob Camp
, Ron -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Bob Camp Sent: Monday, July 02, 2012 12:48 PM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] HP-5065a advise and purchase decision Hi Yes

Re: [time-nuts] HP-5065a advise and purchase decision

2012-07-03 Thread Ron Ward
Hi: Okay, thanks for the information. Ron -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Magnus Danielson Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2012 1:12 AM To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] HP-5065a advise and purchase decision On 07

Re: [time-nuts] HP-5065a advise and purchase decision

2012-07-03 Thread Ron Ward
available! Thanks, Ron -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Bob Camp Sent: Monday, July 02, 2012 12:48 PM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] HP-5065a advise and purchase

Re: [time-nuts] HP-5065a advise and purchase decision

2012-07-02 Thread Jim Lux
On 7/1/12 2:43 PM, b...@lysator.liu.se wrote: Tom, Chris, The HP 5065A is one of the best Rb ever made. /tvb (iPhone4) Have you or any other list member had the opportunity to take measurements on the ElmerPerkin/EGG Space rubidiums (in a lab environment)?

Re: [time-nuts] HP-5065a advise and purchase decision

2012-07-02 Thread David J Taylor
-Original Message- From: Jim Lux Sent: Monday, July 02, 2012 2:02 PM [] http://www.excelitas.com/Downloads/DTS_Frequency_Standards_RAFS.pdf -- are those the ones in GPS satellites? (for instance?) = Jim, The Galileo satellites

Re: [time-nuts] HP-5065a advise and purchase decision

2012-07-02 Thread Bob Camp
Hi Yes, I have poked at the early ones (1980's). They are the only thing I have seen that will beat the HP 5065. There is also a lot of published data on them. Bob On Jul 1, 2012, at 5:43 PM, b...@lysator.liu.se wrote: Tom, Chris, The HP 5065A is one of the best Rb ever made. /tvb

Re: [time-nuts] HP-5065a advise and purchase decision

2012-07-01 Thread Chris Albertson
What is it you need? Do you really need an HP-5065 r to do jet need a good 10MHz standard? What is the intended use/ On Sat, Jun 30, 2012 at 2:19 PM, J. L. Trantham jlt...@att.net wrote: Edgardo, I would think something in the $500 range for a working unit would be worth considering,

Re: [time-nuts] HP-5065a advise and purchase decision

2012-07-01 Thread Edgardo Molina
Dear Chris, One of my needs: A dependable Rb source. HP appeals to me as most of my electronics lab equipment comes from that house. I have seen numerous other Rb sources here and there but would like to afford an HP unit. I know I can go to the party driving either a 60's VW beattle or

Re: [time-nuts] HP-5065a advise and purchase decision

2012-07-01 Thread Chris Albertson
On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 8:39 AM, Edgardo Molina xe1...@amsat.org wrote: Dear Chris, One of my needs: A dependable Rb source. HP appeals to me as most of my electronics lab equipment comes from that house. I have seen numerous other Rb sources here and there but would like to afford an HP

Re: [time-nuts] HP-5065a advise and purchase decision

2012-07-01 Thread Tom Van Baak (lab)
Chris, The HP 5065A is one of the best Rb ever made. /tvb (iPhone4) On Jul 1, 2012, at 21:12, Chris Albertson albertson.ch...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 8:39 AM, Edgardo Molina xe1...@amsat.org wrote: Dear Chris, One of my needs: A dependable Rb source. HP appeals to me as

Re: [time-nuts] HP-5065a advise and purchase decision

2012-07-01 Thread John Miles
Shhh, I was hoping he'd succeed in his apparent attempt to drive 5065A prices down, so I can round up a few more for myself! $78 is a great price for an LPRO-101, certainly, but you can't compare them to the HP rubidiums. The latter's specs (as well as its secs) are vastly better.

Re: [time-nuts] HP-5065a advise and purchase decision

2012-07-01 Thread bg
Tom, Chris, The HP 5065A is one of the best Rb ever made. /tvb (iPhone4) Have you or any other list member had the opportunity to take measurements on the ElmerPerkin/EGG Space rubidiums (in a lab environment)? http://www.excelitas.com/Downloads/DTS_Frequency_Standards_RAFS.pdf --

Re: [time-nuts] HP-5065a advise and purchase decision

2012-07-01 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
John Miles said the following on 07/01/2012 05:18 PM: The real problem with the 5065A is that it represents the end of the line for most noncommercial users. There are no further upgrade possibilities for taus out to several hours -- not even the best commercial cesium standards -- until you

Re: [time-nuts] HP-5065a advise and purchase decision

2012-07-01 Thread Edgardo Molina
Dear John, Totally agree with your point of view. Thank you for the links. Information quite impressive and interesting. Bringing one HP5065a back from death... It reminds me about the times I restored my wristwatches to mint condition, even though they looked like what the cat brought

Re: [time-nuts] HP-5065a advise and purchase decision

2012-07-01 Thread Edgardo Molina
Dear Chris, Thanks for the advise. It is always nice to have different opinions and points of view. I have heard about the dependability of Efratom products while doing my research homework. An Rb oscillator like that surely could be a good bet considering your vision of the plural

[time-nuts] HP-5065a advise and purchase decision

2012-06-30 Thread Edgardo Molina
Dear Group, Good morning. I wish you well. This is my first post to the Time-Nuts group. Please be gentle with the newbie ;) I have been offered an HP 5065a Rubidium Frequency Standard recently in what I feel, a bad operational condition. I need a reliable rubidium standard for my

Re: [time-nuts] HP-5065a advise and purchase decision

2012-06-30 Thread Chris Albertson
Have you checked the price of comparable units in eBay. Many of us bought some quite usable Rb oscillators for $40 each but I think the price might be up to $60 by now. On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 11:27 PM, Edgardo Molina xe1...@amsat.org wrote: Dear Group, Good morning. I wish you well. This is

Re: [time-nuts] HP-5065a advise and purchase decision

2012-06-30 Thread Don Latham
Edgardo: For the asking price, you can do a LOT better than this Hp. There will be more opinions from more knowledgeable time-nuts regarding your choices, I would consider them carefully. Again, you do not need to spend anything like $1k US to get what you need. Don Edgardo Molina Dear Group,

Re: [time-nuts] HP-5065a advise and purchase decision

2012-06-30 Thread Magnus Danielson
Edgardo, On 06/30/2012 08:27 AM, Edgardo Molina wrote: Dear Group, Good morning. I wish you well. This is my first post to the Time-Nuts group. Please be gentle with the newbie ;) I have been offered an HP 5065a Rubidium Frequency Standard recently in what I feel, a bad operational condition.

Re: [time-nuts] HP-5065a advise and purchase decision

2012-06-30 Thread J. L. Trantham
1:27 AM To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: [time-nuts] HP-5065a advise and purchase decision Dear Group, Good morning. I wish you well. This is my first post to the Time-Nuts group. Please be gentle with the newbie ;) I have been offered an HP 5065a Rubidium Frequency Standard recently in what

Re: [time-nuts] HP-5065a advise and purchase decision

2012-06-30 Thread Edgardo Molina
Dear Chris, Thank you for your advise. Yes I have seen the Ebay units below a hundred dollars. I have been attracted by those units, but I have been unable to find a USA seller. Most of them are being offered by chinese ebayers. I haven't ordered anything from China through Ebay yet. Still

Re: [time-nuts] HP-5065a advise and purchase decision

2012-06-30 Thread Edgardo Molina
Dear Don, Good morning. Like probably many others, owning or collecting nice pieces of equipment probably drove me to consider an HP unit, instead of wisely doing some research on more specific and technically feasible options. The search is only beginning. Your advise is welcome. Thank

Re: [time-nuts] HP-5065a advise and purchase decision

2012-06-30 Thread Said Jackson
hi Edgardo, The best one in that price range is probably the PRS-10 from SRS. New it's about $1500, sometimes they go used for $500 if you can find one they are very desirable. Can be locked to an external GPS, a huge plus. Their tube is designed for 20+ years lifetime. Has excellent ADEV and

Re: [time-nuts] HP-5065a advise and purchase decision

2012-06-30 Thread Edgardo Molina
Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Edgardo Molina Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2012 1:27 AM To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: [time-nuts] HP-5065a advise and purchase decision Dear Group, Good morning. I wish you well. This is my first post

Re: [time-nuts] HP-5065a advise and purchase decision

2012-06-30 Thread Edgardo Molina
Dear Said, Thank you for your advise on a complete time and frequency package. I haven't heard of those models yet. I will look after your recommendation and certainly will let you know if something shows before even considering a purchase. GPS synch is a big plus as you mention. I

Re: [time-nuts] HP-5065a advise and purchase decision

2012-06-30 Thread Magnus Danielson
On 06/30/2012 06:27 PM, Edgardo Molina wrote: Dear Said, Thank you for your advise on a complete time and frequency package. I haven't heard of those models yet. I will look after your recommendation and certainly will let you know if something shows before even considering a purchase. GPS

Re: [time-nuts] HP-5065a advise and purchase decision

2012-06-30 Thread J. L. Trantham
for these if needed. Hope this helps. Joe -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Edgardo Molina Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2012 1:27 AM To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: [time-nuts] HP-5065a advise and purchase decision Dear

Re: [time-nuts] HP-5065a advise and purchase decision

2012-06-30 Thread John Miles
Edgardo, I would think something in the $500 range for a working unit would be worth considering, depending on options, condition, etc. Anything lower would be better. More depending how 'addicted' you might be to these. Just to have it on record, anyone who is having trouble unloading a